need the ability to give yourself a blood transfusion

[tank77 11]

the title says it all

[umandez 139]

Not going to happen.

[Evan858 3]

Way to make your argument, I was hoping to read some well thought out input but you just lost this battle

[0only1 4]

There's food. Just eat some and you are done

[xDIx Revenge 51]

Blood transfusions are one of the systems in place to promote cooperation and team work. It will not become something you can do on your own. Just go find a cow, kill it, take its meat, cook that, and hey presto. You just gained 6,400 blood worth of meat.

[vision1776 42]

I dont necessarily agree but maybe allow a player to give himself a blood transfusion while he is located at a hospital? That seems fair enough atleast. I do enjoy the "team play" that blood transfusions induce though.

BTW incase any noobs out there... Eating cooked meat restores plenty of blood. I think its 700 - 800 blood I dont remember which one.

[iDeeJayTre 1]

Food op :) Cook It

[EnermaX 59]

Not going to happen.

This.

[llodka 4]

Blood transfusions are one of the systems in place to promote cooperation and team work. It will not become something you can do on your own. Just go find a cow, kill it, take its meat, cook that, and hey presto. You just gained 6,400 blood worth of meat.

Well blood transfusions haven't made me cooperate and seek team work, so not working as intended.

Just another penalty for people who want to survive alone.

[umandez 139]

Way to make your argument, I was hoping to read some well thought out input but you just lost this battle

What would be the point in agrueing about something that will never happen?

It's like me arguing that jesus should allow me to spawn ponies in real life and give me golden unicorn donuts. As much as I would love that to happen. It's not going too, therefore said counter argument is not needed.

Well blood transfusions haven't made me cooperate and seek team work, so not working as intended.

Just another penalty for people who want to survive alone.

Humans are pack animals, we try to survive in groups, it's in our nature. You are an odd ball and wish to survive on your own. You being like this is your fault. When a zombie apocalypse does come you are going to be fucked and incredibly lonely, most likely will become insane very quickly too.

Also to add, It's not Rockets intention to "Force" you to team play. That's why you can also restore blood through cooked meat also (800pts). It's to sublty add a "teamplay" element. This isn't a game after all its an experiment.

Edited July 17, 2012 by Dez.

[disorder 344]

Way to make your argument, I was hoping to read some well thought out input but you just lost this battle

You'll get a lot of that here. Especially people going "NO!" because they think their opinion is somehow the end of a discussion because they say so, even though in reality that's what most of their parents said when they were conceived.

Edited July 17, 2012 by disorder

[Evan858 3]

What would be the point in agrueing about something that will never happen?

It's like me arguing that jesus should allow me to spawn ponies in real life and give me golden unicorn donuts. As much as I would love that to happen. It's not going too, therefore said counter argument is not needed.

i was just being smart haha, sorry for not establishing that

[disorder 344]

However I don't think blood should be given to self. I have a different idea that involves better food I will post it in another topic.

[llodka 4]

Humans are pack animals, we try to survive in groups, it's in our nature. You are an odd ball and wish to survive on your own. You being like this is your fault. When a zombie apocalypse does come you are going to be fucked and incredibly lonely, most likely will become insane very quickly too.

Also to add, It's not Rockets intention to "Force" you to team play. That's why you can also restore blood through cooked meat also (800pts). It's to sublty add a "teamplay" element. This isn't a game after all its an experiment.

When the zombie apocalypse comes 99% of people will not shoot on sight. Until the game addresses that the blood transfusion will continue to be a penalty to lone survivors as the game in it's current form does not promote teamplay from within. ( and by that I exclude pre organised clans/friends as thats not entirely in the ethos of the game). Perhaps I have this game down wrong and it's just another shooter, in which case I wish the devs would just say so.

[Frozen (DayZ) 144]

Blood transfusions are one of the systems in place to promote cooperation and team work.

any logical explanation behind that system?

[umandez 139]

When the zombie apocalypse comes 99% of people will not shoot on sight. Until the game addresses that the blood transfusion will continue to be a penalty to lone survivors as the game in it's current form does not promote teamplay from within. ( and by that I exclude pre organised clans/friends as thats not entirely in the ethos of the game). Perhaps I have this game down wrong and it's just another shooter, in which case I wish the devs would just say so.

So you're telling me, if you were in a real zombie apocalypse and you had some scary arse Russian dude muttering and walking around a pub that you are in and you are hiding around a corner in a room and all you can hear is his pounding footsteps as he gets closer to the door clutching your makarov to your chest, not knowing if hes armed to the teeth or not. The terror of the living dead haunting your dreams when ever you try to sleep. The door starts to open very slowly and you see the barrel of the gun poking through the door. What do you do?

Society has crashed for several months now and everything has gone to chaos, you are a trained marksman ontop of a roof in cherno and you can hear the faint growns and crys of Zombies in the distance all around you and you're starving, You see a lone armed survivor, what do you do? Shout and give away your position? Or leave him be to steal all the food you so desperately want?

[americanman1243@yahoo.com 1]

No.

Hunt animals or make friends. The system is fine.

[llodka 4]

So you're telling me, if you were in a real zombie apocalypse and you had some scary arse Russian dude muttering and walking around a pub that you are in and you are hiding around a corner in a room and all you can hear is his pounding footsteps as he gets closer to the door clutching your makarov to your chest, not knowing if hes armed to the teeth or not. The terror of the living dead haunting your dreams when ever you try to sleep. The door starts to open very slowly and you see the barrel of the gun poking through the door. What do you do?

Society has crashed for several months now and everything has gone to chaos, you are a trained marksman ontop of a roof in cherno and you can hear the faint growns and crys of Zombies in the distance all around you and you're starving, You see a lone armed survivor, what do you do? Shout and give away your position? Or leave him be to steal all the food you so desperately want?

What's this gto to do with the discussion at hand? I can give examples where shooting is totally unnecessary, but it doesn't alter the fact that the current system of blood transfusions do not foster cooperation.

[Dr. Toros 8]

What's this gto to do with the discussion at hand? I can give examples where shooting is totally unnecessary, but it doesn't alter the fact that the current system of blood transfusions do not foster cooperation.

They actually do foster cooperation. The problem is that there's so much else that doesn't. Random respawns mean noobs don't get spawn killed, but it also means they spend their early deaths with no idea where they are.

The removal of side chat, and the inability to send tells means that unless you add someone on steam, you'll never see them in-game instead, and if you do, you'll both probably shoot each other because you can't recognize anyone due to no customizion of the player skins.

It's not just that shooting is so rewarding, it's that the game supports teamplay as little as possible besides bloodbags. Groups always use teamspeak or some similar program because the in-game tools are pathetic.

Edited July 17, 2012 by Dr. Toros

[llodka 4]

They actually do foster cooperation. The problem is that there's so much else that doesn't. Random respawns mean noobs don't get spawn killed, but it also means they spend their early deaths with no idea where they are.

The removal of side chat, and the inability to send tells means that unless you add someone on steam, you'll never see them in-game instead, and if you do, you'll both probably shoot each other because you can't recognize anyone due to no customizion of the player skins.

It's not just that shooting is so rewarding, it's that the game supports teamplay as little as possible besides bloodbags. Groups always use teamspeak or some similar program because the in-game tools are pathetic.

The ingame tools are realistic not pathetic. It all comes down to what you want from a game.

If I need blood I'll get food. If I didn't have access to blood regenration then perhaps blood bags would foster teamplay or I'd just call one of those wonderful medics again. But it would still only be shortlived. More like a trade or favour.

There really is little point in having bloodbags only accessible through other players.

[umandez 139]

It had lots of relevance to your post.

You say it doesn't? Hmm funny that. I can call my buddies from the other side of the map as they will pop over in a vehicle if im really low on blood and give me a transfusion. That's called team play. We work together in this world.

[llodka 4]

Some muttering russian, and having no food in cherno (yeah right) has no relevance on its own.

You're getting the posts confused.

And to address your teamplay example. You don't need your buddy to pop over with a bag when you can regen with food. Like I said, unless the only way of regening blood is to have someone else do it, there really is no point in the current blood transfusion system.

[enforcer1975 1111]

There should be more things you can't do alone so people will see that living alone in an apocalype is way harder than in groups. Like splinting a fracture or move when you get really sick and need antibiotics...you name it. Only the touchest will be able to give themselves first aid...it's not like in the rambo movies where you just put gun propellant into your wound and ignite it ;p

[umandez 139]

Some muttering russian, and having no food in cherno (yeah right) has no relevance on its own.

You're getting the posts confused.

And to address your teamplay example. You don't need your buddy to pop over with a bag when you can regen with food. Like I said, unless the only way of regening blood is to have someone else do it, there really is no point in the current blood transfusion system.

You just don't get it.

[llodka 4]

You just don't get it.

logical argument fail