(Rocket) Why are we logging in on the coast

[Itchy (DayZ) 59]

Hmmmm........let me see!!! <_<

The game is in ALPHA!!! >:(

Had to could not resist!!! :P

Edited August 12, 2012 by Itchy

[SqTH 260]

Hmmmm........let me see!!! <_<

The game is in ALPHA!!! >:(

Had to could not resist!!! :P

Riiight....

- Hey Rocket we still have a shitload of bugs and glithces on the mod.

- I don't care. Hey, let's add dogs !

- Wait, you just can't ignore the tons of players upset.

- I don't care ! It's my mod, my rules!

- ...

- Ok, let's pretend the game is still in alpha.

Edited August 12, 2012 by SqTH

[Siggy (DayZ) 95]

Riiight....

- Hey Rocket we still have a shitload of bugs and glithces on the mod.

- I don't care. Hey, let's add dogs !

- Wait, you just can't ignore the tons of players upset.

- I don't care ! It's my mod, my rules!

- ...

- Ok, let's pretend the game is still in alpha.

You might want to change the colour of the blue and red, it hurts my eyes.

[Askar 177]

I see a lot of people saying that players should just stick to one server. I'm sure all of these points have been stated and reiterated at some point during the thread, but noone seems to be getting the point so I'll do it again.

Positive aspects of this new 'feature':

1. Server hopping for loot is gone.
   
2. Server hopping to avoid players or to outmaneuver enemies is gone.
   
3. Combat disconnecting is extremely limited; if you disconnect you have to stay disconnected for a long time or risk spawning on the coast. Or you could log back in and take the shot you deserved.
   

And here are the negative aspects:

1. Servers that are 'good' for me in my area have a tendency to go offline permanently or to not appear in the server list for many of my friends.
   
2. Sometimes servers are just whacked up; you can get stuck at the loading screen for an hour on a server that ran perfectly for you the day before. What do you do now?
   
3. Sometimes servers change settings. I've been on veteran servers that change to recruit-style settings (position on map, other shitty features) later. Do I keep playing here? Even though I'd rather play on harder settings, I can't now because of this 'feature'.
   
4. New friends or friends already playing can't join me, as they'd be warped to the coast and likely shot if they left whatever server they inhabit.
   
5. It would be virtually impossible to team up with people outside of your server, since they'd have to die and lose it all before they're willing to spawn on the coast for you, unless they think they can make it to safety before they're butchered on the coast.
   
6. Many helpful organizations are virtually destroyed by this. Say goodbye to trading, rescue groups, and medics. Medics especially have to hop servers probably 5+ times per hour in order to meet up with patients. That's not even to avoid conflict, just to meet up on the same plane of existence to render services. And even then, patients and medics often get very different servers listed and have to try meeting up on several different ones to see which works enough for both parties.
   
7. Again, what happens when your chosen server goes down? I had a clan a month ago. We established a decent sized camp and actually managed to get a working vehicle under the noses of the ruling clan on that server. It took us a week and a half. The day after we fixed up our truck the server went down, and hasn't appeared again since. You're telling me that I have to risk the coast in my good gear because the server I played on doesn't exist anymore?
   
8. Not to mention the other potential abuses of admin power. If I'm banned from my server for whatever reason, what do I do now? What if a hacker appears and teleports everyone to the NWAF. No way in hell I'm staying on that server, I'll go to a night one to sneak out of the airfield and then return. I'm not about to be punished by hackers and stay on the now swarming airfield to get shot.
   

That's just a list of things off the top of my head. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see combat disconnection and server hopping removed. But this just isn't the answer. This 'feature' causes far more pain to legitimate players than to server hoppers. If you have a server that works perfectly for you 100% of the time, that's fantastic. But much of the playerbase isn't so lucky, and what happens to friends who are on different servers? New friends who want to play with you? They have to essentially sacrifice their character, for no good reason. If this stays permanently, I'm afraid I'll have to stop being a medic. I'd only be able to help people on the coast since I have to server change to meet people, and doubtless I'd be shot on sight by every makarambo and bandit on the coast for the gear I carry alone.

Edited August 12, 2012 by Askar

[freddyquency 7]

I am not sure exactly what I did, but I think I just fully updated both Arma 2 and DayZ. I seemed to have had to do this via both DayZ commander and 6Launcher, though I think I just prematurely closed DayZ Commander before the Arma2 updater finished. After doing so, I have joined a couple of different servers and I was not ported to the coast, I logged out near Prud, the pond in the Old Fields, and joined 2 different servers, both times I logged in at the same spot I logged out at. I am not sure what is happening here...

I am beginning to think that this is Either a bug, or a poorly executed deterrent which has no blatantly obvious logic associated with it..

[Hawk24 94]

Quitting the game through AltF4 while stuck in an endless loading screen has a high chance of throwing you back to the coast

Atleast that's the only way I've ever managed to get me back to the coast with all my gear intact

Seems like it corrupts your position data, and once HIVE notices this, it rather kicks you back to the coast than into the debug ocean

Edited August 12, 2012 by Hawk24

[Thing 4]

I have a feeling this bug has something to do with the ghillie suits again. Where any of you guys wearing ghillies before you got teleported on the beach?

No

[Thing 4]

Only a tiny fraction of the player base are registered on the forums.

Only a tiny fraction of the players registered on the forums are posting in threads complaining about the issue.

People usually post when they have problems, the majority never post because they are happy, or accept the change.

This issue only seems to be affecting people who jump from server to server, for whatever reason, and are asking for it to be fixed.

Players who usually play on one server are not affected.

Making claims like 95% of the player base are against this, or everyone is against this, is ignorant.

Don't get attached to your gear. Saying you won't play because you might lose your gear is beyond my comprehension.

Players get sniped on the coast all the time, the difference if you have gear is that you are able to fight back for once.

Login problems and stuck on loading screen are due to the fact that "you" or the server do not have the most up to date versions.

If you use six launcher, you will have this problem. Six launcher does not update to 1.7.2.5. Use DayZ commander to check your versions (top right corner).

Play on server(s) with the same version as you. Period.

The sky is not falling. We don't know if this is a feature or a bug. If it is a feature, then rather than discarding it, improve it.

Increase the number of coastal spawns all the way up to Berezino. It's on the coast and it is just as probable that you could get washed ashore there as anywhere else.

More potential spawns and the less likely to get killed on the coast. At least until we know if this is intended or not.

No.It is a bug, we are right to bring it to the developers attention and you are an ass-hat

[merrfack 90]

I am having the same problem. Sometimes even joining the same server. I don't have camo or anything on, just civilian clothes. I have a saw and cz 550 w/ a g17 side arm. Gets old moving inland, then logging out for a little bit... choosing a different server... then back on the beach again. I get the point of it, but its hard for me and my friends to get on togethor on the same server sometimes so we have to try 2 or 3 till everyones good to go sometimes. I installed .5 and then had trouble getting stuck at loading screens. So I went back to .4 but problem still occurs.

Any Ideas yet?

[wrappa 0]

Well said Askar, have Beans. I'd give you ten thousand Beans if i could.

This can't possibly be a 'feature' though. Its just another massive Bug ruining the game atm

The idea of a stand alone finished DayZ game within months is never going to happen

- Hacking

- Huge unplayable Graphical Glitches

- Loading screen crashes

- Login Coast Teleportation

these problems are worse than ever now

it seems to me that DayZ is more infected and broken than the Zombie AI

[sixbarns 217]

I guess this explains why I never end up spawning on the coast. I have no problem with playing without force closing the program or alt-f4ing.

I

[Thing 4]

Ok... here I am trying to join my usual server but instead I am looking at the word 'Loading'.

So what do I do now? If I alt+f4 am I going to back at the coast? If I alt+f4 but wait for 30 min - 1 hour will I be ok. What are the goddamn rules? I have played maybe 3 or 4 times since the upgrade and have been dumped on the coast every fricking time - I am officially starting to get pissed of. If it is a bug then cent la vie but if it is a deliberate feature to discourage server hopping then it needs to get squashed ASAP.

I don't see what I have done to deserve to be caught in the cross fire here... as far as I can tell being stuck in the loading screen is a common issue. If it is a feature (and I don't know if it is) maybe it would make people's life's easier if they asked the community if a rule change would be ok rather than just stick it out there and see how many people squeal.

[MRJOEYBON 18]

I guess this explains why I never end up spawning on the coast. I have no problem with playing without force closing the program or alt-f4ing.

I

Good for you, but the server I play on with my friends is shutting down. We now have to find a server all of us can connect to with no problems whatsoever and then transfer all of our stuff over. I'm not even sure what to do at this point.

[Thing 4]

I guess this explains why I never end up spawning on the coast. I have no problem with playing without force closing the program or alt-f4ing.

I

You never ever get stuck in the 'Loading' screen? Never once had your wireless ap reset? Never once had to leave a server when it reset or disconnected? Never once had the phone ring while you were in the middle of a session and had to do something else?

What annoys me about this mod is not the bugs but the complete clowns who come on here to blame everything on the users. You don't see the bug? Good for you! You want a f***ing cookie? If you don't see the problem and have nothing to contribute to the discussion but to blame a bug in alpha SW on the users then why don't you just f*** off!

[sixbarns 217]

Good for you, but the server I play on with my friends is shutting down. We now have to find a server all of us can connect to with no problems whatsoever and then transfer all of our stuff over. I'm not even sure what to do at this point.

I read that and that must stuck. I guess hoarding a ton of gear isn't always the best thing to do. Just take the stuff you need and leave the rest. Most decent packs can carry two guns if that's what you're worried about. I find it hard to imagine what you guys have that you can't find elsewhere or can't carry in a few trips.

[zyfer.nyholm@gmail.com 131]

im glad to see you on our server :) atm us admins are pretty busy on our server so you will probably bump into us at some point, saw 2 guys on an ATV at airfield but my aim was shit lol :D the server gets busy now and then :)

[sixbarns 217]

You never ever get stuck in the 'Loading' screen? Never once had your wireless ap reset? Never once had to leave a server when it reset or disconnected? Never once had the phone ring while you were in the middle of a session and had to do something else?

What annoys me about this mod is not the bugs but the complete clowns who come on here to blame everything on the users. You don't see the bug? Good for you! You want a f***ing cookie? If you don't see the problem and have nothing to contribute to the discussion but to blame a bug in alpha SW on the users then why don't you just f*** off!

Calm down guy.

If the phone rings, I find a safe place and call them back. If I need to leave, I log out. It's also always a good idea to connected directly to your router with a wire when gaming.

I've exited the game on long load screens multiple times last night after accidentally joining servers with the wrong beta or alpha patch or weird ping issues. I joined two night time servers in a row and left. Nothing happened to me. IF this is related to continually closing the game to avoid combat or zombies, good. If it's a bug, not good. We shouldn't throw a temper tantrum since we neither have proof or word that either is the case.

Anyway, I'm sure it's frustrating. Otherwise you wouldn't have gone off about cookies and fucking off... unless you're a wee lad.

[Thing 4]

If it's a bug, not good. We shouldn't throw a temper tantrum since we neither have proof or word that either is the case.

It is a bug, it's been reported in the bug tracker and the reports on this thread are the proof which you would have known IF you had actually read it instead of blaming the problem on us. So I repeat... f*** off!

For the record, after being stuck on the loading screen I am now back on the coast AGAIN (5th time). I'm off-line until it's figured out because tbh grinding up past the spawn campers every damn time I log on is going to bore me to death.

You saying 'I have never seen the problem' and implying it is our fault is not a useful contribution

[Miraculixia 0]

Seriously if serverhopping was a gamebreaking thing to do it would be easy to lock characters to one server. It isnt so deal with it. Try to stop me from serverhopping by teleporting me to the beach? Well guess what i allready have the solution to that. The one thing i enjoy the most is log on servers and run forests to steal peoples stuff, hate me all you want, i dont care. Im not gonna risk my character being ported to the beach to be sniped by someone stalking spawnareas so ill just buy another key and serverhop with my /care account steal what i want and just log it in to my "home server" and run and die and loot with my main account. Come to think of it, i can use it to go get medical supplies in cities and any other stuff i need, i can just use my main when all my friends are online and i have all the best odds stacked in my favor.

/irony off

My point is, most often when you try to get rid of a small nuissance you creat a huge fuckin' problem instead. Deal with people serverhopping and let them do it instead of breaking the game completely trying to make it better.

[sixbarns 217]

It is a bug, it's been reported in the bug tracker and the reports on this thread are the proof which you would have known IF you had actually read it instead of blaming the problem on us. So I repeat... f*** off!

For the record, after being stuck on the loading screen I am now back on the coast AGAIN (5th time). I'm off-line until it's figured out because tbh grinding up past the spawn campers every damn time I log on is going to bore me to death.

You saying 'I have never seen the problem' and implying it is our fault is not a useful contribution

Child please. Can you please point out where I blamed the problem on you?

Saying "i never see the problem" is me identifying myself as a player that does not have the issue. If you had asked questions rather than.. whatever it is you think you did.. we might have been able to figure out what I was doing differently and that might have helped you avoid being spawned at the beach.

Oh well.

[McLovinCR 29]

As far as I know this happens when you server hop. One of my friends appeared in the coast 10min. after he logged off from one server and entered the one that i was in.

I appeared when I logged off 9 hours ago.

What Im trying to figure it out it's the "cooling off" time to not appeared in the coast...

[patrik_poulsen@hotmail.com 9]

donut cry little baby

[eule 10]

Server hopping = back to the coast since the latest patch. Atleast so I am told.

Sounds fair to me.

[Frunk 29]

It seems to be happening to me, when I get stuck on the Loading screen of servers, and have to manually close the game out. I'm fully updated with both Dayz and Arma 2 patches, and I'm only trying to join servers with the latest patches that I have installed. So it's not just happening when switching from 1.7.2.4 to 1.7.2.5 servers.

EDIT: If this is indeed a fix for server hopping, it's actually a dumb idea to implement. Most people start out on the coast, and eventually move inland, and head North. By respawninig server hoppers who are already geared up on the coast, it's just going to make it harder for the new players joining the game, when they are getting spawn killed a lot more. And then you start losing new players, because they are frustrated. Not the smartest decision if this was the fix for server hopping.

Edited August 12, 2012 by Frunk

[ninjan777 104]

me and my freind are getting this and we don't server hopp :S