Yes another "get rid of sniper guns" whine

[lnfighter 20]

It's not so much the snipers themselves as the fact that no game seems to have realistic sniper mechanics. My cousin just got out of army and was a sniper for 5 years. He explained sniper mechanics and methods to me. And if you've ever seen the show Top Shot, you see how difficult it is to land long range shots (and those are supposed to be the best shooters on that show).

I'm just sick of sniper guns in video games having such unrealistic sniper mechanics. IRL, a sniper has 1 reliable shot (the 1st), a second shot if they're good and lucky. A third shot is almost unheard of from what I'm told.

Since the mechanics in video games are so absurd, it allows people to camp and snipe untouched and get endless kills.

Just my opinion but I feel this game would be so much better if they removed AS50, M107, DMR, SVD, L85, and maybe the M24.

We all keep mentioning realism with this game. Well, realistically in the time of chaotic apocalypse, the only weapons the most people would have access to are pistols, shotguns, hunting rifles, MAYBE short range light machines guns. So why is it we're all walking around with L85 and AS50s?

Also the following bugs/changes need to be fixed immediately and will change the game to more realism:

No full ammo on relog or full ammo on converting.

Only 1 tent per player per server

Zombies run straight line, but can now hit while moving

The game needs to focus on SURVIVING, not hoarding and sniper camping.

[Bulletproof Sandwich 57]

you forgot one thing

IT IS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME

if you want realistic sniping join the army

get commended for marskmanship training

then suck it up through the 5 weeks of sniper school

[Ankhenaten 111]

Shoot then relocate ...Vassili Zaitsev ftw :D

[Sgt.Asshat 607]

Only them? what about the CZ? oh and while you're at it, have my testicles as a sign of good will and peace in chernarus.

:facepalm:

[lnfighter 20]

you forgot one thing

IT IS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME

if you want realistic sniping join the army

get commended for marskmanship training

then suck it up through the 5 weeks of sniper school

I know it's a video game, so I usually let it go. BUT, everyone keeps mentioning "realism" with this game, so why not change one of the most unrealistic things about the game?

And i've already did my time in the army, but I was CID. You're welcome kid.

[bluecrackers 175]

Out of all the games I've played with snipers arma 2 has some of the most realistic ballistics I've seen in a video game.

[lnfighter 20]

Only them? what about the CZ? oh and while you're at it, have my testicles as a sign of good will and peace in chernarus.

:facepalm:

CZ isn't auto fire so you need to re-adjust each shot. Means more realistic. The M14 isn't really a sniper rifle imo as there's not zoom and range isn't as good. And since when do women have testes?

Edited August 1, 2012 by lnfighter

[Food 309]

Actually this game is about surviving. THEN you get a sniper and it's about hoarding and murdering.

[lnfighter 20]

Out of all the games I've played with snipers arma 2 has some of the most realistic ballistics I've seen in a video game.

I agree somewhat. I guess games still have a ways to go for sniper mechanics though.

[Spidey (DayZ) 78]

OP is right. DayZ has nohing to do with realism if we talk about snipers.

Don't remove them. Make them just much harder and realistic. If that's not possible, remove them.

[Bulletproof Sandwich 57]

I agree somewhat. I guess games still have a ways to go for sniper mechanics though.

why on earth would you complain about the "realism" on a game if you wanted realism just grab a remington 700 series and go outside

later when you are either dead or hauled off to jail in critical condition you can just tell your plea to the court and say you thought it was a video game

[chaR 40]

Also the following bugs/changes need to be fixed immediately and will change the game to more realism:

No full ammo on relog or full ammo on converting.

A bug in the alpha stage of a game, what is this madness.

Only 1 tent per player per server

I'm sitting on my chair with 2 tents behind me in real life right now. What kind of twisted reality am i living in?

Zombies run straight line, but can now hit while moving

An unfinished aspect in a game in alpha stage, what is this madness

Edited August 1, 2012 by chaR

[lnfighter 20]

OP is right. DayZ has nohing to do with realism if we talk about snipers.

Don't remove them. Make them just much harder and realistic. If that's not possible, remove them.

I was going to suggest that they just have their drop chance lowered by a large %, but with duping and loot cycle farming, it pointless.

Once duping is fixed (which it never will be) and loot cycle is fixed (just put every spawn spot on a 1+ hour timer), then we could lower drop rate.

[Dickhat 99]

you forgot one thing

IT IS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME

if you want realistic sniping join the army

get commended for marskmanship training

then suck it up through the 5 weeks of sniper school

You know Arma is actually used to train soldiers irl because of how realistic it is, right?

[lnfighter 20]

A bug in the alpha stage of a game, what is this madness.

I'm sitting on my chair with 2 tents behind me in real life right now. What kind of twisted reality am i living in?

An unfinished aspect in a game in alpha stage, what is this madness.

Oh look, another "its only alpha" troll. What other excuses you got? You must never want the game to be better huh?

[lnfighter 20]

You know Arma is actually used to train soldiers irl because of how realistic it is, right?

Correction... a MODIFIED VERSION of arma was used.

[Bulletproof Sandwich 57]

Oh look, another "its only alpha" troll. What other excuses you got? You must never want the game to be better huh?

oh look another moron

do you know how long this game has even been worked on? id like to see u fix this shit by yourself

1 its the mod

2 the game mechanics system used for it is under the mercy of its original creator not the mod creator for DayZ

you really just need to get your head out of your own asshole

you must have left whatever intelligence you had in your mothers vagina when she shat you out

[bluecrackers 175]

Oh look, another "its only alpha" troll. What other excuses you got? You must never want the game to be better huh?

But the game IS only in alpha? You do realize that alpha is pretty much the roughest cut of a game while still being playable right?

[chaR 40]

Oh look, another "its only alpha" troll. What other excuses you got? You must never want the game to be better huh?

How is it an excuse when it's a fact.

The game is in its alpha stage. In the vast majority of the games that come out, alpha isn't ever publicly availible. Be happy you are able to play this game so early. If you can't stand playing an alpha, along with the consequences, then delete the mod & wait till it's released.

Also

I don't get that you whine about this when it comes to realism.

Instead maby ask to get this added:

> Players now have to take a piss/go shit depending on the food/drinks they consumed.

> Consuming to many pasta cans and drinking to much coke will cause your character to become morbidly obese.

> Your character now has to rest for 4-6 weeks when breaking a bone, rather than taking a shot of morphine.

> Food no longer restores blood.

These seems alot more significant when it comes to realism than a man being able to hold 2 camping tents.

[Elmokki 6]

AS50, M107, L85 and maybe SVD are pretty stupid. But honestly, the only weapon I'd be willing to totally remove is L85.

AS50, M107 and SVD just need to be rare as hell, and especially ammo for them needs to be rare as hell. Currently it's impossible thanks to duping and ammo refill bugs, but eventually they might become weapons that cannot be used 24:7 anyway provided you even find one.

[dallas 5195]

While we're waiting for rocket to remove rifles from the only game, where are actually distances great enough to justify sniping, might I suggest you become less of a sitting duck in the meantime.

[aks 5]

The ACE mod for arma 2 added even more realistic features for sniping. Maybe if somehow it was incorporated into dayz it would be harder to snipe but more realistic. It is up to rocket how much other features out of default arma 2 he wants to incorporate in the mod.

[Michaelvoodoo25 3120]

It's a game, There are elements of realism but come on I'm sure where you live you might have infected people running up and down the street but Most of us don't.

Sniping in real life is very difficult, I know because I failed the course. However games have to add a little fiction in order for them to be appealing or most would be dull otherwise.

Be calm, If the mechanics of the Mod are not to your liking:

3. Design your own realistic sniping mechanic.

5. Play another game

2. Get a punch bag set up and relieve your frustration on it (a close alternative is a good sex session with your partner)

1. Go to bed, wake up and then realise your post was your opinion and you shouldn't force it onto others like am RSM.

4. It's a game

[Kittyhawk78 7]

People seem to think that Rocket is some omniscient programming god (which he may be) but he's sort of at the mercy of the engine as far as what he can efficiently change about the game. Do I think the sniper rifles in Day Z are a little too accurate? Yes. All the sniper rifles seem to be .00001 MOA tack drivers, unaffected by windage. Even the CZ550, which I've shot in real life (albeit the .458 Win Mag Safari version, not the 9.3x62 version in the game) and is nowhere near as accurate as the game makes it out to be. The thing is though, they shouldn't be removed just because they're more accurate than they should be. I know it sucks getting sniped, but it's part of the game. Removing the sniper rifles would remove an entire sub set of legitimate tactics from the game, and that would narrow gameplay far too much, leaving us only able effectively engage eachother up close, and pretty much negating the effectiveness of running overwatch, which will just make death matching worse. So the sniper rifles should have their accuracy modified a bit, maybe add in rounds being effected by wind, as well as bullet drop and velocity reduction at range, maybe making the high end military sniper rifle less common (they're already pretty rare) and making some of the soviet weapons more common but removing them would be completely out of line

[void.false@gmail.com 300]

And i've already did my time in the army, but I was CID. You're welcome kid.

Then re-enlist and go to sniper scholl n00b!