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In the real world there are many numerous benefits to being an active member of a community. Some of which are gained through no effort of your own. Other benefits require your time and energy to realize. Such is the mechanic I believe necessary to enable the path of the humanity-reclaimers in the wold of DayZ. Again, what we're discussing is as follows: 1. A set of rewards unlocked by either the exchange of goods (value for value) or meeting a given opportunities minimum Humanity score. 2. Humanity is earned through, direct, peer to peer support. Hand a fellow survivor a can of beans earn the value of the beans in Humanity. Some suggestions for the types of opportunities unlocked: - learn to bandage wounds more efficiently - improved weapon accuracy - operate complicated vehicles - generate power - reinforce structures - etc..

I simply changed what I want to do in the game. I simply run around with an axe, the best pack I can find, basic survival gear, map, compass, knife, matches, bandages, morphine and either drinks or water bottles. I then run around emptying camps and destroying any vehicles I find. If I die, everything is easily gotten again. I will expect more and do more when the standalone comes out.

Just spent a few hours, found 3 cars and 2 Boats and were repairing them, when hackers teleported to our Hippy Van and me and my friend shot them up, none of the 4 or 5 of them died, DMR shots wouldnt kill them, M4A1 CCO SD wouldnt kill them and they killed me and if my friend didnt abort he would be dead as well, i hope to god they dont find our V3S but if they could find all our other vehicles so easily then they prolly found the V3S, i have video evidence of the hacking including but not limited to, multiple deaths over a short period of time, teleporting and invincibility. This really makes me want to quit, i had so much fun finding those vehicles and boats, and thats just taken away by a group of butthurt asshats, where is the fun in getting everything handed to you? i worked for that shit doesnt mean you can just take it, fuck.

Hey if any players are looking for a server to play on, US #4001 (1.7.2.5/95948) Hosted by DD214 Vets is looking for some new people. We are a newer server and are looking to boost our numbers for more people to interact with. Right now to help out newer players I have been running around repairing vehicles and bringing them down to Cherno and Elektro. I also filled them up with some good items for new players including GPS, NVG, and Range Finder. So come join us and bring your friends or clans. We welcome all play styles.

For this item to work, it would need to be group operated. And we had them in every vehicle when I was over in Iraq, so around military bases, vehicles, or zombie soldiers, there could be one waiting. I do agree though, just objects alone can't solve the problem, though they can encourage effects and results. It is just in my opinion that I would like to see the game stay realistic in terms of rewards being offered by spawn advantages (meaning extra items, placements, availability of your buddies). I respect everyones view of the game, I would still play if there were advantages such as extra goodies for those who were well behaved were implemented. Truth be told, I don't know what anyone could do for some tween all boned up for COD and play just to kill for kicks. But in a "real" post-apocalyptical world there is a psycho out there mass killing for fun what can you do? Avoid them or band together to execute the threat.

A parking lot??What Dayz needs is a freaky huge abandoned junk yard and the parts needed to repair vehicles expanded.Make this place a must go to spot if you find a vehicle in need of repair,like a hospital is now to meds.And if Green Mountain stays in game then make it spawn a special item....maybe parts needed if you find a radio.

They were also added for their ability to destroy enemy vehicles.

fix vehicles and tents and I will be happy till stand-alone release.

In actual fact your guys opened on us the first time we ever came across you... for NO REASON. Since then we have encountered you once... Noodle was shooting at you that time due to the fact that your clan of 'survivors' killed us and sunk our corpses. So yes you guys are the hostile ones. I have not killed 65k worth of players believe me... it's a bug. I had a bug the other day where I was logging on within seconds I was a bandit and then in the next I wasn't...I've lost my backpack a few times this way. (May I add I am currently on 61k so much for being a bandit ay?) There was a player named Shepster who was untagged (I'm pretty certain but anyway) I reiterate that if you came down the hill we would not of shot you. You are making out like we were the bandits from the off. Noodle only disconnected after he died you killed all 3 of us in under 30 seconds. If you want to shoot us for fear of us attacking you? Just remember it was you who shot us first and killed us first and sunk our corpses.. We simply found a vehicle. If you come across us and we see your clan tags and identify as friendly we won't kill you. Beany on the other hand attacks anyone with his hacked gun and he will not receive the same treatment, sad thing is we're never in town where he camps so the chances of that are remote. By the way you killing us for no reason isn't a moan we said at the time fair enough you killed us fair and square. We don't mind sharing vehicles etc we only said we would get revenge on you by sinking your corpses and we've not even bothered looking for you... but so far you've gone and stashed all the vehicles again... we left them in the open we knew it was someone else's camp. Just remember that. We're survivors we've only killed bandits around the NE Airfield lately Again we encountered Zippy at another one of your camps... who shot at us first.... surprise surprise Just another heads up... we know where a lot of your bases are and we've even found some of our old vehicles... We noticed after we got shot at by Zippy your teamspeak must've been busy because a load of you jumped on... What are you so worried about lol... Shame we can't come on and get to know you 'fellow' survivors better.

We've just got our server straight onto 1.7.2.5 and having the same issue of all tents we put up dont hold items past server restart, plus any vehicles we repair and move return to the pre repaired state and position at restart...we've now repaired the V3S three times and lost it. Is there any way to roll our server back to 1.7.2.4 given the files we have were new with 1.7.2.5? I can see in the server admin panel (we're a managed server) the 1.7.2.4 patch files but I'm not sure it will connect to the hive properly since our files were post the update? Anyone know if this is going to break the server or not?

No. The best you can do is monitor it and take action. It won't be stopped until at least standalone and higher populations attract the behavior for obvious reasons. When the server is at 20 or less it's usually only the people spawning vehicles, ammo boxes and handing themselves ghillie suits and coyote backpacks over and over. Soon as it hits 30+ it's only a matter of time until teleports, broken legs, death, etc.

Forget all of that, trying to compare this game to actual, real life experience is not only ridiculous, it's impossible. We're not in an apocalypse. And even then, yes, we'd all act differently there then we do in a video game without any actual consequences. The 'survival' aspect of the game you guys continue to tout doesn't last beyond day 2 for any player with a grasp of common sense and awareness of his surroundings. After that, the only thing left to do is find vehicles, and kill other players. Most people at this point have already tooled around with vehicles, made camps, etc. What else would you want these players to do?

Hi Coka, I'm not sure why you think Shepster killed you as he wasn't even online at the time, Domain is like yourselves a regular on the server, however he happens to jump on our TS to tell us of strange things i.e hackers or alt f4 so they can be added to the wall of shame. You did indeed find one of our old bases, infact you found two it seems as we watched you guys go from one to the other and bring vehicles between them i.e the uaz and tractor, I was laid between both of you when you returned to the first camp, Sadly I don't think the come down the hill and stating we was friendly would have happened, why? Because in the past you guys have opened fire on us when we posed no threat for no reason, this has resulted on you and your guys i.e Noodle going on the shoot on site list due to your actions. I play passive and have only killed one person in 3months of playing DayZ, the pvp side of it doesn't interest me which is why you'll never have seen me at the fire fights, the other night just so happened that I was that way out so thought I'd check our old camps to see if anyone had taken them over, which it had appeared you guys did. We just had a few people in the area of the north east airfield so it wasn't a long run up to see if you returned, which you did. Then the people I was with opened fire on you and killed two of you, Hydr8 (which i assume is you?) James, which you both took the kills like men however Noodle conveniently 'lost connection' within 2seconds of the first shot being fired after running around the tents for the previous 2 minutes. Your humanity will be like that as it carries over on all the life's you've had, so you either shoot on site or you've sniped fresh spawns yourself, it doesn't just bug out to that amount, The joys of being a bandit I guess, We have no problem with you i.e actively hunting you, it just happened you was in the wrong place at the wrong time and with your guys previous actions the risk was too high for me to just walk over to you and go 'Hi I see you guys have found our old camp help yourselves'.

I tried to get into the whole "Green Mountain" joke, but it's just dumb. Nothing happens. It is not spooky or cursed. Truthfully I don't even get how it all started. I go there to try and find vehicles and I can kill all the zombies really easily. Even at night nothing happens. So why you made this thread is beyond me.

nasty admins? I don't know about nasty. But making up their own rules (which I didn't know...) and putting them above the official rules... even stating that they don't give a damn about the official rules if they feel like it... yeah, that creeps me out a little. I am really glad that you guys have this mature approach to it - don't care where we are, where our tents are etc... Hope you still think that way after we first met and only I walk away ... with your gear and vehicles :) No, I am not a bandit, I do not shoot on sight, but ... I want the heli.

Can't really weigh in on the first two, but the third: The AS50 can do 174205 damage in a shot. They may have found the gun legitimately, they may have hacked, but the gun can do that much damage when it is loaded with it's native ammunition as opposed to the m107 rounds. It's an anti-material rifle primarily used for killing vehicles, but players die from it no matter where they are hit and it is a favourite for hackers.

1. No mate you cannot ban everyone. But your clan should not be using them! It's bad darts. 2. Yes caught him doing that a few times now. In my eyes a real pro... 3. Nah noodle is a bit of a mong we were server hopping at the time (we have a camp on another server) We found what we presumed was an old camp of yours and moved some vehicles there. (Note with the server hop we are in the middle of nowhere and not doing it to gain advantage on someone) I have no problem with your clan in actual fact I think Shepster is a pretty good player. I do however hate hacked items, hackers and campers... we've cleared sniper hill outside Elecktro a few times now. If your guys killed my guys? Who is this Domain? I thought we were killed by Shepster! all 3 of us died there was no Alt-F4? If that is an old base of yours if your guys would've come down the hill and said friendly then no fighting would've took place. The fact is your clan are very aggressive and considering you labelled yourself survivors act like bandits. I am always in bandit gear which is weird because I seem to have accumulated -65,000 humanity (must be a bug). So I am constantly a target... however both the guys I was with, one has the 'hero' skin and was just gunned down no questions asked by your guys who label themselves 'surviviors' It appears it is you who have the problem you most probably saw Noodle associated him with me and shot him because of it... So I think you need to take a look at yourself! If only that were true

Logging in and out isn't the problem, the vehicle will stay where you left it, unless someone finds it. The main issue is, at least in this patch, will the vehicle still be there after the SERVER RESTART? That's the problem. Tents and vehicles are glitching hard in this patch, so be careful and be prepared to cry a little bit if you're vehicle disappears after the restart.

If you saved it, yes. Safe to save it multiple times. Though some vehicles reset in 2.5 I have read? Maybe happened to an ATV of mine.

Here in NY, the police do something akin to entrapment and it works pretty effectively. I was thinking that this could be applied to the game in order to identify and ban players who are hacking. How it is done here: Police who have multiple warrants for an individual (longstanding) send out letters addressed to the perp in the form of a contest winner. When they show up to claim their "free prize", they get arrested. Works like a charm. Here is how it can be applied in Dayz: Spawn a server that looks just like any other server. Multiple servers would work best. The trick would be to intentionally not spawn any vehicles. The first individuals to enter into a vehicle would be flagged / banned. The same could be said of certain weapons. It would have to log who the first person to use the vehicle / wep would be in order to prevent any false positives but it is a semi organic way to bait and capture hackers. I know there isnt much in the logs but it seems like something the main hive would be able to track. Hopefully the standalone wont have any of these issues but just an idea to ensnare some of these kids that were pushed off their swings by their mommies

We've lost a helicopter three times this week to disapearing vehicles .. im not mad i just repeat the following about no updates.

Little harsh on you but what three things? Hacking and duping will not be fixed in the alpha which Rocket has already admitted in multiple interviews. As I understand it duping and hacking can not really be fixed due to the mod being part of Arma and the risk that it would break aspects of the actual game that the mod is based on. The standalone is not going to be on the Arma 3 engine, it will be on a modified version of Arma 2 engine that they are calling 2.5, there is a video in this thread that has an interview on the subject http://dayzmod.com/f...rma-iii-engine/. In other interviews Rocket has even admitted that the mod is broken, so it is not like he is unaware or does not care about the problems. The only thing that could possibly be fixed in the mod is the issues with graphical glitches, but you have to understand the dayz team is not very large and their limited resources are rightfully being devoted to finishing the standalone that many of us are eagerly awaiting. If the standalone comes out and these major problems have not been reduced then it will be time for complaining, otherwise I would advise some patience. I know you see it all the time but you really do have to understand the concept of alpha testing, until it is a real game just be happy the alpha is actually public or if the glitches and bugs are just too much wait until standalone. Edit: read your original post and see the three issues you were talking about and apologize for getting off topic with hacking and duping (read so many complaint threads lately that they all melt together). The focus of the small development team is on the standalone and Rocket just finished Gamescon so the delay in fixing these issues is understandable, but two of them should be fairly easy to fix in tents and vehicles. They are going to continue patching (at least they have said that in the past) but will not be doing so as frequently, hoping they can do something about graphics bugs but less hopeful about a quick fix to that issue. Just know I feel your pain, lost a car, a heli, and two bicycles since the latest patch along with two tents filled with rare gear I actually found in a legitimate manner.

Not everyone enjoys the bugged .5 servers. Aka, Tents/vehicles not saving. Vehicles turning into buses. etc...

Hey Maromite, Thanks for the server. We're a small group (3-4) we play on 2135. Just a small issue sometimes after a restart the server doesn't seem to have vehicles or tents. Anyways thanks man

It adds a nice little challenge to the task if you ask me. Its VERY much like real life if we were dependant on survival. But also very much like real life, those that choose to take the criminally minded route to survival, will be utterly alone while the rest provide for eachother in growing numbers. Even clans on the fence about who to kill on sight or clans of bandits (that have standards like killing to survive, not to be an ass) stick together as a community. The fact has been stated multiple times, and its quite simple. Taking out medics wont solve your problem. The majority of the people needing help are broken legs or wounded from the hard life on Chernorus and it only grows the passion people have to help others wronged by a selfish bandit. Technically you should be going to the root of the problem. You say medics heal those that are shot by bandits and those not killed (because you have poor marksmanship) log out only to be helped by medics. However, medics dont ask why/how and will help anyone. You really should be taking out your fellow bandits. They are the reason people lot out after being shot unprovoked (most poorly armed newbs), which then need to be healed by a non-partisan medic. Moral of the story....kill all bandits. Bandits should kill bandits as primary targets before killing survivors and medics. They will have the best weapons (from looting players), good control over certain areas because they literally have nothign to lose and go looking for fights, will horde equipment/vehicles and all the best camp sites.