Should DayZ Be Censored?

[3rdparty 229]

Why would any game have to be censored at all? They're just games.

that is my point but my forum intuition tells me you didnt read the entire OP sorry if i am incorrect.

[The Alphabeat. 16]

that is my point but my forum intuition tells me you didnt read the entire OP sorry if i am incorrect.

My forum intuition tells me that your title is highly misleading.

[3rdparty 229]

My forum intuition tells me that your title is highly misleading.

But still very much on point, this leads me to conclude, you post on threads without reading OPs

[ratfever 27]

So I would say that you have seen a horror film that has far grimer scare/shock value then this game holds, and that if ye were to equate the horror of this game to a film, itd be a pretty lame horror film.

To think as well that the horror aspect with zombies will not be improved beyond its current level.. :) I wouldnt bet on it.

I've always preferred a deeper feeling of horror, rather than just simple "Boo!" and gore scares. I'd love to watch a movie like this game, look at The Walking Dead, I Am Legend, or The Book of Eli (with zombies). Those films give an authentic feel of suspense, rather then selling itself out for a cheap scare.

[hunterkilla 67]

I think this question would need to be asked in about 10+ years time. When you are totally immersed including full vision, you have to move and walk around and get senses like smell, touch and temperature. THATS when we have to think about how immersed ina game we are and how i will affect us. Then will we be able to detach ourselves from whats in the game and whats in real life

As it is now, we get attached to our on screen character but we know they will die and someone will take the beans... we just start again....

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

Thank you, for skim reading!

I did read it completely, just so you know.

Nobody is even attempting to censor the game, however, so this topic is pointless.

[N0DemonZ 17]

The title of the thread is very misleading since you aren't asking "Should DayZ be censored", you are more talking about the concept of games getting to the point where they have to be censored since games will inevitably get to the point of realism as it said in your link, as if it's a dream.

I think eventually it might get to that point, but god knows when we would arrive at such a point.

On a side note, that site is pretty damn good.

Edited July 28, 2012 by N0DemonZ

[3rdparty 229]

I've always preferred a deeper feeling of horror, rather than just simple "Boo!" and gore scares. I'd love to watch a movie like this game, look at The Walking Dead, I Am Legend, or The Book of Eli (with zombies). Those films give an authentic feel of suspense, rather then selling itself out for a cheap scare.

Well i havnt seen I Am Legend.

But I can tell ye a huge base of Walking Deads base comes from the powerfully grim comic book, which makes the TV series look like a weeping pussy.

And Book of Eli is, although not so grim, is littered with blatent suggestions of rape, torture and slavery.

[3rdparty 229]

I think this question would need to be asked in about 10+ years time. When you are totally immersed including full vision, you have to move and walk around and get senses like smell, touch and temperature. THATS when we have to think about how immersed ina game we are and how i will affect us. Then will we be able to detach ourselves from whats in the game and whats in real life

As it is now, we get attached to our on screen character but we know they will die and someone will take the beans... we just start again....

ah but thats something different, im talking abotu coming across the kind of scenarios and people that make a world feel real. Not just authentic sense aesthetics.

[3rdparty 229]

I did read it completely, just so you know.

Nobody is even attempting to censor the game, however, so this topic is pointless.

Well thankyou for such an insightful contribution. Also thankyou, again, for skim reading, otherwise you would see how your post, was also pointless!

[3rdparty 229]

The title of the thread is very misleading since you aren't asking "Should DayZ be censored", you are more talking about the concept of games getting to the point where they have to be censored since games will inevitably get to the point of realism as it said in your link, as if it's a dream.

I think eventually it might get to that point, but god knows when we would arrive at such a point.

On a side note, that site is pretty damn good.

I guess, but put a bit of a tone on it and see the conversations unwravel in many threads im talking off in suggestions and maybe not so misleading. But definitely not off topic. Im asking whether a game like this should even consider censorship seeing as its striving for survival simulation.. in a zombie apocalypse.

YEeeea it does look good doesnt it, i think they're stock piling interviews from game designers, where be rocket was my first question?? XD

[Morotstomten 34]

as far as games goes dayz is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down the list between hello kitty island adventure and the sims when it comes to violence and gore, its atleast in the top 5 tamest zombie killing games ever. nothing to censor really

Edited July 28, 2012 by Morotstomten

[3rdparty 229]

as far as games goes dayz is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY down the list between hello kitty island adventure and the sims when it comes to violence and gore, its atleast in the top 5 tamest zombie killing games ever. nothing to censor really

Amazing how many peeps dont read OPs

[N0DemonZ 17]

Im asking whether a game like this should even consider censorship seeing as its striving for survival simulation.. in a zombie apocalypse.

Dayz has no reason to be Censored.

Maybe a Survival Zombie Apocalypse game will come along and when you play it is like a dream.

Where you will fully connect with the character/avatar you are playing and when you make a decision you have to stop and take it seriously because you treat that character as if it is YOU in a dream. That is what it is suggesting that they would want the games to eventually be like.

But we are a long long way off anything like that. So I would say the title is still misleading :P

[ratfever 27]

Well i havnt seen I Am Legend.

But I can tell ye a huge base of Walking Deads base comes from the powerfully grim comic book, which makes the TV series look like a weeping pussy.

And Book of Eli is, although not so grim, is littered with blatent suggestions of rape, torture and slavery.

I haven't read the comics, so I wouldn't know. But i do enjoy the show.

You are meant to survive the zombie apocalypse in this game, This game already has the ability of slavery (I believe we've all seen that video). This game is a sandbox, if you want to capture fresh spaws and force them to fight to the death, that is a possibility. I do not see what needs to be added, that would not be unneccessary and drive players away.

[sambody 44]

Amazing how many peeps dont read OPs

Change the name of the topic or something, it's misleading.

And this topic is mostly pointless anyways.

PS: wut.

[3rdparty 229]

Dayz has no reason to be Censored.

Maybe a Survival Zombie Apocalypse game will come along and when you play it is like a dream.

Where you will fully connect with the character/avatar you are playing and when you make a decision you have to stop and take it seriously because you treat that character as if it is YOU in a dream. That is what it is suggesting that they would want the games to eventually be like.

But we are a long long way off anything like that. So I would say the title is still misleading :P

XD I disagree tbh, not in terms of the aesthetic immersion, that certainly is a while off. But if ye are a long time gamer, ye will know that the treatment (or better your sentiments) towards a character can still develop without full sensual immersion. An RPG for example, Final Fantasy 7 would be a perfect analogy if ye have played it, (ill think of another if ye havnt). And many books, films and music creates a very similiar feeling of sentiment.

Whats different about this is that there is no storys or switches. there is no NPC's. Can a truly diverse set of circumstances occur in this if sandbox human behaviour is as free as possible. Sooo i think its still on topic :P

[3rdparty 229]

I haven't read the comics, so I wouldn't know. But i do enjoy the show.

You are meant to survive the zombie apocalypse in this game, This game already has the ability of slavery (I believe we've all seen that video). This game is a sandbox, if you want to capture fresh spaws and force them to fight to the death, that is a possibility. I do not see what needs to be added, that would not be unneccessary and drive players away.

Err i havnt seen that video, but i am intrigued. And so far i dont think ye can do that (but i would like to see this video), with no real capture/imprisonment mechanics, or incentive for new spawn not to go "fuck it, respawn/run blindly/turtle walk to freedom!"

[N0DemonZ 17]

Books and films at this present time are different to games because they can achieve something games cannot at this current point in time.

Yes you can connected with a Character now but they aren't trying to talk about the simple thing of connecting with a character.

They also mean connecting with it on a personal and emotional level to where you take the decisions as if it is You. That is what they mean by it is a Dream. These type of games wouldn't have a main character set in stone, You would create the main character.

Dayz while you have a character and a free world in some aspect to do as you please, I feel it is not in depth enough to have the need to be censored.

The only way I see a game being censored in anyway on any level is if they have some sort of shocking choice or option in the game, for example the ability to rape or physically abuse one's wife (In a game where you could marry someone for example).

[3rdparty 229]

Change the name of the topic or something, it's misleading.

And this topic is mostly pointless anyways.

PS: wut.

Cant change topic names, also slightly misleading but defiantly on topic, if thats all youve got to post then im afraid youve also missed the irony in evoking the word pointless.

But ill give ye a chance not to come across like your profile pic. Why be it pointless? this is the "General Discussion" Forum?

[ratfever 27]

Err i havnt seen that video, but i am intrigued. And so far i dont think ye can do that (but i would like to see this video), with no real capture/imprisonment mechanics, or incentive for new spawn not to go "fuck it, respawn/run blindly/turtle walk to freedom!"

Respawn button is gone, and once alt-f4 is fixed, it won't be an issue.

Sorry, I forgot the title of the video, but I blieve it was linked somewhere on here. Search "DayZ slaves" on Youtube perhaps?

[N0DemonZ 17]

This is the aforementioned Slave Video.

[3rdparty 229]

Books and films at this present time are different to games because they can achieve something games cannot at this current point in time.

Yes you can connected with a Character now but they aren't trying to talk about the simple thing of connecting with a character.

They also mean connecting with it on a personal and emotional level to where you take the decisions as if it is You. That is what they mean by it is a Dream. These type of games wouldn't have a main character set in stone, You would create the main character.

Dayz while you have a character and a free world in some aspect to do as you please, I feel it is not in depth enough to have the need to be censored.

The only way I see a game being censored in anyway on any level is if they have some sort of shocking choice or option in the game, for example the ability to rape or physically abuse one's wife (In a game where you could marry someone for example).

Ooooh i wouldnt say that about films, books maybe because of their lucid nature, but films can be more static then games, Feck theres some games that visually look better then the 60s/70s Technicolor switch, so i dont think they are out of each others range.

I see what ye mean, but thats essentially what i be asking, whether the option of extreme brutality/(but also sacrifice, not all grim) is the only way to make a game incredibly immersive that "feels" real. That can be achieved with future tech virtual simulation, but the idea of unlocking sandbox human behavior.

The kind of scenarios that make horrors and stories unique are due to the variety of human behavior that is explored. There are no NPCs on this, no unfolding storys, its up to the players, but how can that be truly diverse if there is limitations on their behavior?

[hunterkilla 67]

Well i havnt seen I Am Legend.

But I can tell ye a huge base of Walking Deads base comes from the powerfully grim comic book, which makes the TV series look like a weeping pussy.

And Book of Eli is, although not so grim, is littered with blatent suggestions of rape, torture and slavery.

The film I am legend isnt a good conversion to film. The book is much more interesting especially the payoff...

[3rdparty 229]

Respawn button is gone, and once alt-f4 is fixed, it won't be an issue.

Sorry, I forgot the title of the video, but I blieve it was linked somewhere on here. Search "DayZ slaves" on Youtube perhaps?

This is the aforementioned Slave Video.

lol disturbing but clearly what im on about. Im sure when this game is finally released and given a right wing pundit review, "slavery" will be one of the shock value words used to attack it.