Another "I quit because..."

[PvtBeaner 29]

1. Fair enough. However that's the point of a thread. You read some opinions, you state your own, then you hover around the thread for more opinions if you wish.

2. I may sound harsh here, but multiple threads on the same thing just annoys everyone and buries the threads that others may be interested in reading. I also dont see how multiple threads that hit 2 pages are more effectived to get noticed than 1 huge thread with 40 pages

Noted. I will admit part of why I posted this was for the opportunity to defend my points, which I would get more of here than in a circle-jerky massive thread.

[Xxav 10]

There's nothing else to do in the game currently. When they add leader boards and base building, things will hopefully change.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

Anyone who think this forum is the worst they have seen can't possibly have participated in very many forums. There are far more legitimate and nearly-legitimate conversations going on here than any online game I've played in the last 15 years. Plenty of flaming, and plenty of ideas being shot down (usually the awful ones), but also a fair amount of decent discussion.

Go try to have one of those on the WoW forums. See what happens. I *dare* you.

For example, I think this game is far to PvP heavy.

And I think coffee is better than tea. But, if I walked into a tea-house and started shouting that at people, I would fully expect to get "flamed" and "shot down."

DayZ is a PvP game. It's meant to be "heavy" with it.

If that upsets you, perhaps your time would be better spent finding a game more suited to your desires than sitting on the DayZ forums?

The reason you're being flamed isn't because the "community is awful" it's because your ideas are anathema to the spirit of the title.

[PvtBeaner 29]

we'll you'd be wrong.. i've played the game enough to know, it's a cruel and punishing world in Chernarus, you're going to die - i've died more times than I care to remember to sniper bullets , but i've learned to take my death - even those by hackers & the millions of different glitches... do you see me crying? all the OP can do is learn the Dayz mantra "death is inevitable.. don't become attached to your gear."

Although you think you are doing the right thing, I believe you are only perpetuating the cycle. Instead of advocating change you are pretty well saying "It sucks, but i push through it." Which is fair enough, but by accepting it how it is now is insuring it will stay that way forever.

[tinit 54]

I started playing this game because I loved the idea of it. A zombie survival game in an open sandbox environment, it all seemed very nice. The game itself is a great idea, and implements most of what it is trying to do very well.

Unfortunately, the community is awful. I have played many games and been part of many more online boards, yet I find this one to be the most immature and disrespectful. Nearly every post is flamed and every opinion is shot down. No one feels welcome here and this carries over into the game. The players have taken what could be a fun game and turned it into complete shit. I have watched nearly all of Rocket's interviews and from what I can gather he invests heavily in what the community wants. However, within the community, anyone who disagrees with a part of the game is immediately shot down.

For example, I think this game is far to PvP heavy. I just love all of those snipers camping outside of Elektro calling themselves bandits while shooting anything that moves. This does not add to the game in any way. Those players never loot the bodies and gain nothing by killing a starting player. If your argument for this is "Once you get to endgame there is nothing else to do," allow me to break it down for you. You could 1: attempt to add something to the game by being a character of sorts; take people hostage, scare people, loot people at gunpoint. 2: If you don't wish to add anything to the gameplay you can always... go outside, or play something else.

I know this will be shot down by the usual active members of the forum (closed minded individuals with little of value to say) but think of what this mod was designed to be. Now realize what it has actually become. DayZ is a deathmatch with an extra long loading screen.

I started playing this game because I loved the idea of it. A zombie survival game in an open sandbox environment, it all seemed very nice. The game itself is a great idea, and implements most of what it is trying to do very well.

Unfortunately, the community is awful. I have played many games and been part of many more online boards, yet I find this one to be the most immature and disrespectful. Nearly every post is flamed and every opinion is shot down. No one feels welcome here and this carries over into the game. The players have taken what could be a fun game and turned it into complete shit. I have watched nearly all of Rocket's interviews and from what I can gather he invests heavily in what the community wants. However, within the community, anyone who disagrees with a part of the game is immediately shot down.

For example, I think this game is far to PvP heavy. I just love all of those snipers camping outside of Elektro calling themselves bandits while shooting anything that moves. This does not add to the game in any way. Those players never loot the bodies and gain nothing by killing a starting player. If your argument for this is "Once you get to endgame there is nothing else to do," allow me to break it down for you. You could 1: attempt to add something to the game by being a character of sorts; take people hostage, scare people, loot people at gunpoint. 2: If you don't wish to add anything to the gameplay you can always... go outside, or play something else.

I know this will be shot down by the usual active members of the forum (closed minded individuals with little of value to say) but think of what this mod was designed to be. Now realize what it has actually become. DayZ is a deathmatch with an extra long loading screen.

as if anyone cares your quitting or why

[irl-calibre 744]

Although you think you are doing the right thing, I believe you are only perpetuating the cycle. Instead of advocating change you are pretty well saying "It sucks, but i push through it." Which is fair enough, but by accepting it how it is now is insuring it will stay that way forever.

no.. al I see is another bean eater, crying because they got shot by a sniper in Elektro - what difference is this thread going to make that the other half a million thread's posted by bean eaters complaining about dieing in a PvP Chernarus hot spot that are allready posted in the forums? eh? none.. thats what..

[gizm0 96]

as if anyone cares your quitting or why

I do because I can see what is a more common cause to why players leave and why they stay. So far a majority of players that have left in recent or at least by those posting threads, have been due to hackers, and the rest have been those fed up with a sandbox with only tools to kill each other.

[PvtBeaner 29]

Anyone who think this forum is the worst they have seen can't possibly have participated in very many forums. There are far more legitimate and nearly-legitimate conversations going on here than any online game I've played in the last 15 years. Plenty of flaming, and plenty of ideas being shot down (usually the awful ones), but also a fair amount of decent discussion.

Go try to have one of those on the WoW forums. See what happens. I *dare* you.

And I think coffee is better than tea. But, if I walked into a tea-house and started shouting that at people, I would fully expect to get "flamed" and "shot down."

DayZ is a PvP game. It's meant to be "heavy" with it.

If that upsets you, perhaps your time would be better spent finding a game more suited to your desires than sitting on the DayZ forums?

The reason you're being flamed isn't because the "community is awful" it's because your ideas are anathema to the spirit of the title.

Allow me to rephrase. I don't so much mean the PvP is too heavy, but more so, the way it is carried out is unintelligent. The PvP such as it is now isn't adding very much to the experience. I shoot you, you shoot me, if you ever so much as see another player in the game, armed or not, immediately destroy them. Of course the game needs bandits and hero's, such is real life, but the way it is happening right now isn't functional or sustainable.

[PvtBeaner 29]

as if anyone cares your quitting or why

This is hilarious, being in development it is very important to note what kind of player leaves and why. Stating what you said above only shows you have no interest in creating a fun game or interest in the game at all. Judging by the replies at least one person cares, and clearly the person who is too lazy to write a complete sentence is not my target audience.

Edited August 21, 2012 by PvtBeaner

[Mos1ey 6301]

i recently reached the "end game" simply by stumbling across a body of a hacker. spent the next 10 in game days surviving off the land. I hadn't even fired a shot from my illegal AS50 TWS. Until yesterday i decided i needed to pop my cherry. So decided im too noob to take on the cherno/elektro bro's, so though i'd camp Komaravo and balota instead. True enough my first kill came within the hour, the second and third shortly after. Actually the most rewarding experience one-shotting someone 650m away, only bettered when you find your first weapon when you play for the first time. It doesn't matter that he's running in a straight line, with his flashlight out across the open plains. Or ghilli'd up, proning his way through the underbush, they all die the same.

This cool story was bought to you by Bro corp.

Genuinely cringed while reading this...

Too noob to take on the fresh spawns in Cherno, better head over to Kamenka and make sure theyve only got a flashlight...

[PvtBeaner 29]

no.. al I see is another bean eater, crying because they got shot by a sniper in Elektro - what difference is this thread going to make that the other half a million thread's posted by bean eaters complaining about dieing in a PvP Chernarus hot spot that are allready posted in the forums? eh? none.. thats what..

I didn't just get shot in Elektro and come here. I have played that game for many many hours, I have had camps, vehicles, the best gear in the game, and done nearly everything possible. Helped people, killed people and died in every way imaginable. Again, my post isn't targeting the one sniper who killed me one time, it is directed at the playerbase as a whole.

[lian442 16]

as if anyone cares your quitting or why

This is the perfect example of the rotten community.

[FFrank 18]

PvtBeaner I really admire how you try to reply to the close-minded guys you've mentioned in your original posting.

I've lately noticed many kids talking on directchat so maybe the immature part of the community is rising up leading to a more and more immature community. Just guessing.

I share your thoughts about PvP, it's not adding anything right now, as you said "i shoot you, you shoot me". Really appreciate your efforts but I think it will take some time until all the rotten apples fall down from the tree called "community".

[Dankine 377]

love how he praises the fact it is a sandbox, and then bitches because people play it how they like. there is nothing wrong with killing on sight, backstabbing people etc. stop crying. carebear players much.

Edited August 21, 2012 by Dankine

[Sol (DayZ) 132]

The title says it all. ANOTHER "I quit because" thread. You knew there were many other topics like this, yet you felt complied to make another one. ​ Because those threads weren't about you were they? No, you're SPECIAL and MORE IMPORTANT then they are!

News flash: You're not. You're just another fucking nobody on the internet just like all the other wastes of carbon that make these shit posts.I won't give a shit if you got run over by a bus today, so why would I care if you've stopped playing a computer game?

love how he praises the fact it is a sandbox, and then bitches because people play it how they like. there is nothing wrong with killing on sight, backstabbing people etc. stop crying. carebear players much.

as if anyone cares your quitting or why

Well done.

You are all sterling examples of EXACTLY what the OP was talking about.

Congratulations on living up to the expectation that is, the DayZ general community.

I think the problem is, you all missed that actual point that OP was trying to make... try reading again, it's like the second sentence in... you know, the typical way that English statements are constructed. He says "Unfortunately, the community is awful." All the crap you guys are moaning about was really irrelevant to the main point. Good job on picking the least important part of the post and making a perfect example out of yourself for our amusement.

~Sol

Edited August 21, 2012 by Sol

[PvtBeaner 29]

love how he praises the fact it is a sandbox, and then bitches because people play it how they like. there is nothing wrong with killing on sight, backstabbing people etc. stop crying. carebear players much.

I don't know who you are or why you can't type properly but hear me out. I understand this is a sandbox and it is free roam etc. But many player are abusing this idea and using it as an excuse. I understand, killing on sight if you are caught off guard, I condone backstabbing and any other interesting tactics. But grabbing a high-powered rifle and seeing how many players you can take out before you die isn't really a valid play style. You are not really playing the game or exploring any of the mechanics you are just irritating those player around you.

If you are truely at a loss for anything else to do than congratulations, you have done all you can in the mod at this present time. Please check back in later when there is new content, because as of now your are not letting new players experience the game in the same way you enjoyed it when you started. This applies 100x over for hackers.

Edited August 21, 2012 by PvtBeaner

[Jex =TE= (DayZ) 218]

The title says it all. ANOTHER "I quit because" thread. You knew there were many other topics like this, yet you felt complied to make another one. ​ Because those threads weren't about you were they? No, you're SPECIAL and MORE IMPORTANT then they are!

News flash: You're not. You're just another fucking nobody on the internet just like all the other wastes of carbon that make these shit posts.I won't give a shit if you got run over by a bus today, so why would I care if you've stopped playing a computer game?

Why did u bother clicking the link to come into this thread then?

[Dankine 377]

I don't know who you are or why you can't type properly but hear me out. I understand this is a sandbox and it is free roam etc. But many player are abusing this idea and using it as an excuse. I understand, killing on sight if you are caught off guard, I condone backstabbing and any other interesting tactics. But grabbing a high-powered rifle and seeing how many players you can take out before you die isn't really a valid play style. You are not really playing the game or exploring any of the mechanics you are just irritating those player around you.

If you are truely at a loss for anything else to do than congratulations, you have done all you can in the mod at this present time. Please check back in later when there is new content, because as of now your are not letting new players experience the game in the same way you enjoyed it when you started. This applies 100x over for hackers.

cry more, you carebear fuck :)

don't bitch at someone about typing (when my post was fine) and then write dross like that.

[user warned, 24 hours PPS. -Max]

Edited August 21, 2012 by Max Planck

[Sol (DayZ) 132]

cry more, you carebear fuck :)

don't bitch at someone about typing (when my post was fine) and then write dross like that.

Reported for abuse.

~Sol

[HighPiez 59]

Its my fault man, i played to much CoD4 and BF3 and have to shoot at everything, cows, chickens, goats? all dead. Joking aside, its a sandbox game, if i wanna run around killing everything in my path i can and on to your post

You said: But think of what this mod was designed to be. Now realize what it has actually become.

Rocket said in recent interview: because we’re multiplayer and PvP focused.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/17/day-z-standalone/

So where is the problem? You the problem since it doesn't suite what you want. Sandbox games become what the community want (take a look at eve or mincecraft), if the community wants to deathmatch then so be it, but cause you don't like it over the majority now everything is wrong? please.

P.S go ahead and check on LoL forums, HoN, CoD or BF3 forums if you want to see what immature / disrespectful is.

Edited August 21, 2012 by HighPiez

[tsmhicks 52]

I completely understand OPs issues, but its Alpha and core components are still being developed so gameplay will be changing over the years, hell even the stand alone is starting in an Alpha for so ya. Here is my 2cents experience on what I have seen this game come from to what it is now.

*WARNING LONG POST*

When this mod first came out it was an experience myself and my group had never experienced before. We have played ARMA2 for awhile now so, we knew this map pretty well, but we still felt lost and unsure on what to do, how and where we go and what to do. ALMOST EVERYONES first week of playing should be like this without the consequence of getting capped near a town like Elektro or Cherno. I know for atleast 4 weeks I never died nor did I just shoot at anyone. Everyone early on was like "wtf is this, yo dude can you help me. Man these zombies are scary as fuck (as u go prone next to them)" . The immersion was so insane and it made you addicted.

Finally we find an airfield, still not getting into firefight at this point, and we find a DMR. WOW A SNIPER! *FAP FAP FAP*. Our first thought wasn't to kill each other or anything, but felt safer that we had a sniper now in our group. THe game is still early alpha and not a single "BIG" youtuber had even heard of it or had interest in it nor did popular websites like 4chan, reddit, etc. Finally after about a month more people started to hear about this mod and it got server populated pretty fast. We encountered a bandit for the first time. We killed him and was like wow that was close. But that moment stuck with us forever. He didn't tell us to stop moving he just saw my group of 5 and started shooting. From there on we said to ourselves, "trust no1". So we ended up going up and down the coast line and ran into 3 dudes. Both groups halting and freaking out BUT STILL NOT SHOOTING. After about 15min of talking back and forth we recruited them into our group. NOW we are running 12 -14 guys deep nightly on a server.

Now early on food and water was so easy to get, you never had to worry. Now I feel like food and water are more scarce and harder to get ahold of, so we as a team designate peopel roles for ammo, weapons, food, water, medical supplies etc. THis type of immersion has never happened in a game before. Also during this time there was no vehicles so we just went to airfield looking for endgame gear and getting into small skirmishes, but the experience was different everytime

NOW lets jump to now. Now there are over 1million UID and 1k's of servers. So a new player spawns on shore gets killed 5min into going into elektro and cherno without warning, without help, without mercy. No1 helps eachother. No1 is patient to group up. Everything is SHoot then ask questions. No1 groups up unless your friends. Endgame gear has been duped / hacked in so much that there is a huge influx of endgame gear circulating the mod. Was it expected? Yes, definately since Arma2 is a scripted based game. We who played early on knew this would happen but not as bad as it is now. I mean just last night, I spawn on coast, go into cherno, kill a guy with my axe and get all gear and a hacked as50 thermal (cool btw but fucking lame). I burry the body so no1 can get this gear again. I drop all the hacked items and end gear in water and wait for it to dissapear. No one chooses to be a hero (majority of the players). Everyone is running around using as50, m107, NVGs, etc is all starter towns killing new players and its Bullshit. So now sicne my group is tired of this faggotry, we decided that all 12 of us will slowly purge the campers of these towns. We go into servers in our secret spots (NO not ontop of cherno factories, thats too obvious and everyone spawns there hahah) and we kill these people and hide their bodies without looting them.

I personally think until a good dupe fix is out and DB is wiped clean to start all gear and players clean this type of gameplay will continue. Hacking cant and wont be stopped since only battle eye can do that. Its in alpha stage, yes I get that which is why i and many others suggest a HIVE wipe and start everyone over clean again. If there is more risk in losing weapons and gear becasue duping is fixed the best of its ability people might find out how to play this game. Will gear get duped and circulated again? Yes of course, but it will be slower since everyone will be starting fresh with NOTHING and nothing saved etc.

TL version : Game/mod was awesome and best immersive gameplay before it got so popular. Now just a fag fest of noobs thinking its funny to shoot then ask questions. Solution: Fix duping to best ability and wipe DB/HIVE and have everyone start completely over 1) better data gathering 2)People learn and see how game is supposed to be played.

Also not meaning to plug my buddies videos, but he captures all the moments from early on that NO ONE ever gets anymore EVER

This video is the very famous "Battle at Devils Castle" that many people here on DayZ Forums has seen. This was a large battle we secretly organized for 7 hours. This was also when Dsyncing was so bad that you moved it desync'd so it might seem "bad" but the mod was uh haha not smmoth, but the experience was just so insane I feel bad for those unable to be able to get this

Also here is his playlist with all early footage

Edited August 21, 2012 by Hicks16

[PvtBeaner 29]

cry more, you carebear fuck :)

don't bitch at someone about typing (when my post was fine) and then write dross like that.

If you see nothing wrong with the way you write than you should spend more time at school and less time being an immature twat.

[user warned. -Max]

Edited August 21, 2012 by Max Planck
Don't get personal, report instead.

[PvtBeaner 29]

I completely understand OPs issues, but its Alpha and core components are still being developed so gameplay will be changing over the years, hell even the stand alone is starting in an Alpha for so ya. Here is my 2cents experience on what I have seen this game come from to what it is now.

*WARNING LONG POST*

When this mod first came out it was an experience myself and my group had never experienced before. We have played ARMA2 for awhile now so, we knew this map pretty well, but we still felt lost and unsure on what to do, how and where we go and what to do. ALMOST EVERYONES first week of playing should be like this without the consequence of getting capped near a town like Elektro or Cherno. I know for atleast 4 weeks I never died nor did I just shoot at anyone. Everyone early on was like "wtf is this, yo dude can you help me. Man these zombies are scary as fuck (as u go prone next to them)" . The immersion was so insane and it made you addicted.

Finally we find an airfield, still not getting into firefight at this point, and we find a DMR. WOW A SNIPER! *FAP FAP FAP*. Our first thought wasn't to kill each other or anything, but felt safer that we had a sniper now in our group. THe game is still early alpha and not a single "BIG" youtuber had even heard of it or had interest in it nor did popular websites like 4chan, reddit, etc. Finally after about a month more people started to hear about this mod and it got server populated pretty fast. We encountered a bandit for the first time. We killed him and was like wow that was close. But that moment stuck with us forever. He didn't tell us to stop moving he just saw my group of 5 and started shooting. From there on we said to ourselves, "trust no1". So we ended up going up and down the coast line and ran into 3 dudes. Both groups halting and freaking out BUT STILL NOT SHOOTING. After about 15min of talking back and forth we recruited them into our group. NOW we are running 12 -14 guys deep nightly on a server.

Now early on food and water was so easy to get, you never had to worry. Now I feel like food and water are more scarce and harder to get ahold of, so we as a team designate peopel roles for ammo, weapons, food, water, medical supplies etc. THis type of immersion has never happened in a game before. Also during this time there was no vehicles so we just went to airfield looking for endgame gear and getting into small skirmishes, but the experience was different everytime

NOW lets jump to now. Now there are over 1million UID and 1k's of servers. So a new player spawns on shore gets killed 5min into going into elektro and cherno without warning, without help, without mercy. No1 helps eachother. No1 is patient to group up. Everything is SHoot then ask questions. No1 groups up unless your friends. Endgame gear has been duped / hacked in so much that there is a huge influx of endgame gear circulating the mod. Was it expected? Yes, definately since Arma2 is a scripted based game. We who played early on knew this would happen but not as bad as it is now. I mean just last night, I spawn on coast, go into cherno, kill a guy with my axe and get all gear and a hacked as50 thermal (cool btw but fucking lame). I burry the body so no1 can get this gear again. I drop all the hacked items and end gear in water and wait for it to dissapear. No one chooses to be a hero (majority of the players). Everyone is running around using as50, m107, NVGs, etc is all starter towns killing new players and its Bullshit. So now sicne my group is tired of this faggotry, we decided that all 12 of us will slowly purge the campers of these towns. We go into servers in our secret spots (NO not ontop of cherno factories, thats too obvious and everyone spawns there hahah) and we kill these people and hide their bodies without looting them.

I personally think until a good dupe fix is out and DB is wiped clean to start all gear and players clean this type of gameplay will continue. Hacking cant and wont be stopped since only battle eye can do that. Its in alpha stage, yes I get that which is why i and many others suggest a HIVE wipe and start everyone over clean again. If there is more risk in losing weapons and gear becasue duping is fixed the best of its ability people might find out how to play this game. Will gear get duped and circulated again? Yes of course, but it will be slower since everyone will be starting fresh with NOTHING and nothing saved etc.

TL version : Game/mod was awesome and best immersive gameplay before it got so popular. Now just a fag fest of noobs thinking its funny to shoot then ask questions. Solution: Fix duping to best ability and wipe DB/HIVE and have everyone start completely over 1) better data gathering 2)People learn and see how game is supposed to be played.

All of this is very true. I only wish people could see that they are taking away from the experience instead of constantly trying to justify themselves.

[WildLeon 18]

[Creambomb 49]

I stopped playing because it's really really really boring and easy.