Dayz koS would be rife irl if there was an apocalypse

[jaytmuk (DayZ) 621]

Apocalypse hits and Zombies are running amok

People would panic at first, Trying to locate loved ones and maybe secure their home from Zombies.

I doubt many would be overly bothered by other humans at this stage because theirs plenty of food, water and supplies to go around at this early stage. (apart from the people with nothing to start with, they would be killing and stealing from day 1 in order to survive and even take from others what they never had), Jealousy is a very strong human emotion.

Months down the line and supplies of food and water are getting thin

People with supplies will defend what they have to further their own and their loved ones survival.

People whos supplies have run out have no option to attack and steal from the people with plenty in order to survive (or they will die because many people will not share in the knowledge it will shorten their own and their loved ones survival chances) Would you put others lives before your loved ones?

Years go past and virtually all supplies are spent

It would be chaos.

Humans murdering other humans for a tin of beans, Cos that means maybe another weeks survival from hunger.

(You may be asking "well what about the random snipers killing for fun)

Fun?

An innocent person passing you by today could be a threat tommorow when he/she gets a weapon and needs some of the supplies you currently have ;)

So in my opinion Dayz koS is totally realistic with what would occur if the world suffered such an apocalypse.

peace x :)

(ps - Am feeling that the vast majority of people who complain and say dayz koS is dumb and unrealistic, are just butthurt really cos they keep getting owned whilst they walk down cherno streets skiping and jumping) :P

Edited November 16, 2012 by jaytmuk

[Erizid 56]

What is "kol"? Kill on lizard? Kill on Lupis?

I assume you meant KoS which stands for Kill on Sight.

If the disease spread quickly enough, there might be canned food years later.

[rallye 89]

OP I love your avatar, I love your sig, but for some reason I hate this thread. I don't know why and I don't think it's your fault. I just really hate this thread.

[declan223@gmail.com 271]

If you saw some one you wouldn't shoot them unless you had to. You'd actually be pretty happy to see someone else. What if that guy had a lot of supplies that he'd be willing to share? What if he was with some one else and you get a bullet through the head back at you? You just wouldn't shoot onsite, unless you were a psychopath.

P.S. If bandits looked at things from both sides, then there would be like zilch banditry. But they don't and that makes them selfish c***s

[pcfusion@gmail.com 0]

I agree with Shrimpy, most bandits that you see outside Cherno and Elektro are simply trying to make the lives of anyone in those cities miserable. I really like FrankieonPC's youtube videos because he does things properly, He does kill a bit quick at times but only because an individual is threatening to happen upon his position, not like the CoD players outside those aforementioned cities who are true psychopaths.

I don't like to waste bullets but I also don't trust people. That doesn't mean I will kill every person I see, I will do my best to avoid them, if it looks like they know where I am and they are trying to get a shot lined up, I may have to take them out, but sometimes resorting to the old method of flapping your lips back and forth can resolve these situations outright.

[ManiacMike69 37]

Lets put it this way, look at all the murders, rapes assaults and crazy shit going on right now.

Multiply that by 100,0000 or more in a non lawful world = nice people are fucked.

[pcfusion@gmail.com 0]

Lets put it this way, look at all the murders, rapes assaults and crazy shit going on right now.

Multiply that by 100,0000 or more in a non lawful world = nice people are fucked.

Honestly the reality of the situation would be that all these kids that play the CoD style kill everyone for their enjoyment mentality will be the first to be in a corner pissing themselves during a real zombie apocalypse.

I takes courage to be nice and try to extend a helping hand, a coward pulls the trigger at first sight. Which is exactly why a method to deter banditry should be introduced that as the more people you kill for the fun of it the more psychotic you become until you see the ghosts of the people you've killed all around you and a survivor finds you shooting at nothing in the middle of a field and puts you out of your misery.

Edited November 16, 2012 by Balinoar

[Mos1ey 6301]

People seem to assume that law =/= morality which is completely false. Just because there is no law you do you honestly think you'd be okay with ending another person's life?

[pcfusion@gmail.com 0]

People seem to assume that law =/= morality which is completely false. Just because there is no law you do you honestly think you'd be okay with ending another person's life?

Exactly, spot on. Problem is most players look at this as just another video game and not what it is meant to be.

[ManiacMike69 37]

Exactly, spot on. Problem is most players look at this as just another video game and not what it is meant to be.

This is Real life talk not game related..

But ya look at the world now and your trying to tell me it would be fine? Na.

[pcfusion@gmail.com 0]

This is Real life talk not game related..

But ya look at the world now and your trying to tell me it would be fine? Na.

I think I may have misread your post. Gonna just remove what I said and I see your point now. I was in defend my post mode.

Edited November 16, 2012 by Balinoar

[spliff (DayZ) 24]

do you notice that when dayZ first launched, the "kos" mentality was nearly not there? but now it is? well, the same would happen "in real life". first you'd try to work together, but the first two or three "bandits" that kill your friends to collect their beans would change you mind, and you'd become one of them too. paranoid, brutal and only thinking about your own survival.

that's what makes the dayZ game so impressive. it simulates humanity, in a certain way. just look at warzones today.

[ManiacMike69 37]

The game is a survival simulator, its meant to simulate reality in a zombie apocalypse(as real as a zombie apocalypse can be =P). I know where I would go if something like this happened. Far far away from everyone else. I've already got plenty of spots I can think of off the top of my head. And food would be plentiful and I don't rely on canned food for my survival.

Hopefully your the only person in the planet with this nice place in mind...I doubt it though lol

[svisketyggeren 662]

koS?

[mzltv 2281]

Let me start my response with this:-

It would not be kill on sight if it was the Apocalypse. Like, you've actually reduced my IQ by saying something as ridiculous as that.

People will not suddenly turn into homicidal ar*eholes. People tend to band together to survive as opposed to drive-by on everything with a pulse, in times of catastrophy.

Like, do you honestly think guns will be that common, as well? I doubt the day, even in apocalyptic times, when my Mum will walk into the front room all like "You'll never guess what, there was a downed chopper outside and now I have a FN FAL with 3 mags!"

B*llshit. You're wrong. Cease and desist.

Edited November 16, 2012 by mzltv

[porkus_maximus 36]

If the DayZ KoS mentality was realistic then chances of a human race surviving in a post-appocalyptic environment would be 0.1%.

An innocent person passing you by today could be a threat tommorow when he/she gets a weapon and needs some of the supplies you currently have

No one kills other players for supplies in DayZ. NO ONE. In DayZ you kill people because they have a cooler gun than you, a coyote back pack, a range finder, NVGs or maybe a vehicle. Food, water and fuel are all in abundance. Even on a 60 player server there is more than enough beans and soda to keep everyone fed and hydrated. DayZ is actually a very bad simultation of a post apocalyptic environment because there is an infinite supply of everything you need, there is actually no requirement to kill any one to survive, people simply choose to play murderous psychopaths because It's a heck of a lot more entertaining than playing a hermit in the black forest who only kills boar and rabbits.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

@OP

You can't rationalise Kill-on-Sight mentality solely by using "lack of supplies" as an excuse.

There's no lack of supplies in DayZ and IRL if killing people was your main method of gathering necessities you wouldn't be likely to last very long.

[spliff (DayZ) 24]

koS?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+does+kos+mean

;-)

[reuben5150 83]

Apocalypse hits and Zombies are running amok

People would panic at first, Trying to locate loved ones and maybe secure their home from Zombies.

I doubt many would be overly bothered by other humans at this stage because theirs plenty of food, water and supplies to go around at this early stage. (apart from the people with nothing to start with, they would be killing and stealing from day 1 in order to survive and even take from others what they never had), Jealousy is a very strong human emotion.

Months down the line and supplies of food and water are getting thin

People with supplies will defend what they have to further their own and their loved ones survival.

People whos supplies have run out have no option to attack and steal from the people with plenty in order to survive (or they will die because many people will not share in the knowledge it will shorten their own and their loved ones survival chances) Would you put others lives before your loved ones?

Years go past and virtually all supplies are spent

It would be chaos.

Humans murdering other humans for a tin of beans, Cos that means maybe another weeks survival from hunger.

(You may be asking "well what about the random snipers killing for fun)

Fun?

An innocent person passing you by today could be a threat tommorow when he/she gets a weapon and needs some of the supplies you currently have ;)

So in my opinion Dayz koS is totally realistic with what would occur if the world suffered such an apocalypse.

peace x :)

(ps - Am feeling that the vast majority of people who complain and say dayz koS is dumb and unrealistic, are just butthurt really cos they keep getting owned whilst they walk down cherno streets skiping and jumping) :P

What a pile of junk.

[mzltv 2281]

(ps - Am feeling that the vast majority of people who complain and say dayz koS is dumb and unrealistic, are just butthurt really cos they keep getting owned whilst they walk down cherno streets skiping and jumping) :P

Just seen this as well - definitely not that. Probably more the fact that you outrightly talking from your ar*ehole.

[Bongofish 22]

I believe that posts like this are just cowards trying to defend their banditry as "realistic". There are plenty of places on earth where there essentially is no law and resources are severely limited. And while murder may be more common in these areas, it is nothing at all like the KOS mentallity in a video game. Only a spoiled westerner would even suggest that a video game could in any way simulate that.

If this were truly human nature then societies would never have formed in the first place and we would all be living in tribes murdering each other.

Early humans were not sophisticated enough to even worry about morality, they grouped together to survive because it is the most advantageous method of survival. Loners and murderers would quickly disappear as the group became larger and more well organized and hunted down those that threaten them.

In real life there are no respawns and it wouldn't take long for all the psycopaths to be dealt with. The problem with DayZ is that these people get to respawn and keep up their KOS ways, effectively making it impossible to remove their sub-human tendencies from the genepool, as would happen in reality.

TLDR: The fact that we live in societies now is proof that the KOS mentality is an aberration and has nothing to do with reality.

[leettari (DayZ) 133]

People seem to assume that law =/= morality which is completely false. Just because there is no law you do you honestly think you'd be okay with ending another person's life?

Precisely.

It's not as simple some folks think it is when you really think about it.

[Sansin 0]

I just skimmed it and thought.

"So most people are to stupid to go hunting?"

Once the canned and processed stuff was used up i would assume people would learn how to hunt afterwards.

[rallye 89]

I just skimmed it and thought.

"So most people are to stupid to go hunting?"

Once the canned and processed stuff was used up i would assume people would learn how to hunt afterwards.

If they're smart they are hunting as much as possible before inclement weather season hits. Canned food that is preserved and safe from most bacteria and incests should be food of last resort.

[Itsnotcrazyuntilchachacha 13]

People seem to assume that law =/= morality which is completely false.

'Sup pal, lawyer speaking here ;). Any law that goes against the Human Rights is generally regarded as juridically invalid. True. Now this may sound to you as what you were saying, word by word. Well, there's a big gap: Law is not to be bent by what you, or your group, may understand by morality. It's important, you see, because differences between cultural morals can be wild, all sides having perfectly sane, kind and literate people amongst its ranks.

Which is pretty much why I brought in the Human Rights, as that's the only juridical compilation of Right in which most of us coincide.

And what am I trying to call with this whole thing? Bullshit, that's what! surprise surprise!

So yeah, essentially, what you call morals are just an intellectual, self constructed amalgam of rules you resort to whenever you feel threatened by the environment, all this in order to trigger your ideal of self-righteousness.

Come on pal, do you know who put your sneakers and iPhones together? Not to mention your whole, you know, economic system? There's a million iraqi corpses out in the blue, who would like to have a word with all of us in regards of our morals. And that's going back 10 years. Human history, specially the most recent, is by itself a paradigm of the so called spread of high morals, through actions that hide all sorts of abject interests.

Do you think the present is anywhere less wild than a Zombie apocalypse? Well, maybe in your neighbourhood isn't! Now go take a walk around the place you get your oil from ;)

EDIT: Forgot to add the actual point of the whole thing, lol.

You can't justify people KoS in this game. Having tried, you know, I do admit some people are actual jerks. However, the whole field of morals is not just, you know, morals as everyone has these morals. Really, if you were aware of the amount of discussion that has been put into trying to define, to enumerate what human morals are, you'd think twice before bringing that in. As a mere example I'll say the actual Law, international and internal juridical doctrine of Law has long abandoned the idea of trying to link its very existence to anything that even sounds like ''morals.''

Peace.

Edited November 16, 2012 by Itsnotcrazyuntilchachacha