kieranbrazil91@gmail.com 0 Posted July 25, 2012 I think many of us would agree that BattleEye just does not cut it as a anti-cheat system. I've seen it ban innocent players, continuous hacking and the failure to actually stay on top of any of the hacks that are being used. My server was hacked 5 times in a row with a full population server - the entire population was teleported to a location and mowed down with a helicopter. We managed to go through the logs and ban those responsible (pretty easy to see who it was with the scripts log) But the question is - why doesn't BattleEye seem to have implemented a feature that can detect this? Or report a anomaly in players location (e.g. moving great distances quickly, executing scripts). It doesn't seem to able to keep up with the rapid expansion of the game. Perhaps its time to move to another anti-cheat system that keeps up to date and seems to work. (Sorry, not the biggest fan of BattleEye - too many bad experiences) Also, a question - can Server owners globally ban players? Because I've heard reports of players that I have banned and that are now globally banned? Cheers guys :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimlok (DayZ) 134 Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Punkbuster is just as bad as BattleEye...not to mention the ArmA engine was not built very well to protect against cheats seeing as its a milsim. Your argument is invalid. Edited July 25, 2012 by Grimlok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zyfer.nyholm@gmail.com 131 Posted July 25, 2012 so your calling for a downgrade? nice one -.- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacecaps 101 Posted July 25, 2012 All anticheat systems are shit. Usability or security, you can't choose both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kieranbrazil91@gmail.com 0 Posted July 26, 2012 so your calling for a downgrade? nice one -.->Implying BattleEye is better than PunkbusterKbro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sagemred 85 Posted July 26, 2012 Ahaha, PunkBuster.Good One.Seriously though, PunkBuster sucks. Yes, more so than BattleEye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
resident_leeonheart@yahoo.com 32 Posted July 26, 2012 Seriously Punkbuster? Have you tried APB Reloaded? It's full of hackers and aimbots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrix27 54 Posted July 26, 2012 I will be damned the day a reliable anti cheat system comes out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripbabyg@hotmail.co.uk 125 Posted July 26, 2012 The scripts are detected, they run it through a program to bypass Battle-eye, close the program and the scripts can be used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy James 18 Posted July 26, 2012 Battleye is shit but I think the problem is more with how Arma2 is so script based. That being said I did get a chuckle from the Steam store page for OA that listed "CHEAT PROTECTION" prominently as a key feature of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted July 26, 2012 Back when I was playing Battlefield 3, people were pissed off because Punkbuster same as you are at Battleye.Sad truth is, that we are not winning the war with cheaters / hackers, they are always one or more steps ahead :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blindingsun 233 Posted July 26, 2012 Punkbuster is shit..... has been forever. kicks LEGIT players before hackers. dafuq? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machomanugget 26 Posted July 26, 2012 To be fair there all easily exploitable whatever anti-cheat you have in place...And to be honest you should thankfull the guys working at battleye BIS and Dayz do what they do..nevermind coming on here Bashing there software, they do work hard with keeping up tracking whats being used and done to cheat then swinging the ban hammer and sorting alot of accounts at once, as it should be, no they probably wont ever win but its trying to keep up they work at.. Also with such a popular mod / game there will allways be many more emo 12 year old fucktards wanting to ruin everyones funWhy dont you go and code your own full proof online game software anti-cheat, Mr 2guns and a few others i'm sure will welcome you with open arms..plus you will become legends of the DayZ community, i cant wait to see your workepic! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sheogorath 0 Posted July 26, 2012 I'm not sure how difficult it would be to implement, or if its being done already, but wouldn't be easier to do an automated whitelist of the scripts that can be run and the people that can run them; and whomever runs an unauthorized script along with not being in the list of allowed people(server admins), gets a global IP and CD-key ban? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blindingsun 233 Posted July 26, 2012 Even world of warcraft has hackers. and blizzard/activision are probably the richest software developers out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wexzor 2 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Even world of warcraft has hackers. and blizzard/activision are probably the richest software developers out there.Not really... Edited July 26, 2012 by Wexzor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blindingsun 233 Posted July 26, 2012 Not really...yes actually. do you know how much they make per year JUST from WoW? 12 million x £8,99 x12 = £1294,560000 yes that's one thousand two hundred and ninety four MILLION per year. JUST from Warcraft, and that's BEFORE Diablo 3 + real money AH.+ Call of duty + Skylanders yes they have overheads and staff to pay. but trust me, only maybe EA are close to having that much money.yeah mate. they're the poorest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuzerre 64 Posted July 26, 2012 BattleEye: Not too good.PunkBuster: Kicks legit players.What is the worse, what is the best... When it'll be a standalone, something different may occur, but otherwise... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a_casual_banana 38 Posted July 26, 2012 Punkbuster is even worse than Battleye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogster (DayZ) 626 Posted July 26, 2012 Punkbuster is even worse than Battleye.Utter tosh.Do you have a clue what you are even talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripbabyg@hotmail.co.uk 125 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) yes actually. do you know how much they make per year JUST from WoW? 12 million x £8,99 x12 = £1294,560000 yes that's one thousand two hundred and ninety four MILLION per year. JUST from Warcraft, and that's BEFOREDiablo 3 + real money AH.+ Call of duty+ Skylandersyes they have overheads and staff to pay. but trust me, only maybe EA are close to having that much money.yeah mate. they're the poorest.Actually, Activision is majority owned by Vivendi as of the merger in July 9, 2008 now know as Activision blizzard, Vivendi also own Blizzard entertainment by majority share, Thus making Vivendi probably massively rich, CoD produces Billions of dollars a year when each game is released.As of January 18, 2010, it has taken over $1 billion in sales - modern warfare 2By December 22, worldwide revenue of Black Ops exceeded $1 billion.Sales remained strong months after the game's release, remaining at the top-seller list in February 2011 - Black OpsModern Warfare 3 went on to gross $1 billion throughout the world in 16 days of availability, Modern Warfare 3 topped the UK video game sales chart in its first week, becoming the biggest video game launch in history by revenue. By November 21, 2011, the game remained the bestselling title in the United Kingdom, despite sales dropping by 87%.Modern Warfare 3 held the top spot on the UK charts for a third week and fourth week running.Probably as you said, the richist developer in the world. Edited July 26, 2012 by Authentic92 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blindingsun 233 Posted July 26, 2012 Actually, Activision is majority owned by Vivendi as of the merger in July 9, 2008 now know as Activision blizzard, Vivendi also own Blizzard entertainment by majority share. yeah but they're still the same company. it's called "Blizzard-Activision" now if you look on boxes. so I'm sure their profits are consolodated. either way. they've got a fucktruck of cash compared to most developers, and still get hackers. *my original point* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripbabyg@hotmail.co.uk 125 Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) yeah but they're still the same company. it's called "Blizzard-Activision" now if you look on boxes. so I'm sure their profits are consolodated. either way. they've got a fucktruck of cash compared to most developers, and still get hackers. *my original point*Read my edit'd post, i was agreeing with you :PEdit, They deal with hackers alot better than most companies except they let the leader-boards get fucking ruined every year and take a good 3month to fix it.Edit 2, Blizzards Warden anti hack is quite good compared to a few others.Edit 3, I have not played any of the CoD games on a PC so i could not tell you how terrible the anti hack is, but for console it's solid never seen 1 hacker, only leader board abusers. Edited July 26, 2012 by Authentic92 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrath (DayZ) 140 Posted July 26, 2012 I'm not sure how difficult it would be to implement, or if its being done already, but wouldn't be easier to do an automated whitelist of the scripts that can be run and the people that can run them; and whomever runs an unauthorized script along with not being in the list of allowed people(server admins), gets a global IP and CD-key ban?This sounds like a good idea. Is it plausible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
random51 172 Posted July 26, 2012 Thanks to battleye I can't even play DayZ for more than 10 minutes at a time. Something happened after 95054 beta that makes Battleye end up "not responding" 5-15 minutes after I login to a server.I'd rather have punkbuster, it hasn't ever prevented me from playing any hl/hl2 mod/tf2/l4d/etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
