Hackers, and the state of the standalone game?

[andy_uk15@hotmail.com 70]

The game is ruined by these cheaters.

I don't get it. I don't understand what they even get from playing this way.... fun? Fuck no. It would get boring as hell real fast. If strip away the realism, the survival aspect of DayZ, or ARMA for that matter - what do you have left?

I've always loved the realism I got from OPF, and ARMA and its simply all destroyed by brats who simply cannot play a game. They're literally too impatient, too stupid, or too spoiled to play. They're the type of player that would flip the chess board and sulk rather than lose at the game.

Edited August 12, 2012 by ScramUK

[JESUSARIUS REX (DayZ) 163]

Still haven't seen a hacker in dayz, although I saw one in takistan life

[tsandrey 379]

Battleye is actually doing a great job in detecting hacks. It only takes them 2 days to detect them. And I'm not sarcastic.

But, the problem is that Battleye can only detect AFTER they have ruined everything. Battleye can't stop scripts and teleporting, nuking, changing skins and etc.

It's none's fault, really. Arma is designed to work like that, so BI won't disable scripts. And DayZ is just a mod, and we need to realize that. Battleye is doing it's job, but can't do much more. The only thing we can do, is wait for standalone

[sasek 0]

Battleye is actually doing a great job in detecting hacks. It only takes them 2 days to detect them. And I'm not sarcastic.

But, the problem is that Battleye can only detect AFTER they have ruined everything. Battleye can't stop scripts and teleporting, nuking, changing skins and etc.

It's none's fault, really. Arma is designed to work like that, so BI won't disable scripts. And DayZ is just a mod, and we need to realize that. Battleye is doing it's job, but can't do much more. The only thing we can do, is wait for standalone

Battleye doing its job? You are joking right? After 5 minutes of search I found hacks that allow banned players to play DayZ servers... Nice huh?

[ImABurrito 0]

Just ALT F4 :3

Sometimes you can't alt F4 They may use hacks that kill you instantly, there is no way of you getting the chance. This game is getting ruined by hackers,

[kamajutsu 4]

Hacking is clearly an issue however it is not affecting the core community

HAHAHA

Stupidest thing I've read so far. then who is it effecting? The community is everyone playing the game, and if there are constant threads (not just on the forums but on Youtube etc) with constant outcry regarding hackers, are they not the "core" community? What constitutes this "core" community you speak of?

In the last 3 hours I've died to invisible players, players spawning helicopters on top of players, mass server killings. And this is just AFTER the latest beta and 1.7.2.5 patch, and on low population servers.

Sure, Battleye is claiming thousands are being banned for hacking, but this is already after the fact that they have gotten away with multiple hacks for days. Let's look at the ratio - currently they claim around 12,000 have been banned. Out of how many players? Over 1,000,000. Do the math. The Hackers are running rampant, yet the community is turning against each other telling people to "keep quiet" and "stop whining" about the issue.

Bottom line is - I don't believe in the community telling each other to "shuttup" and "quit whining" about issues.

Issues are issues, and no-one should be silenced or told to not re-enforce or re-address them.

This game is currently UNPLAYABLE due to hackers

[tsandrey 379]

Battleye doing its job? You are joking right? After 5 minutes of search I found hacks that allow banned players to play DayZ servers... Nice huh?

http://dayzmod.com/f...ctive-banwaves/

Yes it's doing it's job.

Btw. Who the hell said that there are 12,000 banned cheaters? That's impossible! There have been 13,000 banned cheaters in BF3, and BF3 is much older than DayZ and has 5X players! Either you're wrong or every 50th person in DayZ is cheating

Edited August 12, 2012 by TSAndrey

[kamajutsu 4]

Btw. Who the hell said that there are 12,000 banned cheaters? That's impossible!

Constant Battleye updates in in-game chat stating it. It was 10,000 a day or two ago. I'm just quoting what Battleye client is saying in the server chat

[kamajutsu 4]

P.S. There are already numerous hacks bypassing the global bans :)

And here's a quote from a hacker's Youtube channel -

mooka91 has replied to your comment on DayZ Bypass + Wuat Menu Setup:

That's alright, us hackers have quite a large database of ARMA 2 keys that prevents global bans

[loopy_loppy26@hotmail.com 18]

Yeah I don't get it, majority of the NZ servers are now unplayable due to hackers, the longest i've gone this weekend without dying a hack related death was about 5 hours. And due to there being such a small server pool for us down here, the hacker to server majority is quickly getting out of control. During today's play, i've died to hackers using godmode scripts, insta kill scripts, teleport, invisible, just about any imaginable way to die, a dude even spawned a truck on top of me and drove it around with god mode on trying to run me down. Last night we even had 2 vehicles stolen from us while we were driving them, This has occured on NZ - 2, NZ - 3, NZ -6, NZ - 19, NZ - 20, and im going to go ahead and assume all the other NZ servers. I might go back to ANZ servers, but i'm going to assume it'll be the same there. So yeah, the atmosphere is gone, i'm keen for the standalone, but if that falls to hacking too, it'll be a sad end to such an amazing idea.

[kamajutsu 4]

Either you're wrong or every 50th person in DayZ is cheating

MORE THAN THAT

And think about it dude...

It only takes 1 hacker out of 50 players to kill the entire server with a mass kill

So even ONE measly hacker on a full server is a huge problem.

I wish everyone would stop downlplaying the problem. It's only a matter of time before your server you currently play on will be unplayable

[K69 (DayZ) 2]

I have no clue if this is possible!

Set up a hive that only uses steam account unique IDs, (if this costs money then charge people a few dollars to get a login, if it removes the threat of hackers it'll be gladly taken on by the community) if you get caught hacking, you lose your steam access (for the DayZ mod). No one with less than X number of paid for games can pay to join the steam hive. It'd be like a premium membership that can be taken away.

Or

Team servers with FF off. Two teams competing against each other for resources, for those who want a bit of team play with more of the danger that makes the game more interesting. Most people hate cheaters, even if they are on there team, so the hacker would never know if he was being Frapped by a friendly and find himself banned. This was probably one of the best deterrents for games like CS back in the day and APB right now.

Edited August 12, 2012 by K69

[Revel (DayZ) 0]

I was playing on Ru #500, and all server was killed momentally. So after login on any other servers I have a bug: I spawn at the coast and don`t see my character, can`t move, can only use mouse to look around. What can I do with that?

[tsandrey 379]

MORE THAN THAT

And think about it dude...

It only takes 1 hacker out of 50 players to kill the entire server with a mass kill

So even ONE measly hacker on a full server is a huge problem.

I wish everyone would stop downlplaying the problem. It's only a matter of time before your server you currently play on will be unplayable

No. There is something wrong in that calculation

And on that guy that said "they have a lot of CD keys": Every game has hackers like that. And that's not the problem

[kamajutsu 4]

No. There is something wrong in that calculation

So one hacker player that logs onto a server, uses a script and kills the entire server of 50 players - is not a problem?

What is wrong with that calculation?

[Bishdark 4]

I have a great tale of woe and then triumph. My character was weeks old, been alive a long time, only killed one player in that time and had m16a1 with the launcher, all hunting stuff, 3 water bottles, navigation apart from gps and nvg. So I am waiting for a German friend to log on as he was having issues logging in, then BANG. Dead. I spend the next 5 minutes thinking about how someone saw me in the middle of the northern no where and in a bush that was in a ditch. I decide, at least half decide it could be cheaters (I dont use the term hackers as half these guys are too dumb to hack anything).

So I respawn, not too far from cherno. I have a map printed off so I take a quick look and see I can head toward Starry and go north east into the wild to my body, hopefully find most of my things. I went through another town, Lee Enfield, Makarov, both 2 clips. As I leave the town in tow with 10 zombies or so, I hear a chopper. My heart races as I havent seen one yet, I look around desperate to see it, then I hear the shots, most of the zombies are going down, but also the shots are getting rather close, so I duck in to a tree line and some rocks, see only 1 zombie left who seemed to lose me in the confusion and I wait.

Now I will explain what I later realised went down, as at the time I had no clue. I hear loud bangs, the chopper goes down, I hear gunshots, so I creep up on the area and there are 2 dead players, I think one is in a group of 3 cheaters, and one is a player that thought he would have a go at killing them and got 1. They spawn another chopper, and a crate. I wait 20m away from them behind a tree, contemplate sneaking up with the makarov as I used all my enflield rounds on the zombies earlier. Decide not to, I wait and they finally fly off.

All this is 10 minutes after my death. I go down, look in the crate, 50 of every item in there except bags. I then fight with my morales and leave it alone. But the corpse a little further on, he must had a little loot, got the m4 version of my gun from him, all the stuff I had but also nvg and Ghuiliie suit. All in all, it was a good day. WIsh I was streaming or recording it!

[TheUnaBoner 4]

Crazy cheating the other day on a server I can't recall, but the player was named 1-800-something or other. I had spawned far left of Kamenka and was working my way past the bridge when I see a truck and a guy running from zombies in full kit out, gillie, and dragonov. I have no weapons so I'm like wtf I'll run up to the truck and see if I can snag something while he isn't looking. Of course he see's me and I try to hop in the truck. So while he's pumping rounds into me, I died, but he was a full tard and didn't realize he had not killed off the zeds and they killed him too.

Thankfully, I respawn at Komorov and run full sprint all the way back to where my body was thinking that at least I might find something there. Lo and behold, truck is there as well as the dead hacker who I looted and now have all the stuff he had (which was everything NVG, Rangefinder, GPS). My previous game had survived 3 weeks and had this as well, but got glitched and a zed nailed me. Anyway, what was totally crazy was that while I'm looking at the truck (which was missing a tire) all of the sudden 30 women characters all spawn in front of me all with weapons. It was crazy. They start running about looking for stuff, they must have thought I was the original guy because they didn't shoot initially, but then pumped a few more rounds into me. I have yet to see a mass spawn of a team of people armed. It just seemed weird, they were all identical characters with different guns.

[icebox666 0]

D*mn hackers... today i was just walking around the airfield to get some nice guns and i was looking for NV goggles.

Suddenly a player spawns next to me with a full camo and a red barret.

He was holding i quess some sort of m60 but whatever.

So i scared and shot the guy point blank in his face.

He died.

But when i thought lets steal his stuff he just disappeared all of a sudden in some sort of rainbow smoke grenade.

i was thinking ok odd whell lets go further with the investigation of my looting progress.

i was walking in a forest thing and took out my binocolair and then i died all of a sudden.

Just died no lead for it just died.

i HAD a nice gear and it is all gone and i hate it this is i quess the 7 time this happend.

i even turned in a rabbit once.

sorry to say but you did a really good job on this mod i really love this game but this hacking just sucks.

and please do something about it......

Edited August 12, 2012 by icebox

[ezay75 57]

Spent something like three hours chasing a vehicle. Found a V3S. Spent another 30 minutes driving it to our camp. Disconnected happy, posted it on our clan forum.

Reconnected today: cheater teleported every vehicles to him. GG. I'm done with the game untill standalone.

[Baka Survivor 20]

Newsflash: griefing asshole hackers just feed on your tears and rage. That is the only reason they grief other players. They rejoice reading your frustrated threads about hacking. The more you cry, the more they grief. Just play or quit playing, but don't do the only thing they want: cry about it on the forums. There is nothing any of us can do about hacking except let the big boys handle them as well as they can.

[peetgamer 10]

Newsflash: griefing asshole hackers just feed on your tears and rage. That is the only reason they grief other players. They rejoice reading your frustrated threads about hacking. The more you cry, the more they grief. Just play or quit playing, but don't do the only thing they want: cry about it on the forums. There is nothing any of us can do about hacking except let the big boys handle them as well as they can.

Is there nothing i can do about oh?

I won't in a million years spent any dime on a BI project as long its so easy to hack there games and ill cry as long as want thats only way maybe ROCKET get his head out of his ass and realy do something about it.

ITS GAMEOVER thanks to hackers and you say where crying and rage lol. Its rocket and BI who should scry for poor gamecode.

[tsandrey 379]

Is there nothing i can do about oh?

I won't in a million years spent any dime on a BI project as long its so easy to hack there games and ill cry as long as want thats only way maybe ROCKET get his head out of his ass and realy do something about it.

ITS GAMEOVER thanks to hackers and you say where crying and rage lol. Its rocket and BI who should scry for poor gamecode.

That's not poor design. They did that on purpose. Arma was designed to allow scripts, trust the client and be moddable. It was never designed to be a Zombie mod

[tet5uo (DayZ) 22]

Just died yet again to being teleported 1000 metres in the air. Had just gotten my guy nicely equipped too.

I hate losing my gear to stupid script kids. If I had died to bugs or players fine, but some asshat just getting his jollies by ruining people's day shouldn't have such an easy time of it. Any server above 10 people will be hit by hackers if you stay there long enough. It's a certainty these days.

[Xenonizdubby 0]

O_o people need to stop crying over hackers :L ................................ there will always be hackers. SIMPLE even if everyone sais 'in the standalone game there will be less/no hackers' BS ............. there will be just as many ! soo you will just have to get used to it :L . how about stop being little cry babys and go make friends with them ??? that will sort your issues out

[Opitz 0]

Rocket, just change the "killed" info messages for sake of this mod... Just put there WHO killed WHO and WHERE... I just got killed in one supermarket one minute after my spawn. I was proning close to wall. Checked doors and room. Took M911.. NOBODY there. After proning two meters from wall, 5 sec maybe, I heard a step - one single step. I turned back and saw guy who shot me dead with ONE shot... I was on server where were only 3 other players, in the night, dark everywhere. 4 total in 225 km2 of dark space... And I got killed like this about one minute after I connected.

I am not complaining because I got killed and lost stuff which I can take in one hour. BUT... I was there just one minute, took M1911 instead of Makarov and after ten seconds I got killed as described.

If you make a system message "who killed who and where" everything will be much simpler. Game is ruined by cheaters now. Big casino if you log in to server with cheaters or not. But mostly you do. And you die... And you cant do anything to protect yourself. Make no sense to play such "game"... Why not? Because you CANT even "test" the bugs in the alpha... You have no opportunity for it. It is just hacking sandbox...

Edited August 12, 2012 by Opitz