dallas 5195 Posted October 10, 2012 I like it, if your friends don't die, you have to wait hours to respawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbrunk 114 Posted October 10, 2012 I think it would be awesome in the standalone, if you had the option to spawn in a random server, with a random low end weapon, in a wave of other random strangers on the shores of chernarus. The group of lets say 4-8 people could choose to:go there separate waysduke it out right thereteam up for a bitMaybe there would be 15 seconds of time to chat before everybody spawned, during which people could introduce themselves and talk about their intentions. Possibly their microphones would be automatically engaged so talking would be encouraged. I think this mode would increase player choice, and add an element of randomness to the game. Either extreme, of duking it out immediately on spawn, or going off to loot a city together would be loads of fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) ^ That is no. There would just be deathmatch for 99% of the spawns.I have mixed opinions on this idea, but let's look at it this way. DayZ is trying to set the feeling of "You've washed ashore on this island, now go.". If you look at the situation from that kind of perspective, the ability to choose who you spawn with seems kind of silly. I mean, realistically, it's ridiculous to expect you and that perfect group are going to wash up near each other. And yes, I know overall this is just a game, and it would usually be an expected online feature, but I feel it somewhat breaks that immersion DayZ is trying to set.Just my two cents.How about "You've washed ashore on this island togethet, now go" ?You were sailing with a friend? plane "crash" of a holiday with a group of friends(more emergency landing) Shipwreck near the shore?Doesnt seem too "rediculous"?Original story is open, but I gues you are coming from somekind of a wreck when you wash ashore, to me its rediculous that you are the only one from it. Even if your friend is from the same wreck and spawn 20km away on other side of the island...that seems rediculous, strong seacurrents. Maybe in 0-2km from your point but hell.And even more if they decide to add more spawnpoints, not only the shoreline... but maybe in woods and shit, you could have been there with a friends. In some cabin with group of friends?not rediculous...And even if the people are RL friends it doesnt make it "perfect" group, and when you are not geared and wont be good geared for long time cant see any problems with this... And this would be rare scenario anyway, maybe once or twice in a month or so. Most of the time I woudnt be waiting for my friend to die too(depending of the situation) to spawn again, most of the time it will be still faster to run alone and catch up but its an option with no advantages, still cant see why people are against it... Edited October 10, 2012 by Zeppa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hetstaine 10852 Posted October 10, 2012 Because ,imo, it goes against the grain of the game. You . Are . Alone. Its like wanting to add the mak back. A lot of people just cannot get out of the mindset of how other games work so this one should work like them too. Fuck that shit ! It has been done to death. If cruising alone for a maximum of twenty minutes ( if two of you spawn at the furthest spawn point, Kamenka and Sol ) is too hard/ tedious/annoying then you are playing the wrong fucking game :) If you are teamed up or planning to team up then you are on TS , Skype whatever so its not like you are 'lost'. Half of the interest is making to each other and the journey on the way. Once you have teamed up it makes it more crucial not to die , especially if you head inland. Starting off alone deprives you of another set of eyes so it is harder, it also encourages you to look after yourself so you can make the meeting point. The initial basis of the game and one of the big reasons why it took off is because you are alone. From there it is up to you. Its a hard pill for many to swallow it seems. I hope Rocket sticks to his guns on this one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeppa 562 Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Rocket have said him self that he have been thinking about he group spawn. So what is his idea, we dont know.And that "alone" part was exciting at the very first spawn, after few it just gets dull. And same argument goes another way too, same and ever more excitement could be with a friend.. you have seen the group gunfight videos from you tube when everyone is screaming and crying, that is hard to make alone. So there is that.And I personally am not supporting this because its already in other games... cant think of any atm, bf3 and shit doesnt count where its nobrainer..Its not about spawning apart, its about having an option.. new dimension.Some people doesnt seem to see the other side of this eighter, it doesnt unbalance the game in anyway. You could still spawnalone if you like, hell that even could be a "tactic" to gain more and better gear for you group as you can loot more cities..Even spawning together as a group gives more eyes, it give more meat to loose and hide.. watching other ones back.I dont think spawning alone isnt THE factor why the game took of.. it was the whole concept, mostly the permadeath and large map to explore, search for items food and the zeds. Spawning alone imo is only very very small part of it, as said spawning as group could be same kind of part of the whole, new adventure if you wish.And I like when we are not ripping each others head of in this topic, even tho there is slight smell of sarcasm. Edited October 10, 2012 by Zeppa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrShift 0 Posted January 30, 2013 Rocket have said him self that he have been thinking about he group spawn. So what is his idea, we dont know.And that "alone" part was exciting at the very first spawn, after few it just gets dull. And same argument goes another way too, same and ever more excitement could be with a friend.. you have seen the group gunfight videos from you tube when everyone is screaming and crying, that is hard to make alone. So there is that.And I personally am not supporting this because its already in other games... cant think of any atm, bf3 and shit doesnt count where its nobrainer..Its not about spawning apart, its about having an option.. new dimension.Some people doesnt seem to see the other side of this eighter, it doesnt unbalance the game in anyway. You could still spawnalone if you like, hell that even could be a "tactic" to gain more and better gear for you group as you can loot more cities..Even spawning together as a group gives more eyes, it give more meat to loose and hide.. watching other ones back.I dont think spawning alone isnt THE factor why the game took of.. it was the whole concept, mostly the permadeath and large map to explore, search for items food and the zeds. Spawning alone imo is only very very small part of it, as said spawning as group could be same kind of part of the whole, new adventure if you wish.And I like when we are not ripping each others head of in this topic, even tho there is slight smell of sarcasm.I agree with you, I would like a spawn with friend option. For me it would be OK to run for maybe 3-5 minutes but more than that is just stupid. If I want to play with my friend why should it take 30-60 minutes to get to him.And spawning with friend should only be available when you are a fresh spawn, both you and you friends. In that way there is no advantage. Just more fun. And in my opinion a group you should only be able to spawn max 3 friends in a radius of a few km.That way if you are 2-3 people you can spawn together. If you are 4 or more you have to split up so for example you spawn 2 in cherno and 2 in komorovo... that way you are not alone.Spawning far away from others would be acceptable if there were alot of bicycles so that you find them all over and can move around more. Finding bicycles are in my opinion realistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Private Evans 1303 Posted January 30, 2013 I agree with you, I would like a spawn with friend option. For me it would be OK to run for maybe 3-5 minutes but more than that is just stupid. If I want to play with my friend why should it take 30-60 minutes to get to him.And spawning with friend should only be available when you are a fresh spawn, both you and you friends. In that way there is no advantage. Just more fun. And in my opinion a group you should only be able to spawn max 3 friends in a radius of a few km.That way if you are 2-3 people you can spawn together. If you are 4 or more you have to split up so for example you spawn 2 in cherno and 2 in komorovo... that way you are not alone.Spawning far away from others would be acceptable if there were alot of bicycles so that you find them all over and can move around more. Finding bicycles are in my opinion realistic.I also would love to get some hot coffee and cookies at the beach....hmmm we also could arrange a bus shuttle service and later on we will have a nice barbecue before we go to have some nice squad shoot outs...I love the end of the world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terminal_boy 860 Posted January 30, 2013 I'm against this as it promotes the team deathmatch style of play and KOS mentality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mos1ey 6301 Posted January 30, 2013 I wouldn't really oppose group spawning on the condition that...1) All players spawning together are fresh spawns, there should be no teleporting to your friends.2) Groups larger than 4 should have x chance of being split up and spawning in multiple groups.3) Spawn points are still completely random.I'm absolutely fine with the current spawn system though, it just adds to the challenge. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoj0 (DayZ) 31 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Why not... I dont get why people are so against this... if group dies why woudnt they able to spawn together if they are ALL dead.And for first spawn, how come every survivor "wakes up" alone?Washed up on shore alone, why not in a lifeboat with a group of mates?Ofc you shoudnt be able to spawn ON someone, that would be retarted.. but I dont see problem with spawning with friend or two?Why would it be a problem for someone?Rocket said he had tought something like this.You wont gain anything from it, you will only be a bigger target for people and it would be harder for group to go stealth through towns. Specially thinking standalone as the zeds will be more of threat you could be better of alone, but why not grant the change to spawn with a friend for someone who wants to.Its the same if you just ran to each other or find some random dude... hello.I kind of agree, if you all start with absolutely nothing then spawning as a group shouldn't really be an issue. and like he said, you should be able to spawn on your friend sitting at the south barracks because a DMR spawned or something. but if everyone is starting fresh, it shouldn't be an issue.I'm against this as it promotes the team deathmatch style of play and KOS mentality.I think it makes group play better, right now if you join a server by yourself, and you dont know anyone, from most of the servers i've seen people kill on sight, I try to communicate but if someone is moving directly at me and is armed, ill just kill em, better them then me, it promotes group play more then it does it right now ill say that much. Edited January 30, 2013 by Hoj0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CreepySalad 108 Posted January 30, 2013 Group spawning thread pls goGets rid of the challenge of finding your friends,Makes the game eaiser by starting out with more people to defend you.No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
law1977 17 Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) I am right in the middle of this argument and can see both sides of the thing, when I first started playing Dayz, it was kind of epic to discuss with your mates where you are and try to find a location where you can all meet up. It was good fun (my map reading skills are actually not as good as I first thought!!). Anyways, after trying and dieing a couple of times you sometimes wish you could all group together and play with your mates, the game is quality on your own but with mates together its one of the best co-op games I have ever played.So from a pure gameplay, nothing to do with realism i think small groups of people can spawn near ish to each other say 1km between each other ish, you can then group up with mates and go your merry way for further adventures (after a bit of organising).Like someone said if you were in a boat and you all got shipwrecked you could use that as a way to say why you all end up roughly near each other and keep some realism still.GAH i cannot decide but I hate to sit on the fence so I would say a group spawn of the maximum of 4 people (sort of small boat size) with a good bit of random landings. When I played after first few deaths we just kept re spawning into we were nearish to each other (same side of the coast) anyways. So having this option would make it a bit easier for new people getting to grips with the game and play with there friends from the off.Clue all the realism people to call me names!! I am just saying from a gaming experience with mates I would find this feature handy, if its not in there when the game comes out its no great loss. MY gut feeling says it won`t be in SA, so back to 2 hours of looking for each other which I am sure will cause some interesting arguments over teamspeak/skype. As follows:-person 1: right i`m at the villageperson 2: me to i`m on the hillp1 : what hillp2 : the hill above the town !!p1 : the town is on top of the hill (spins around confused)p2 : no its in a valleyp1 : *"!$ (consults map)p2 : you are in the wrong bloody place aren`t you!!!!!!!p1 : mmmaayyyybbbee (turns map right way up)P2 : titp3 : hill, what about the radio towerp2: (sighs)p1 : meet at stary?p2 : thats the other side of the mapp1 : not from where I am standing...p2 : &!"^ and you really are a £!£!p3 : seriously big tower!!p2 :(sobs quietly)this maybe based slightly on fact *hangs head in shame* Edited January 30, 2013 by law1977 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites