Move 9mm SMGs to the Sidearm Slot

[xQlusive (DayZ) 3]

Hi, since I haven't found anything to this perticular Topic i decided to open a new Thread.

So the idea is to Move the Bizon and the MP5 and MP5sd to the Sidearm slot. Thats why:

1.So right now there is already the PDW as Sidearm, which is a micro Uzi. According to Wikipedia it weighs in at about 3,6 kg (unloaded) which is more then the MP5.

2.Also SMGs/PDWs are common sidearms for Sniper

3. Right now the MP5 variations and the Bizon are kind of useless, since they only have a effective combar Range of 100m

though it might hurt the balance a little, since a silenced SMG is kind of a powerfull Sidearm.

[Xianyu 820]

Actually, the Bizon, MP5, and MP5SD are all as weak as horse piss. They do just under 900 damage a round.

so it would take about 15 to drop a player. They're mainly anti-zombie weapons. I don't see how moving them to the sidearm slot would cause too much imbalance. It might meant they actually get used.

When it comes down to it, I'll take a frigging double barrel shotgun over an MP5 of any flavour. why? because the DB shotgun has a chance of killing another player if I have to protect myself.

[TheDesigner 1197]

OP is right, but, the Bizon has ~50 bullets, so maybe not the Bizon.

[liquidcactus 719]

AGreed !

[xQlusive (DayZ) 3]

Actually, the Bizon, MP5, and MP5SD are all as weak as horse piss. They do just under 900 damage a round.

so it would take about 15 to drop a player. They're mainly anti-zombie weapons. I don't see how moving them to the sidearm slot would cause too much imbalance. It might meant they actually get used.

When it comes down to it, I'll take a frigging double barrel shotgun over an MP5 of any flavour. why? because the DB shotgun has a chance of killing another player if I have to protect myself.

the silenced weapons are pretty good for snipers because they are normally useless in towns against zeds.

[cls (DayZ) 1]

i always try to keep my mp5 in my backpack as secondary, main weapon m16a4 acog, side arm is a revolver due to its high dmg or a pdw

[Steiyn 6]

I half agree with this, I believe giving snipers an SMG as a sidearm would be way too powerful, the sniper is meant to be vulnerable and are meant to be far away from danger, I think if this is implemented that we will see loads more campers and thats the last thing dayz needs right now.

[KEEPCARLM 146]

yes if only just to make the SMGs get used, theyre all rarer than any AK.

so i prose make the SMG's much rarer, but have them as secondary weapons.

[xximrtwoixx 104]

I think if the SMG's were made smaller in terms of inventory space it would accomplish nearly the same thing and would need less coding/balancing for things like secondary deployment time etc..

[Kn1fe2MeetU 2]

you can carry 30 round PDW magazines so why not?

Edited October 12, 2012 by Kn1fe2MeetU

[Dr.Duff 211]

AS50 primary + Bison secondary = No fucking thanks!

[dallas 5195]

The MP5 and Bizon are specifically designed to be fire one handed. No?

Edited October 12, 2012 by Dallas

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

I always thought the "sidearm" slot was the pistol holster on the dudes leg (hero skin, can't remember if survivor skin has one) in which case, an MP5 just wouldn't fit.

If you're going to make MP5s sidearms, I want a sawed off DB shotgun as my sidearm.

I think weapon storage needs revamped (no way a M107 takes up the same storage space as 2 makarovs) so the smaller primary weapons should be handled differently (takes less slots, unholster faster etc.), but not to the extent that all other secondary weapons become useless.

It would unbalance PvP even further because the loot farmers would be rocking 2 rifle grip weapons, and n00bs wouldn't stand a chance.

[Riem 164]

The MP5 and Bizon are specifically designed to be fire one handed. No?

They can be, yes. But no automatic weapon bigger than a machine pistol is designed to be.

Just because you can does not mean you should.

Edit. I agree though that a SMG should not take up the same space as a rifle or machine gun.

Edited October 12, 2012 by Riem

[dallas 5195]

I think the MP5/Bizon belongs in the primary category at least for the DayZ mod, I'm pretty sure it will be alot different in the standalone, when the inventory system is reworked. I can't imagine a MP5 will weigh you down as much as an AS50 or a M240