skyter 299 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) *****SORRY I COULDN'T RESPOND TO THREAD FOR A WEEK. CURGON DECIDED TO BANISH ME FOR WEEK WITH A BS "SPAM" VIOLATION******( v OBVIOUS SARCASM v )New proposition: you kill a player fresh off the beach without any murders, your player character model changes to a giant pink dildo with arms and legs. After all it's just a reflection of your karma.-------------------------------------------------------I'm now citing this sadist as a prime example of why this game will die after the hype if things don't balance themselves out:http://dayzmod.com/f...-far-in-cherno/Humanity is broken. If you're close enough to have your heart beat, you're already dead, it's just stupid. Really stupid.This Game is a death match with zombies at best.Players are just griefing twats who would rather shoot one person for their stuff than loot to survive, and the game encourages it with no down side at this point, while not killing someone pretty much seals your fate. So why risk letting someone live?In the last 24 hours i've been:Killed 2 times by falling into the ground, causing broken bones and massive bleedsKilled 1 time by vaulting , getting stuck in the object and the game having a seizure.Killed 1 time by a door opening inward on me.Killed 1 time by spawning on top of another player.Spawned 5 times at full health, in shock and unconscious for a 3 minute wait with a blurred screen.I've had my tents reset 7 times in the last 3 days, losing rare items up the ying-yang, including but not limited to: FALs, M14s, M4 CCO's, M24s, M9 SDs, MP5SDs, Kobras, m16 w/ 203s and ghillie suits.But even with the huge amount, it's not even the game that's the most frustrating with all the bugs; It's the people. With their sheep mentality of shooting on site with no regard for other players, because other players do it and because there is no weight to the decision. I wouldn't mind spending the time to reacquire gear if I knew it wasn't going to be striped by a bush wookie with an enfield for no reason everyspawn. Some of you think it's funny, some of you will give the obligatory "QQ moar" or "TL;DR". Some of you think it's a 'realistic' mentality to kill humans on sight when the human race is supposedly on the brink of death,To that I say: You're exactly what's wrong with the game. You're forcing an entire community to play one specific style in a sandbox game or suffer because they don't. This game will die out soon after the newness is gone and people realize zombies are almost an after thought to people playing at this point.DUMBED DOWN POST FOR ADHD ADDLED KIDS : http://wikkedtribe.c...me-a-douche.jpgIt's just sad and It's getting worse. People. People ruin everything. Not a chance in hell I would be dumb enough to pay for a game in the future to get griefed non-stop. I shouldn't be forced to kill other players on site because they're forced to kill me with the same mentality, especially when it's completely unnecessary. Server hoppers barricading everything with tanks, wire spools, and sandbags just to annoy people. :beans: :thumbsup:If you agree and would like to group up, message me, as I have a friendly group that's more than willing to outfit you with the best gear. (numbers usually dissuade the lone bandits and griefers)Update: Rescinding the above offer because bandits think I'm dumb. 12.7mm bullets taught them otherwise. When in doubt, use a stand in.I'm not endorsing specific ideas; this is a discussion. Feel free to throw suggestions out to test the water. If you really feel it's a good idea go post it in the suggestion section. I'm not looking to sugar coat the game just add more emotion and depth to conscious player choices. Edited August 6, 2012 by skyter 135 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ganjastar 53 Posted July 17, 2012 yawn. there's a sticky thread for this topic for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
langile 2 Posted July 17, 2012 +1This, and direct chat seems to be broken half the time, meaning those who are actually trying to ask friendly aren't getting a response because the message isn't getting through. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neek (DayZ) 53 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Its an alpha test you whining oxygen thief.Edit: Thanks for the beans lol :) Edited July 26, 2012 by Neek 28 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fraggle (DayZ) 15720 Posted July 17, 2012 Dude, your doing something seriousley wrong. If I was you I would stop playing for a bit, take a holiday, read a book and generally chill out. Come back when the games in better shape it sounds like your not really enjoying it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disgraced 1123 Posted July 17, 2012 Not your thing, but that's cool. Our zombies is in another castle.... Come back later. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JesterEric 67 Posted July 17, 2012 There's another place you can post this.And I don't mean to be rude but I only skimmed your post because it's just like many before it, but your comment: You're exactly what's wrong with the game. You're forcing an entire community to play one specific style in a sandbox game or suffer because they don'tI've just got to say that's like real life. lots of people make good money off stealing from others. The challenge of the game is to stick to your morals if you want to be a good person. I HATE killing other players in the game, even the bandits that shoot me first, but if I group up with someone I ALWAYS have the devil in the back of my head saying "if you kill him you get his stuff" it's an awesome and waunderful thing. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lordopeth 274 Posted July 17, 2012 We all know who the giant pink dildo is...dont we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrix27 54 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) The butthurt, is strong with this one.Also if you don't want to get shot, then you should consider shooting first. If not, then cry me a river.Oh and another thing, a key factor in this game is realism. Thats how things would go down if this happened in real life, whether you believe or not.Tissue? Edited July 17, 2012 by Hendrix27 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alienxxi 27 Posted July 17, 2012 It sucks when people kill you when you worked two days to gather stuff. So after my main character has been killed, I just spend the next week or so running around cherno "training" zombies onto other players until I'm ready to play seriously again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFK 102 Posted July 17, 2012 To that I say: You're exactly what's wrong with the game. You're forcing an entire community to play one specific style in a sandbox game or suffer because they don't.This made me think a bit.From what I've experienced, Day Z is not really a sandbox at all. The current parameters of the game force you to either group with others on external voice chat and shoot all others on sight, or wander around alone and kill all others on sight. Any other playstyle is heavily penalized through constant deaths and loot loss.But I'm still going to play, I want to see where this goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Numinak 10 Posted July 17, 2012 It sucks when people kill you when you worked two days to gather stuff. So after my main character has been killed, I just spend the next week or so running around cherno "training" zombies onto other players until I'm ready to play seriously again.^This.Once I die, I'm getting a flare, running through cherno making as much noise as possible, singing in direct chat and see how many zeds I can collect and train on over to some griefer :) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psyl3nt 125 Posted July 17, 2012 It's not "griefing" if it's an intented method of play. Griefing is usually "spoiling" the game by doing things that you should not be, grey area sure. But saying that killing people is griefing is a long stretch that's like saying killing people in an FPS deathmatch is griefing.DayZ is deathmatch, it's PVP, with a PvE element. And on top of all that it's not yet a "game", it's an alpha, a sufacing idea, nothing more at this stage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xarok777@gmail.com 205 Posted July 17, 2012 Not a chance in hell I would be dumb enough to pay for a game in the future to get griefed non-stop .I think you are right, this alpha test and eventual game release is not for you. Good thing you chose to get out now before it made you mad, as it has made you mad. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumdum 29 Posted July 17, 2012 LOL If you really want to pay to be "griefed" and see how easily a group of players can ruin a game entirely, might I suggest Mortal. At least in Dayz you have a chance and/or can hide like a little girl when needed. To make Dayz the worst experience I've had, you'd have to move the location to Normandy :P 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyter 299 Posted July 17, 2012 The butthurt, is strong with this one.Also if you don't want to get shot, then you should consider shooting first. If not, then cry me a river.Oh and another thing, a key factor in this game is realism. That's how things would go down if this happened in real life, whether you believe or not.Tissue?Keep telling yourself that dude. In a real situation like this, people would band together, not murder each other for fun in the middle of no where. I reinforce players with your mind set are the problem with the game. I'm not against it, but there needs to be a draw back.My camp consists of 10+ tents with enough loot that even a clan couldn't haul it all away. I was having more fun when the zombies were broken in 1.7.2.1 because it actually required people to work together or avoid each other.Stop equating murdering to thieving IRL. Because A, a majority of the population doesn't fucking steal, let a lone murder and steal. And, B, It's 99% of players, stop using retard logic.It made people really think about firing near cities, Now it's back to camping bandits killing for frills. And p.s. Hendrix, everyone knows you're a cut throatBut in the end, you can't argue with backwards logic like you're doing. IRL I shoot you with any caliber you're not walking away. IRL people don't clip through doors. IRL people don't D/C if they miss the first time or are in trouble. IRL people don't just fucking murder people for the thrill. IRL any kind of crash over 20kpm is going to damage a vehicle pretty substantially. IRL someone biting you won't break a femur. IRL people don't get better from gunshots or horrible wounds by eating. IRL people don't become dehydrated in 20 minutes. IRL people don't starve in 20 minutes. IRL people don't spurt blood like a fountain.IRL; people play games to have fun. In this game that's synonymous with ruining other players fun and turning away future potential players. now go away bandit. 31 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jovial 17 Posted July 17, 2012 Its a sandbox game, of course PvP and banditry will be rampant, even when they add decent group content (base building, electricity, stuff to block logins within a radius, maybe more vehicles, etc).You had the right idea at the end of your post though. Thats the way to go about things in a sandbox game. Change the rules yourself. Get a group together, join a clan, get some friends into it. Do things your own way. It can be done, even if its hard, you just have to realize that you can't impose your own mindset and playstyle on the majority of the players out there. Roll with it or leave. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyter 299 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) And for the record, my suggestion was facetious, hence why it isn't in the suggestion section"it's not a game"gtfo of here. Just because it's not a finished product doesn't make it not a game. So much retard logic in this thread. A modified game is still a game. Without criticism things don't move forward. This isn't my first alpha, and I'm not even complaining about bugs. I'm complaining about the nature of player intereactions and the complete fallacy of the logic surrounding it.I made a joke about the nature of players being dicks in this game, and that causing a chain reaction eventually devolving into what we have here. Not hard to tell who the dedicated player killers are based on the responses. ;)The fact you know anyone you see is going to try to kill you, defeats the purpose of player interactions now. It removes all the uneasy tension and moral dilemma of it. THERE IS NO WEIGHT TO PLAYER KILLING for the one doing the killing.but no, idiots will just "GO QQ MOARZ! LOLOLOL HE MAD!11! ZOMG IT'S TEH ALFAS" rather than have any sort of discussion on risk vs. reward. Edited July 17, 2012 by skyter 13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyter 299 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Its a sandbox game, of course PvP and banditry will be rampant, even when they add decent group content (base building, electricity, stuff to block logins within a radius, maybe more vehicles, etc).You had the right idea at the end of your post though. Thats the way to go about things in a sandbox game. Change the rules yourself. Get a group together, join a clan, get some friends into it. Do things your own way. It can be done, even if its hard, you just have to realize that you can't impose your own mindset and playstyle on the majority of the players out there. Roll with it or leave.But the fact there is no grouping system, coupled with rampant player killing makes things really chaotic really fast. I am part of a group like I've said. That doesn't stop instances of friendly fire if we're not in a chat due to the nature of the game. I've been killed by my own friendlies because they won't take time to determine whether the person in front of them is hostile when in our own territory.Nothing better than getting an M1911 round in the back of the head followed by 6 steam chat sounds of your buddy saying "OMG I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS YOU! SO SORRY! I'll WATCH YOUR STUFF!""PvP with PvE element thrown in" : ass backwards, it's player vs. environment with PvP mixed in. Edited July 17, 2012 by skyter 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoRogely 5 Posted July 17, 2012 And for the record, my suggestion was facetious, hence why it isn't in the suggestion section"it's not a game"gtfo of here. Just because it's not a finished product doesn't make it not a game. So much retard logic in this thread. A modified game is still a game. Without criticism things don't move forward. This isn't my first alpha, and I'm not even complaining about bugs. I'm complaining about the nature of player intereactions and the complete fallacy of the logic surrounding it.I made a joke about the nature of players being dicks in this game, and that causing a chain reaction eventually devolving into what we have here. Not hard to tell who the dedicated player killers are based on the responses. ;)The fact you know anyone you see is going to try to kill you, defeats the purpose of player interactions now. It removes all the uneasy tension and moral dilemma of it. THERE IS NO WEIGHT TO PLAYER KILLING for the one doing the killing.but no, idiots will just "GO QQ MOARZ! LOLOLOL HE MAD!11! ZOMG IT'S TEH ALFAS" rather than have any sort of discussion on risk vs. reward.Re: It's a game:http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/6487-wtf-is-happening-to-the-server-community/page__st__200#entry67815 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fish911503 136 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Fucking idiots always respond to posts of this type with the same lame shit. What i gleen from these posts is that the OP and others like...don't want to dictate how anyone else plays the game and also dont want to eliminate pvp...what WE"RE asking is a way to tell friend from foe. If I had a way of telling scumbag faggot bandits from friendlies id be happily try to blow you away. Thats still pvp morons. Instead we got a bunch of late to the game deathmatch faggots who DO dictate how everyone else plays the game. Rocket is fucking himself in the ass by not doing something about this. All this would do would be to form two major factions in the game.People who want to try and rebuild society and selfish sneaks who are only out for themselves. I for one am not telling anyone how to play the game. Im saying give me a way to identify bandits/murdurer. If Rocket doesnt want to do that then give players the ability to subdue and permenantly mark them or at least see the number of murders they have. You dont think in a "real" apocolyp there would be people trying to re-organize society. Really the only person my frustration should be AIMED AT IS ROCKET. for fucking up something that could have been great. Your experiment is over Rocket, the results are in...the world is full of selfish assholes. Edited July 17, 2012 by playZ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoRogely 5 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) Fucking idiots always respond to posts of this type with the same lame shit. What i gleen from these posts is that the OP and others like...don't want to dictate how anyone else plays the game and also dont want to eliminate pvp...what WE"RE asking is a way to tell friend from foe. If I had a way of telling scumbag faggot bandits from friendlies id be happily try to blow you away. Thats still pvp morons. Instead we got a bunch of late to the game deathmatch faggots who DO dictate how everyone else plays the game. Rocket is fucking himself in the ass by not doing something about this. All this would do would be to form two major factions in the game.People who want to try and rebuild society and selfish sneaks who are only out for themselves. I for one am not telling anyone how to play the game. Im saying give me a way to identify bandits/murdurer. If Rocket doesnt want to do that then give players the ability to subdue and permenantly mark them or at least see the number of murders they have. Really the only person my frustration should be AIMED AT IS ROCKET. for fucking up something that could have been great.Couple things:1) Are you able to identify murderers in real life when you walk up to them? No.2) All your posts are you just bitching. Get over it.3) "You're probably an asshole." (Fix grammar in your sig) Edited July 17, 2012 by RoRogely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moeller.37@wright.edu 6 Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) The butthurt, is strong with this one.Also if you don't want to get shot, then you should consider shooting first. If not, then cry me a river.Oh and another thing, a key factor in this game is realism. Thats how things would go down if this happened in real life, whether you believe or not.Tissue?The only thing realistic in this game is that you die quickly from a gun shot in most cases. You wouldn't kill people in a Zombie apocalypse I'm sorry. Edited July 17, 2012 by I am a Failure (Destry) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fish911503 136 Posted July 17, 2012 Couple things:1) Are you able to identify murderers in real life when you walk up to them? No.2) All your posts are you just bitching. Get over it.3) "You're probably an asshole." (Fix grammar in your sig)Am I able to identify murderers in real life? NO...thats why theres no one in prison for murder asshole.Its not bitching its criticizing. The grammar mistakes are typos. But calling out grammar mistakes is always a convenient way for people with no real argument to sound valid. So you thank me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoRogely 5 Posted July 17, 2012 Am I able to identify murderers in real life? NO...thats why theres no one in prison for murder asshole.Its not bitching its criticizing. The grammar mistakes are typos. But calling out grammar mistakes is always a convenient way for people with no real argument to sound valid. So you thank me.I said when you walk up to them. Not after hours of forensic evaluation and being convicted by a jury of your peers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites