Using Hacked Weapons May Give You Global Ban

[Zombie Jesus 723]

I'm not upset for being burned at all. I learned something today. Sorry not everyone takes criticism of their opinion or story as a personal attack. I clearly am missing something from my friends side of the story if Rocket said they are fair game and there is no way BattleEye would give out a ban. Next time I see an AS50 TWS I will pick it up, which is quite often in my opinion.

Is it really that rare someone admits they are in the wrong on here? So rare that everyone comes at you like you should be all butt hurt about what you said?

I doubt Rocket said everyone should pick up cheap ass weapons like the AS50 Thermal and if he did I can say I do not agree with that sentiment. I have been on a bandit kick lately but I have some morals, that gun is cheap as hell and anyone who uses it is cheap as well.

[OrLoK 16185]

My buddy got a global ban a couple days ago for using an AS-50 TWS (Thermal AS50) and tried to appeal it since he figured it was a false positive, but was denied by Battle-eye.

Hello there

Sure it was your buddy? If it truly was, how could you be 100pc sure?

Regardless, as others have said he may not be banned for action right at the moment of the ban, it may have been hanging over him for a while. Easier to mass catch out scripters that way.

rgds

LoK

[dallas 5195]

Anyone who picks up a AS50 TWS knows it's hacked and gamebreaking OP.

The innocent bambies you talk about are busy searching for axes and empty tin cans.

[manowar 19]

A scripted in machine gun or other large weapon will not allow you to hold a backpack a few weeks ago I saw a guy named Owner (of course it would be one of those people) that had an M249 saw and I took it after I axed him and it wouldnt let me hold a backpack without dropping it. I also picked up an as50 tws last night after I murderized a hacker because he had friends and I needed it to kill them to because I ran out of revolver ammo but I didnt have a backpack so im not sure if that also disallows you to use backpacks.

Edited September 11, 2012 by Dantan the Great

[manowar 19]

this was the hacker that I got the gun from and teleport killed me to get it back http://imgur.com/tRsGi

Edited September 11, 2012 by Dantan the Great

[daze23 549]

Oh how I wish using hacked weapons would get you banned. Would love a warning system "You have logged on with a hacked item [AS50 TWS] please drop it this is your final warning" So many problems solved.

the server I play on now bans people for having hacked weapons (not a 'global' ban though). when you sign on, the first message that comes up says something like "do not play here with hacked weapons, this is your only warning". and constantly while I'm playing people are getting banned for having pdw sd, g36, etc. it also kicks people left and right for various scripts

all that is the reason I like that server

[daze23 549]

I doubt Rocket said everyone should pick up cheap ass weapons like the AS50 Thermal and if he did I can say I do not agree with that sentiment. I have been on a bandit kick lately but I have some morals, that gun is cheap as hell and anyone who uses it is cheap as well.

rocket talked about it back in june, before hacking was that bad. there were also way less servers back then, so it might have been a big deal if you got banned from a server

and honestly I'm sure people do get server banned while not knowing the weapon they had wasn't in the game. but it should be a wake up call that you were doing something wrong, to become aware of the weapons that aren't supposed to be in the game, and to stay away from them

Edited September 11, 2012 by daze23

[Ajvkorn 72]

Well that's quite silly thing you have just posted, isn't it.

Admins of servers can check when someone has injected a script, although sometimes it gives false positives and hackers have found ways to have other players inject scripts for them meaning global bans are a bad idea. Through this method we know what is and what is not a legit spawn. Obviously this only works on a server with active admins, and the scripter can jump to a new server with his gear and no one will know then. But in honesty you're still wrong.

Are you a server admin? Because from my understanding it is not just so easy that an admin can go into the files and find out if a weapon is scripted in. They have to go through all the lines of coding to see if a weapon was scripted in and even then an admin is not going to ban somebody for using a scripted in weapon, UNLESS it is a banned weapon(such as the as50 tws). The guy you quoted is no way wrong, in fact you are wrong. And just because an ADMIN knows if a weapon is scripted in doesn't mean the player does.

[adamtheheretic 106]

Are you a server admin? Because from my understanding it is not just so easy that an admin can go into the files and find out if a weapon is scripted in. They have to go through all the lines of coding to see if a weapon was scripted in and even then an admin is not going to ban somebody for using a scripted in weapon, UNLESS it is a banned weapon(such as the as50 tws). The guy you quoted is no way wrong, in fact you are wrong. And just because an ADMIN knows if a weapon is scripted in doesn't mean the player does.

An admin does have to go through lines of code but they can find out exactly who the person who injected the script if they know what time the items were spawned, and they know if a weapon is scripted in and they know who has done it (or at least they used to, the newer scripts show an innocent player as the scripter which is why I said global bans are a bad idea). In what way am I wrong? And a player doesn't need to know if a weapon is spawned in, did I say that? I just pointed out that admins know if a weapon has been spawned in, removing the script kiddie is the main issue, someone using an overpowered weapon doesn't bother me in alpha.

[rybo 171]

My favorite retards are the ones that think Ban=hacker without a doubt. Its a lot closer to Ban=Battleye needs new management.

[Nibl 3]

I was one of the people who got banned on the first false-positive ban wave, then they unbanned me. Now I got banned again two days ago on that ban wave, nice. I've never scripted or downloaded anything suspicious. They didn't reply to either of my emails, what the actual fuck?

EDIT: I play with a group of 4 and none of them are banned.

Edited September 11, 2012 by Nibl

[Dankine 377]

mhm

[jordan2412 60]

What if the guy picked it up on the ground, but several players reported him to BE for hacking, could that get him banned? I assume BE has a report page to report cheaters.

[dallas 5195]

1. OP learns that it's not possible to get banned for picking up hacked weapons, which means his friend hacked and lied about it.

2. The lesson OP draws from this thread isn't that hacking is bad, just that he should pick up over powered hacked in weapons.

[Dankine 377]

What if the guy picked it up on the ground, but several players reported him to BE for hacking, could that get him banned? I assume BE has a report page to report cheaters.

fairly sure you need to submit logs.