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Vehicles would be great, but if the current scavenger system was worked on more, fixing up a wreck and getting it going is part of the fun. Should be able to craft more though to make barricades and stuff like that.

Yep. My guess is ~10 vehicles on a map and in some servers you have clans bragging about having 6 vehicles. Now go and find a vehicle for your group :( Increasing the randomness of vehicle spawning would be nice. And having some indication of total server uptime would help to find out if there's any point in searching for them. Because you don't have a chance to find vehicles on a server that's been online for long time without a wipe.

Majority of the servers I came across don't get much attention from admins and when a bug occurs (f.e. no loot/zeds spawning or vehicles/tents despawning) its most likely not going to get fixed that day. So I used to play on NL1 (Veteran mode) which has a good admins that are online frequently and restart the server properly (lock it) every time a bug like that is reported and I never ever had problems connecting to it even if it was overloaded with billion of zeds and every other server had endless "wait for server response". Infinite kudos to the admins on NL1, but they made it day only :( So do you guys know about other european servers with good staff like this? And preferably veteran mode? (scanning treeline for hud identification during ambush is really lame but viable way to get advantage)

I agree 100%, Vehicles are tough to fix up, they will be lost by ambushes, crashes, people shooting at you and there very noisy and noticeable. Make them more common so at least players and groups feel like they have a chance and meeting up will be a little quicker, all while risking the inevitable of losing your vehicle all the time.

Rocket himself has said that the main problem is people spamming enter to get into servers. Which isn't going to change anytime soon, since at peak times that's pretty much the only way to make it into a server (not to mention needing to get in for server-side assets like tents and vehicles), so really the only way the waiting for server response issue will get fixed is by the mod getting a lot more servers for people to spread out on.

If this was made as a stand alone game, or as part of some particular existing game, what kind of consumer model would you want to play it on? How would you rather pay for it? This really depends on how you go about it, I'm willing to put money down on this game either way, but you really have something here with this game / idea / concept. I think it could really become Huge if it was developed as its own game from the ground up, and it really would be awesome as sandboxy MMO, so you can have more people and more zombie then our small 50 person servers we have now. I would easily pay a box fee and even a monthly fee if you were going to go that route, although the Guild Wars approach (no monthly fee) is nice too. But if you go the MMO route you would have to make sure the game stays the way it is, no levels, no quests, open world, basically the same game you have now, just bigger and more in depth in a MMO space. You could go in more depth with and beef up the "crafting" system you have now with the setting up fortifications, repairing vehicles, etc. etc. If you see what I'm saying / getting at, I don't want the game or your vision to change, but this concept would really take the MMO scene / gaming scene by storm. Also: I think even if you were going to start developing this as its own game from the ground up, and even if you were going to take my suggestion to push it as a MMO to make it the same game as it now but larger scale, It should be studio developed, but it should be able to take ideas / suggestions / and even help from the community kinda like it does now already in the Alpha, and be kinda like a Hybrid Development situation. For the servers if your going to push this as a bigger MMO title it should obviously be Studio Servers as most games, it works out the best & you can have more control to prevent cheating, and faster on bug fixes and patches, I just feel the overall response time of things is better when you have all the control like that with having / owning the servers as the developer / studio. And why not do a Kickstarter, I'm sure lots of people from the community you have now actually playing the game not to mention, the gaming community in a whole would probably have no problem throwing money your way to make this dream a reality. I know people are already trying to throw money at you for the Mod, so yea, that shouldn't be a issue.

I love how people are literally crying their bodies out on locked servers, creating threads at the exact SECOND the server go private ... ... ... While crews and crews of cheaters are actually spawning high-end vehicles ( A-10 / T90's ) and weapons ( M107 TWS / MK16 / Anything you could imagine ) using random scripts and cheats, and destroying the mod in a more efficient and fast way than every locked server on earth could achieve. Keep your fucking facts straight babies. If you want to cry over something cry over that. Because those guys, even at dabase level, can't be really permabanned.

If you look up a loot bus video you will notice the clan that did that had a player village of tents and vehicles to hold up to 20 tons of elephant shit.

So what do you people do when you've got yourself your own air force, and enough vehicles to store 20 tons of elephant shit in? I've wondered if Day Z will ever get to a stage (if it hasn't already in some servers) where clans will merge and form tent villages, and eventually spread out until their borders meet and then war erupts! Do you think this would be possible? I mean we've got sandbags and barbed wire, perhaps this could be used to form quarantine zones to keep zombies out (actually I think barbed wire doesn't work but sandbags might)

removing/disabling the terrible arma radar system from dayz vehicles would help fix this.

A cool idea also, would be to avoid common diseases, to force disconnections in buildings, in vehicles or near tents, that could be neat

yes but are they finite or are they just rare. its really shitty when 1 person can hide 6 vehicles if they are finite.

Our team has gone from survival to 'making a living' and creating a little community. Once you get familiar with tents and vehicles you CAN take it to another level. It is (the popular term) farming when we go to a town with a hospital to get medical supplies or to a military camp to rearm but the whole point is that your being saved every time you log out. That's where dayZ wins! Now it's your own job to be creative.

Multiple times. Talking about helicopter, when you have one, you can basically snowball every other vehicle on the map and fuck other players. Since the helicopter has a radar, you can detect vehicles from far away without breaking a sweat. Meaning if you got some friends with you, you can stack all the vehicles of the server. Fucking gay. So much exploration. What's the point exactly ? If you know where is the good stuff, you are probably already well equiped, you and your friends. No need for going into a town, taking risk, and attract a shitton of bandits. See where i'm going ?

I'm pretty sure I also have this issue, vehicles seem extremely sparse on my server. How can we know if someone is using anothers instance id? The way they are setup it's not difficult to guess another id. Why don't we have UUID's instead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier)? Cheers, G

Yes, mostly vehicles are claimed by now. And there are just like 10-15 cars on each server and not every originally spawned in cities. Here is a hint: There is red civilian car in middle of Kozlovka (west from 2-story red enterable building, right near flipped over static wreck on the road), it might be not taken by this moment on some servers. Good luck.

From what I've read, the servers have to be restarted every six hours or so. I haven't seen many vehicles, either. I'm always amazed at all of this vehicle talk, but for me, I prefer for them to be rare. I saw one flying helicopter once, and a repairable bus last night. One time, I saw a tire. I can only assume that the intention is to make vehicles more of a group effort.... L

all i know is that once repaired if a vehicles blows up it wont respawn. and i think it requires a server restart for the vehicles to respawn.

So I've been trying for days to find a vehicle to fix up and I've had no luck. The only way I could become better geared in 1.5.7 is to get NVG, but that's rare. So I wanted a car (Not bragging, just been alive long enough). I feel like I'm stagnating a bit in terms of things to do, I'm stuck between gearing up and getting wheels. Now for some questions; Will broken vehicles respawn over time if the number of broken vehicles drops too low? How often does a full reset of broken and/or working vehicles happen? I get the impression that once a server has been up for say a week or two then all the vehicles have been claimed and are then hidden away when not in use. Leaving players like me in the situation of searching town after town and finding nothing. So yea whats up with this, am I too late to the party and do I have to start searching the wilderness on foot for player camps? Also as a side note I would like to see broken vehicles become more common while the parts needed to fix them become rarer, this would be more authentic imo.

Rocket, I'm so dissapointed in how damn realistic this game is. With that in mind, heres some suggestions: * Crysis style invisibility suit. * Replace Makarov starter pistol with a self replenishing laser cannon. * Make tanks repairable vehicles that spawn every 5 minutes within 50m of all player spawn points. The repair parts should be in a box no more than 25m from the tank itself. * Make the rain into acid rain that melts zombies and give us acid rain protection suits. * Allow us to carry nine weapons and unlimited ammunition. * Allow us to un-mount the miniguns from chopper wrecks so we can then re-mount them onto cars allowing death race 2000 style racing competitions around the map. * Introduce care packages like in COD, with the pinnacle being a nuclear delivery package at 25 murders. * Add Ninja Assassins to the mod! These guys randomly jump down at you from trees with their super ninja swords and attempt to decapitate you! * Add "Dance" emotes. Inspiration for these ideas came from various other threads so I cant take full credit for them.

I dont understand how that would stir up anger? Unless Ive missed previous SP DayZ threads, but I would love an SP-lite version. Obviously you wouldnt be able to save your data unto any database or whatever, but just a lite, dumbed down version like Dynamic Zombie Sandbox would be awesome. I'd love to coop it out with some friends without having to join a massive, laggy server where I constantly need to worry about bandits and am unable to create my own scenarios with custom vehicles and weapons, and what have you. Right now though I reckon DayZ team should obviously focus on ironing out bugs and whatever, but Im rooting for a little taste for the SP/Coop players among us as well.

Date/Time: During The 1.5.7 in general What happened: We crashed about 2 helis, and 3 cars ever since there are no cars to be seen on the server even after restarts , we have checked their original spawn points but nothing . . . We did lose both helicopters due to our pilots being kicked out by battleye. I think there won't be any vehicles left after all are lost , Unless their respawn works. Where you were: during the crashed/vehicle losses i was offline. What you were doing: // *Current installed version: 1.5.7 *Server(s) you were on: Eu12 *Your system specs: // *Timeline of events before/after error: //

Qla, the server you were playing on lost it's connection to the central database Hive. The central DB controls the location of the tents and vehicles. Your tent and car probably reappear when the server admin does a HARD reboot of the server and allows about 90 seconds for the Hive script to finish.

So...I fixed a car, hid it really well, saved it and took a brake from the game, came back about 60-70 minutes later and it was gone, even my tent was gone (other players can not steal tents). Was it just a random glitch, or what the hell happened? How long do the vehicles & tents remain saved in the servers?

Uhhh... a tent. And i've since died so in desperate need of another. :( Also you should know that the M136 is loaded with AT warheads that have next to no splash. It's really only for vehicles.