Why this mod is failing

[morten.t.beck@gmail.com 1]

Op is fail. DayZ continues to grow.

[sgthl 2]

I really like this mod but i don´t see Dayz making it as a succesful "stand alone" at this stage.

Now everyone downloads it because it´s free. Paying customers are a different matter.

For a game to be commercially succesful there needs to be a proper game. The big free-for-all deathmatch just won´t do it. There needs to be other things to do besides just surviving or killing other players.

There needs to be continuity of some sort and there needs to be a "end game".

Rocket should have a look at Fallen Earth and games like it and take whats useful into Dayz like missions, safe cities, crafting, trade, vaults, pvp-/pvpfree zones (yes pvpfree zones.. noone likes to be killed by an asshole with a thermalscope or AS50/M107 camping the beaches in the first 5 seconds of the game he just bought).

There is a gazillion bugs and exploits to be fixed too. Alt+f4 disconnects in a pvp-fight, ghosting, maphacks, wallhacks, duping, killer trees/doors, the doors/walls/barbed wire not functioning like doors/walls/barbed wire against zombies, breaking your legs for nothing, the horrible inventory system (drag and drop with nothing disappearing into thin air... please) etc.

I get the idea behind Dayz but it´s not a commercially feasible game at this stage.

Edited August 1, 2012 by Sgt.HL

[Dj Mikey 37]

you honestly think "murder" wouldnt be an extremely important thing to think about in a zombie apocolypse? To be honest, i think the level of banditry is no where near what it could and should be to make this game even more immerse and relative to what RL would be like.

"human nature" do anything in a crucial time to survive, no matter the cost. Protecting yourself and creating a tight nit group is all that "banditry" is in this game. Im sorry you have a hard time making friends op, i truly am. Would you like to team up? Ill cripple your leg then morphine you, then cripple your leg, then morphine you, over and over and over and over and over.

Bandit Pride!

Edited August 1, 2012 by Dj Mikey

[Grey Warden 90]

I disagree that an 'end game' will stop all the assholes from camp killing noobs. If their attention span is that short then they wont work towards an 'end game'. Or they will get near the 'end game' and delay it because it'll be the end wont it and they'll lose all the high end gear?

What does 'end game' mean?

The only problem with noob killers is their attention span is smaller than a grain of salt and they will always be around.

[Grey Warden 90]

you honestly think "murder" wouldnt be an extremely important thing to think about in a zombie apocolypse? To be honest, i think the level of banditry is no where near what it could and should be to make this game even more immerse and relative to what RL would be like.

Unless a real Zombie apocalyse happens you have no proof to back up that claim.

[neo2157 21]

The problem is that everyone exploits the hell out of this game and then complains its to easy, well no shit If I server hopped for loot and infinite ammo, used the online dayz wiki map to find all the loot, used a tent to dupe stuff, used ventrilo instead of direct chat to give my friends feedback from 500 miles away dureing a fight, etc then i'd be bored like you guys to. this is kinda like when everyone said they got bored with a GTA game and they use cheats from the get go.

one suggestion i would have to improve the survival aspect of this game would be to give the animals actual ai instead of just standing around waiting to be killed and gutted.

Edited August 1, 2012 by neo2157

[Boomstick (DayZ) 41]

This fucking thread is still going?

Come on! Its obvious the OP is either..

A: Troll, quite possible as none of his statements are true in anyones reality but his own.

B: Retarded: and Doesn't understand what "Unique" users are and that there is almost 1 million of them for a fucking mod in Alpha released only three months ago.

C: Hes been gang raped by snipers and is upset over it.

Im going to go with...all of thee above.

[rak 2]

I hope rocket has read the OP, because I agree with every sentence of it. There's nothing else to do once you're kitted, the only thing remaning is to kill other players. At least bring bandit skins back so we can go hunting bandits instead . . .

[sgthl 2]

This fucking thread is still going?

Come on! Its obvious the OP is either..

A: Troll, quite possible as none of his statements are true in anyones reality but his own.

B: Retarded: and Doesn't understand what "Unique" users are and that there is almost 1 million of them for a fucking mod in Alpha released only three months ago.

C: Hes been gang raped by snipers and is upset over it.

Im going to go with...all of thee above.

Go back to your trailer pikey.

This is a forum for a mod/ upcoming standalone game at it´s alpha-stage, these things are meant to be discussed.

[(AOW)n4zRuDiN 10]

Watch and learn, it all makes sense.

[Boomstick (DayZ) 41]

Go back to your trailer pikey.

This is a forum for a mod/ upcoming standalone game at it´s alpha-stage, these things are meant to be discussed.

This is a topic about an Alpha stage mod failing,

Are you just willfully stupid?

OP stated that this game will fail despite the fact the game is incredibly popular in reality ( 1 Million players, 300% increase in Arma sales )

You can discuss the games many failing all you want there are many of them, Thats what makes human interaction fun we have different ideas on things, but to state something that is completely untrue and just fucking stupid deserves the ridicule it gets.

I refer you to my earlier post,

"First off, the game is failing because of bandits...Thats like me saying McDonalds is failing because it has fatty food, and people don't like that shit. Only im factually wrong as its not failing, its doing very well. You've fallen into the same retarded logical. Try figure it out."

Its that fucking simple, close this thread so retards such as yourself can go back to picking up dead skunks off the road for dinner.

Edited August 1, 2012 by Boomstick

[sgthl 2]

Its that fucking simple, close this thread so retards such as yourself can go back to picking up dead skunks off the road for dinner.

Atleast i wouldn´t be stealing my food like you do for uncle dad.

[Boomstick (DayZ) 41]

Atleast i wouldn´t be stealing my food like you do for uncle dad.

That doesn't even make sense but i'll assume since you came back at me with that shit attempt at an insult that your "done" here.

Move along

[vbgbasse 5]

i think it´s sad what all the forums has become. i remember in the early 2000 when u could discuss thing with eachother on forums like this. but in that time, if u disaree with another player they didnt call eachoter cuts, assholes and more.. In that time u showed other player/people respect for their thoughts and idees. sad indeed =(

[Boomstick (DayZ) 41]

i think it´s sad what all the forums has become. i remember in the early 2000 when u could discuss thing with eachother on forums like this. but in that time, if u disaree with another player they didnt call eachoter cuts, assholes and more.. In that time u showed other player/people respect for their thoughts and idees. sad indeed =(

I don't think insults are the problem...forums are a safe haven for people to say what they want without any real consequence so your always going to get that. I don't mind this but I think people since the early 2000s have stop making actual points and resort to insults rather than relevant discussion and insults thrown in :)

As for respect for other opinions?

No, if you have a stupid opinion im going to call it stupid.

I expect the same treatment myself, im not going to dance around an issue.

Edited August 1, 2012 by Boomstick

[sgthl 2]

I don't think insults are the problem...forums are a safe haven for people to say what they want without any real consequence so your always going to get that. I don't mind this but I think people since the early 2000s have stop making actual points and resort to insults rather than relevant discussion and insults thrown in :)

As for respect for other opinions?

No, if you have a stupid opinion im going to call it stupid.

I expect the same treatment myself, im not going to dance around an issue.

Nice one there hipocrite.

[DrewDubious 19]

QQ more. Crymore. Carebear. It's an alpha. Sneak. Harden up. tl;dr

I stopped reading right here.

[vbgbasse 5]

What we should disguss is; what shall we do when we are full geared?

those indications ive got after reading some of your posts is that the game is perfecly fine besides some buggs and some of you feels that the game missing something.

[sgthl 2]

What we should disguss is; what shall we do when we are full geared?

those indications ive got after reading some of your posts is that the game is perfecly fine besides some buggs and some of you feels that the game missing something.

Indeed.

The game poses a challenge for the first few hours when you don´t have a clue about anything.

Once you understand how easy it is to find what you need to survive there really isn´t much more to do. How many times can you raid the airfield or a chopper crashsite before it gets boring? Not that many i´m afraid. There needs to be more to do.

Edited August 1, 2012 by Sgt.HL

[The Burned Man 20]

Nah that's exactly what the game is supposed to be, the only problem the game has now are hackers and server hoppers.

[dayzsurvivors 155]

Assuming you play with friends, If you have:

• A camp in a secure location. If stuff is being taken often you need to move it. (This is very much an ongoing task, as once someone finds it they will remember it and come back again).
  

• Enough gear in the camp to restock everyone should they die. (And if someone does die and restock, you need to replace that gear again).
  

• Enough vehicles to be able to do supply runs and/or pickup fresh spawn team mates. (If your ride(s) get stolen as they often do, you need to source more)
  

• Enough parts and petrol to maintain said vehicles.
  

• A good range of high quality weapons between you. (Snipers, LMG's, assualt rifles, a good amount of silenced weapons for zombie killing in town raids).
  

• All the bells and whistles (NVG's, GPS, Toolbox, etc)
  

• Enough Ammo/food/drink to last you and your team for a long time.
  

THEN I would say you are 'done' and your only other viable option would to be to turn to banditry. And even then that is leaving out trying to hunt down a heli for your team.

[Greasymullet 7]

QQ more. Crymore. Carebear. It's an alpha. Sneak. Harden up. tl;dr

But seriously, bandits are the only reason this game is still fun.

[straw 5]

Nah that's exactly what the game is supposed to be, the only problem the game has now are hackers and server hoppers.

dont forget abusing admins and alt+f4 cowboys - just played for 3 hours and as firefights started I kept watching playerlist and you could see them disconnecting one by one.....

[qkungen 0]

stop crying plX

[vbgbasse 5]

I would like the zombies so dangerous that ever if you are full geared with big guns and more, you will think twice before you attack them. I think the mainreason this game is a PVP game is because when you learned how the zombies are programmed, then their no challenge anymore. you need a new challenge. the only challenge on the server is for the moment other players. and because of that, it´s the natural enemy. if you dont need to play with other players, they will be your enemy. If the survival gets harder, players will need eachother on a new level and the game will hopefully create sociatys on servers, like Eve online.