DayZ needs more guns

[Bludy 324]

i think we need more civilian than military weapons. when you go to the barracks you can find a huge variety of rifles, but when you enter a house you can find only 3 rifles and 3 pistols

[joeoblong@yahoo.com 614]

To you people screaming for melee weapons? You do realize they are a waste of the dev's time right? Sure at first people will enjoy them, until I shoot them for being so stupid as to bring a melee weapon to a gun fight.

At first I was excited about it too, then someone asked "How many times did I pick up a crowbar?" These weapons are not gonna be as great as you are hoping. The users of these weapons will flood the forums with their tears and cries for such & such guns removal.

[Jonsse 69]

I would agree with bringing in more civilian weapons and reduce the amount of military weapons available. Military generally has one type of assault rifle, one type of hand gun, one or 2 types of sniper rifle in use. There shouldn't be such diversity in a survival game, but civilian weapons can be pretty much anything. It's certainly not a priority, rather get the basics right first, then press on about gun diversity. Hopefully in the future we'll be able to mod the guns with sights, laser pointers and such by stripping other guns. Right now it feels more like diablo 3 with the current "loot system".

I also think magazines should be containers for bullets rather than charges for weapons, something the devs will hopefully eventually implement. There are only a handful of ammo calibers used, some weapons have specific types like the m107, but generally rifles use one of 2 standards, the 7.62×51mm NATO and 5.56×45mm NATO so having a different "charge" for certain weapons makes no sense when the bullets are the same. Submachineguns like mp5 and Bizon use the exact same bullet as the m9 or g17, but their magazines aren't interchangeable. But again not alpha build concerns, just some future ideas.

To you people screaming for melee weapons? You do realize they are a waste of the dev's time right? Sure at first people will enjoy them, until I shoot them for being so stupid as to bring a melee weapon to a gun fight.

Well you're right for not wasting development hours on stuff like melee weapons, but it's still a valid idea and not having that option would be a great detriment to a zombie survival game. I would also like to bring to question your narrow viewpoint on the use of melee weapons and general knowledge of zombie survival. You don't use melee weapons to fight a murderous psychopath armed with a M16 (that's you), you use it to fight brainless man eating zombies in close quarters or when you can't use loud weapons like guns that attract attention. Any item is a melee weapon too, so of all the possible melee weapons lying around we have an axe and a knife, there should be more.

Edited December 12, 2012 by Jonsse

[Nemesisboyz 2]

It never gets stale...the group of people u play with must be boring, or u.

[sunnz 24]

To you people screaming for melee weapons? You do realize they are a waste of the dev's time right? Sure at first people will enjoy them, until I shoot them for being so stupid as to bring a melee weapon to a gun fight.

At first I was excited about it too, then someone asked "How many times did I pick up a crowbar?" These weapons are not gonna be as great as you are hoping. The users of these weapons will flood the forums with their tears and cries for such & such guns removal.

Melees are for zombies, not everyone goes around shooting others you know...

If like warz, it can be effective against people too which i like as it balances it out.

It makes perfect sense. Melee in dayz mod is one of the worst, which is expected. SA it should be a different experience and improved, A LOT.

Sure some may cry, BUT NO WERE NEAR enough compared to people who will come into the forums and cry that guns are too common and the game is PVP( and that there is no melee weapons) Guns should quite rare, ammo rarer and melee common.

It's survival, not deathmatch.

I want guns to be a last resort type of thing, they should be loud and attract a lot of zombies, EVEN the makarov should, it should be deadly to use it unless you really have to, making melees more useful and purposeful. Wanna go around shooting your gun like a crazy fool? go ahead.

That is my view anyway.

[joeoblong@yahoo.com 614]

Well you're right for not wasting development hours on stuff like melee weapons, but it's still a valid idea and not having that option would be a great detriment to a zombie survival game. I would also like to bring to question your narrow viewpoint on the use of melee weapons and general knowledge of zombie survival. You don't use melee weapons to fight a murderous psychopath armed with a M16 (that's you), you use it to fight brainless man eating zombies in close quarters or when you can't use loud weapons like guns that attract attention. Any item is a melee weapon too, so of all the possible melee weapons lying around we have an axe and a knife, there should be more.

Quit reading there! The rest of that rubbish is nonsense.

I kid, I kid... Zombie survival!? You do realize that's a fairy tale right? I am more adept at surviving things that have a real possiblity in happening. It's not like i care what your opinion of me is, but murderous psycopath? Nice call there Freud, now can you tell me i can't eat bananas but love peaches? I am just pointing out if things are as they are now, melee weapons will be a waste of time. Sure "you" are happily whacking away at zombies (AI), and Mr. Bandit who can give a rats ass about Z kill count goes after Player kills shoots you because you can't switch as fast as he can pull... we'll see how much resources were wasted.

I hope I am wrong and if the ammo situation is fixed then it's a non-issue. But I've played enough FFA games I know where it'll end up! A small amount of players will cause enough chaos that melee will not be a valid option.

Edited December 12, 2012 by Pendragon

[sunnz 24]

Quit reading there! The rest of that rubbish is nonsense.

I kid, I kid... Zombie survival!? You do realize that's a fairy tale right? I am more adept at surviving things that have a real possiblity in happening. It's not like i care what your opinion of me is, but murderous psycopath? Nice call there Freud, now can you tell me i can't eat bananas but love peaches? I am just pointing out if things are as they are now, melee weapons will be a waste of time. Sure "you" are happily whacking away at zombies (AI), and Mr. Bandit who can give a rats ass about Z kill count goes after Player kills shoots you because you can't switch as fast as he can pull... we'll see how much resources were wasted.

I hope I am wrong and if the ammo situation is fixed then it's a non-issue. But I've played enough FFA games I know where it'll end up! A small amount of players will cause enough chaos that melee will not be a valid option.

Quit reading there! The rest of that rubbish is nonsense.

I kid, I kid... Zombie survival!? You do realize that's a fairy tale right? I am more adept at surviving things that have a real possiblity in happening. It's not like i care what your opinion of me is, but murderous psycopath? Nice call there Freud, now can you tell me i can't eat bananas but love peaches? I am just pointing out if things are as they are now, melee weapons will be a waste of time. Sure "you" are happily whacking away at zombies (AI), and Mr. Bandit who can give a rats ass about Z kill count goes after Player kills shoots you because you can't switch as fast as he can pull... we'll see how much resources were wasted.

I hope I am wrong and if the ammo situation is fixed then it's a non-issue. But I've played enough FFA games I know where it'll end up! A small amount of players will cause enough chaos that melee will not be a valid option.

YOU think they are rubbish because you are only thinking about using them againt bandits/ people. That is not the point.

There will be many times were you could use a melee in town and loot a town by making NO noise AT ALL, This will allow you to go pretty much unnoticed for the most part as you are not manning any noise. The amount of times i have found people in warz/dayz because they chose to shoot zombies is ridiculous. It makes you a big target.

Melee weapons allow you to be sneaky and not give away your position, which is VERY important.

Surviving is not just killing others, its staying alive and there are MANY ways in which you could do that. What is the longest you have survived without killing?

Melee weapons have a purpose, a massive one, your style of play makes this purpose seem pointless. If you want to shoot zombies and give away your position/ get caught, go ahead but i bet if they are added, you will use them a lot.

[joeoblong@yahoo.com 614]

YOU think they are rubbish because you are only thinking about using them againt bandits/ people. That is not the point.

There will be many times were you could use a melee in town and loot a town by making NO noise AT ALL, This will allow you to go pretty much unnoticed for the most part as you are not manning any noise. The amount of times i have found people in warz/dayz because they chose to shoot zombies is ridiculous. It makes you a big target.

Melee weapons allow you to be sneaky and not give away your position, which is VERY important.

Surviving is not just killing others, its staying alive and there are MANY ways in which you could do that. What is the longest you have survived without killing?

Melee weapons have a purpose, a massive one, your style of play makes this purpose seem pointless. If you want to shoot zombies and give away your position/ get caught, go ahead but i bet if they are added, you will use them a lot.

*Sigh* Ok skippy you got me pegged! You know all about me and my playstyle! The rubbish remark was a joke (hench the I kid, i kid remark I was being silly by highlighting the i was right part.) But whatever you want to be right! So fine your right i am wrong... or we'll just have to wait and see. Also it is easy as pie to loot a town without engaging a single foe for the record. If stealth is possible, it is always the better tactic then dead bodies littering the roads. I've been in stary and NWAF while a full blow war was going on and never got spotted. Granted I've been busted my fair share also, or gained zombie aggro. Like I said I hope i am wrong here, I'd like to have other means of defense, I am one for options. But I don't believe they will be as sought after as you all believe. Look at how the KoS situation evolved.

I'll try to remember to rez this thread a few month after SA is released and will either "neener neener" you or admit i am "wrong." Happy now? Good I am going to bed!

[bfisher 561]

I once axed a man to get his ak. Honestly id be content to have an easier way to switch to ax for silent zombie killing.

[hatfieldcw 184]

I once axed a man to get his ak. Honestly id be content to have an easier way to switch to ax for silent zombie killing.

If you ax politely, people will give you all their stuff. True story.

As for easy switching, that's why I think the crowbar's the best item in the game right now. Nothing like having a hatchet bayonet on your DMR or Lee Enfield.

[Kaffarov37 125]

I have been playing this mod pretty much since it came out. I played with a group for about 2 months, but I prefer going solo.

[MakeThemListen 51]

I want hunting knives, bats, golf clubs, hockey sticks, katanas, Maglite flashlights and chainsaws (don't forget to fill with gas!) as weapons

I want F to cycle through ALL my weapons -Rifle, pistol, ax, grenades, flashlight - without having to do that weird mouse thing to switch from rifle to pistol or "take ax from toolbelt".

I want the empty whisky bottle to be a legitimate weapon.

All of the things you mentioned would be okay except hockey sticks, golf clubs, and katana. Hockey sticks and golf clubs would in no way be suitable for killing humans or zombies, if you're lucky you might get one before it breaks. Play Dead Rising for that. Katanas: NOBODY has those except for nerds who never get laid, and those are cheap fake ones that are not sharp and would break, unless they are very wealthy. You would never find one of these in a Russian village. Also go play Dead Rising for this.

[-Gews- 7443]

Katanas: NOBODY has those except for nerds who never get laid, and those are cheap fake ones that are not sharp and would break, unless they are very wealthy. You would never find one of these in a Russian village. Also go play Dead Rising for this.

How about a European sword, maybe something like this?

http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz341/chenessfan/P1010544.mp4

Most people I know seem to have a few lying around.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Gews

[Tarkastio 38]

DayZ needs more blunt objects that I can use to beat you with.

On a less murderous note, DayZ in my opinion shouldn't have "more" guns, but more uses and variants of them.

IE: An AK with a bayonet, for those close combat bandit skirmishes. Flashlights, suppressors, etc, all to be used on various weapons.

I'd prefer not to have so many weapons so that they all begin to blend together and are so close that x weapon is literally just Y weapon with a larger clip and less damage.

Individuality and flavor of each weapon should be kept, while keeping an customization for what is right for you.

Edited December 14, 2012 by Tarkastio

[Claw 26]

More military weapons the better. Been enjoying g36's on celle map, glad they being included in update. Want a susat scope on a l85 XD