Hiding Bodies fix to be fair.

[paradox. 12]

Everyone keeps complaining about hiding bodies and wanting it out of the game....

How about just make it more realistic you need to be outside and have a shovel to hide a body and also once hidden the body the loot doesn't disappear but the fly sound does.

-Shovel

can be found in barns

can be used as a melee weapon

is used for burying bodies

(sorry if been suggested before just wanted to post because its annoying with all the people complaining)

[Deviant (DayZ) 43]

How is it unfair to hide a body?

[L0G!N (DayZ) 149]

yeah i included a shovel & 'pack' for this purpose in my 'if you are good at something' suggestion after it came up in a thread about hiding bodies. Guess having it discussed specifically isn't to bad :)

@Deviant: How is it a problem to make it more authentic and require a shovel?

Most would view loot-denial as somewhat of a 'troll' and tbqh. it totally defeats the purpose of the flies alerting you to a fresh body, that then doesn't seem to be there... If the hiding would require a shovel less people would likely be able to hide a body, which may make it an interesting thing to check out again. As of now i learned to just totally ignore flies as there is no body there in about 95% of the time...

Edited July 17, 2012 by L0GIN

[paradox. 12]

How is it unfair to hide a body?

I don't know at all but so many complain about it.

[Deviant (DayZ) 43]

Authentic?

SInce you can't carry dead bodies, ArmA2 used a system where "hiding the body" makes it sink into the ground, instead of having some complicated mechanic that puts the body behind barrels, into a hay stack, etc.

Burying bodies in the ground would take so long, and having a shovel to do it super fast wouldn't really change anything, other than new / careless / shovel-less players leaving behind tracks.

[L0G!N (DayZ) 149]

Well as far as i know Arma2 also doesn't have loot on bodies, and we are not talking about Arma2 ... we are talking about DayZ that, when making use of this feature of the Arma2 engine, give people the option to totally deny loot to other people. If you hear flies you should be excited, because it's likely you found both a place where somebody died recently, so it may be dangerous there, and a chance to find some loot. Now it just means that somebody killed some-one else he hid the body and is likely long gone... and yes it is 'authentic' in a sense that to have a body sink in the ground you generally use a shovel ...

The shovel would create the need to have a shovel, just like all tools and med supplies create a need to do something, it's how DayZ works... so yeah if you don't have a shovel then you can't hide bodies, so you leave a trail, perhaps best not to kill humans/zombies untill you got a shovel, or kill, get your loot and get out... all bodies despawn eventually anyways...

I personally think it's a good thing to implement and i don't see what your problem with it is? Anything that makes this game a tad harder (without being to far out or OP) should be implemented. That way, in order to make the game harder, there won't have to be 'far out' or OP things implemented in the game.

[Haplo (DayZ) 44]

if you want hiding bodies to be fair, for starters: people shouldn't be able to loot their own body

i like the shovel/bury idea, but you should be able to carry or drag bodies too..

i'd also like to use the shovel (or hatchet/whatever) to just smash the sht out of all their gear... i probably wouldn't even bother burying the body

[zipper 69]

I don't know at all but so many complain about it.

Pretty sure this is the first post I have ever seen complaining about it.

[CraftZ49 18]

if you want hiding bodies to be fair, for starters: people shouldn't be able to loot their own body

Alright then I'll get my friends to loot my body and give me my stuff.

[thorgold 91]

Alright then I'll get my friends to loot my body and give me my stuff.

Then how about you not being allowed to play another character on that server, and characters/gear become server specific? The entire "unfairness" of hiding bodies is that it keeps you from getting your gear back. If the OP thinks that hiding bodies is unrealistic, then a mirror mechanic should be added to prevent unrealistic meta gaming like cross-character gaming.

Stop whining. When you die, your gear is gone. There's NO SUCH THING as fair, not in this game or in real life.

[paradox. 12]

Well as far as i know Arma2 also doesn't have loot on bodies, and we are not talking about Arma2 ... we are talking about DayZ that, when making use of this feature of the Arma2 engine, give people the option to totally deny loot to other people. If you hear flies you should be excited, because it's likely you found both a place where somebody died recently, so it may be dangerous there, and a chance to find some loot. Now it just means that somebody killed some-one else he hid the body and is likely long gone... and yes it is 'authentic' in a sense that to have a body sink in the ground you generally use a shovel ...

The shovel would create the need to have a shovel, just like all tools and med supplies create a need to do something, it's how DayZ works... so yeah if you don't have a shovel then you can't hide bodies, so you leave a trail, perhaps best not to kill humans/zombies untill you got a shovel, or kill, get your loot and get out... all bodies despawn eventually anyways...

I personally think it's a good thing to implement and i don't see what your problem with it is? Anything that makes this game a tad harder (without being to far out or OP) should be implemented. That way, in order to make the game harder, there won't have to be 'far out' or OP things implemented in the game.

Thank you im glad someone responded intelligently and yes i agree with what you said i was just trying to make that mechanic fit in the game without trying to remove it.

[paradox. 12]

Pretty sure this is the first post I have ever seen complaining about it.

I wasn't complaining i was complaining about the complainers xP

link to complainer http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/24173-hide-body/page__hl__+hiding%20+bodies#entry299304

Edited July 17, 2012 by paradox.

[Haplo (DayZ) 44]

Alright then I'll get my friends to loot my body and give me my stuff.

you quoted me yourself: "for starters".

i was going to say; it should completely lock the gear from the player that it died with, for perhaps, 24 hours? this ban would transfer across servers, but if you manage to get your gear back from an opponent after that, you can keep it. if there was some kind of friend system i would also suggest that gear cannot be given to you by friends.

you can have some pity beans for the failed troll..

Edited July 17, 2012 by Haplo

[crimsom 2]

heres an idea to hiding bodies!!!!! once a person is dead any zombies with in agro range will eventually smell it and eat the thing till it turns to a pile of bones and w/e gear is left over. i think you should be able to drag dead bodies arround but hiding them come on? how does one make something dissappear into thin air.

[antiskub2.0 17]

i personally think it is a silly addition and really only used for the purposes of adding insult to injury. Just my opinion.

[KyleAlexander 4]

Maybe there has to be a nearby bush or something to hide it? you shouldn't be able to hide a body in a building... They just sink into the floor... Kill a zombie in the second floor in a barn. Then hide it, it floats XD

[Stubbies 67]

Not shovel, utilize the entrenching tool. Just like the hatchet :)

[Ribano 46]

just make it so you can't hide bodies, and you can't loot your own body. nextttt

[Strategos (DayZ) 190]

I like the principal.

Make hiding require the entrenching tool, take longer and only be doable on soft ground.

So you can drag a body into the woods and bury it if you really feel the need.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

Well where is the unfairness, you shouldn't be able to get your gear back in the first place :/

[Quaby 93]

^ Yeah, people complaining, "I cAN't g3t MAI ub3r l33T LEWT since sum1 HIDES IT. G3t R1d 0f it SINcE is sux."

That's how it's supposed to work....

That sentence took forever to type ;)