Any 1 else want the lee enfielt nerf?

[grogo 0]

Hello suvivors,

at first i want to apologize for my bad english and hope every1 understand it. ;D

Todays theme is the lee enfield...

the lee enfield is much to storng. Even if it pulls all the zombies. You nearly 1 shoot every player. You only need 1 sec clear site and you kill the other guy. Its a joke that m4 and other weapons wich are found more rarley are this much bullshit. Yeah you got more firerate but what is it for when a guy who just spawned maybe see you and just 1 shoot you its ****** it happend to me much that i got some nice eq and than just got shoot by a guy with nothing else than a lee enfield... I think the lee enfield must be nerfed in some way make it less load and lesser the dmg or make it more rarly. There is atm not point for going imto the lands to search for a m4 or somthing else. When the lee enfield is this strong and you nearly survive 1 hit when you are @ full hp.

mfg grogo

[Sylem 1]

Honestly, I think the Lee is exactly where it should be. It's basically a sniper rifle with no scope, and that's fine. It should just be not as common as it is. I find one in practically every barn.

[Matinek 9]

I think its actually under powered, while yes its common as a gun could possibly be and should have a rarer chance in spawning I think the noise it makes turns a normal rifle into a bloody death sentence, just go to Eletro and shoot that bloody thing, you will have zombie from Stary Sobor coming after you.

[ZedsDeadBaby 2287]

DayZ doesn't exist in a fantasy land. We're not "buffing" and "nerfing" weapons. They are what they are.

The Lee Enfield fires larger bullets with almost twice as much ballistic energy as the M4.

So, no, it is not "bullshit" that it does more damage.

The M4 has plenty of other benefits, not least of which being the ability to fire 900 rounds per minute.

Lee Enfield

Cartridge .303 Mk VII SAA Ball

Action Bolt-action

Muzzle velocity 744 m/s (2,441 ft/s)

Effective range 550 yd (503 m)[2]

Maximum range 3,000 yd (2,743 m)[2]

Ballistic performance

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy

150 gr (9.7 g) SP 844 m/s (2,770 ft/s) 3,463 J (2,554 ft·lbf)

174 gr (11.3 g) HPBT 761 m/s (2,500 ft/s) 3,265 J (2,408 ft·lbf)

180 gr (12 g) SP 783 m/s (2,570 ft/s) 3,574 J (2,636 ft·lbf)

M4

Cartridge 5.56×45mm NATO

Action Gas-operated, rotating bolt

Rate of fire 700–950 round/min cyclic[1]

Muzzle velocity 2970 ft/sec (884 m/sec)[2]

Effective range 500 m for a point target and 600 m for an area target[3]

Ballistic performance

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy

4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT 940 m/s (3,100 ft/s) 1,767 J (1,303 ft·lbf)

4.1 g (63 gr) DM11 FMJBT 936 m/s (3,070 ft/s) 1,796 J (1,325 ft·lbf)

4.1 g (63 gr) GP 90 FMJBT 905 m/s (2,970 ft/s) 1,679 J (1,238 ft·lbf)

Edited July 13, 2012 by ZedsDeadBaby

[hishnik 23]

Hello suvivors,

at first i want to apologize for my bad english and hope every1 understand it. ;D

Todays theme is the lee enfield...

the lee enfield is much to storng. Even if it pulls all the zombies. You nearly 1 shoot every player. You only need 1 sec clear site and you kill the other guy. Its a joke that m4 and other weapons wich are found more rarley are this much bullshit. Yeah you got more firerate but what is it for when a guy who just spawned maybe see you and just 1 shoot you its ****** it happend to me much that i got some nice eq and than just got shoot by a guy with nothing else than a lee enfield... I think the lee enfield must be nerfed in some way make it less load and lesser the dmg or make it more rarly. There is atm not point for going imto the lands to search for a m4 or somthing else. When the lee enfield is this strong and you nearly survive 1 hit when you are @ full hp.

mfg grogo

I disagree, Lee is perfect balance i believe. It does shoot a round the size of a sniper rifle (0.303" vs. 0.308"), and the current damage represents that. You will not one shot a person with it, unless its hit to the head, but you will knock them down. I believe after the shot it leaves 3-4k blood.

Yes, it should be not as common, but it shouldnt be as bad as CZ now is.

You cannot compare Lee to M4. M4 is a carbine, and unless the person gets teh lucky shot, in CQC Lee will not be able to do much. However, at distance Lee will always outperform the M4/AK74s etc.

Summary: No to 'nerfing', Yes to making it just little bit more rare.

Dont read it as making it super rare, I feel that spawning of Tier 1 weapons should be 50% shotguns, 30-35% Lee, 15-20%CZ

[enforcer1975 1111]

Cailber my friend cailber.... this game isn't balanced to that extent like the other fps action shooters you can find out there.

The M4 isnt completly worthless, you will appreciate that when you need semi auto capability and 3x more rounds.

[Lenchy (DayZ) 0]

I disagree, Lee is perfect balance i believe. It does shoot a round the size of a sniper rifle (0.303" vs. 0.308"), and the current damage represents that. You will not one shot a person with it, unless its hit to the head, but you will knock them down. I believe after the shot it leaves 3-4k blood.

Yes, it should be not as common, but it shouldnt be as bad as CZ now is.

You cannot compare Lee to M4. M4 is a carbine, and unless the person gets teh lucky shot, in CQC Lee will not be able to do much. However, at distance Lee will always outperform the M4/AK74s etc.

Summary: No to 'nerfing', Yes to making it just little bit more rare.

Dont read it as making it super rare, I feel that spawning of Tier 1 weapons should be 50% shotguns, 30-35% Lee, 15-20%CZ

I'm pretty sure the Enfield is a one shot kill, even though I don't want it nerfed.

[Rabbican 1]

The Einfield will kill a solo player 100% of the time with one shot, because the first shot will take half your blood (5-7k) then incapacitate you as you bleed profusely for the rest of your life... the only way to survive the Einfield is have someone else bandage you while your passed out. It is a good thing the ammo is common for that gun, its a death sentence if you fire it from building where zombies will rush both entrances.

[-=seany=- 65]

DayZ doesn't exist in a fantasy land. We're not "buffing" and "nerfing" weapons. They are what they are.

The Lee Enfield fires larger bullets with almost twice as much ballistic energy as the M4.

So, no, it is not "bullshit" that it does more damage.

The M4 has plenty of other benefits, not least of which being the ability to fire 900 rounds per minute.

Exactly, please none of this "X gun kills in one shot so should be nerfed" bs...its based on a Military simulator, all the weapon powers have already been worked out and need no tweeking. Maybe it could be made more rare.

Edited July 13, 2012 by SeanOfTheDead

[sandbagger 1]

I say replace it with the Mosin-Nagant in light of the game's Eastern Bloc setting.

Edited July 14, 2012 by sandbagger

[SHOWTIME! 21]

I think it's alright where it's at.

First of all, it shoots a really heavy hitting round IRL wihch has been translated into the game as it should have been.

Secondly, it's loud as hell, which is why it is commonly referred to as the "Dinner Bell".

Thirdly, since you seem to hate it's PVP power, why not just use it yourself if it is so obviously overpowered.

The game isn't just about killing other players, it also involves things like resource gathering and killing zombies without drawing a horde of them on you.

[zipper 69]

Never thought the day would come when people would want the enfield nerfed. Everyone I meet can't wait to get rid of the stupid thing.

[gibonez 3633]

Why not replace it completely.

Add the mosin nagant. 5 round clips instead of the 10 round stripper clips.

Adjust the sight in view so its not that effective at ultra long range. Increase the recoil so you need to adjust at the end of each shot.

[hishnik 23]

I'm pretty sure the Enfield is a one shot kill, even though I don't want it nerfed.

The Einfield will kill a solo player 100% of the time with one shot, because the first shot will take half your blood (5-7k) then incapacitate you as you bleed profusely for the rest of your life... the only way to survive the Einfield is have someone else bandage you while your passed out. It is a good thing the ammo is common for that gun, its a death sentence if you fire it from building where zombies will rush both entrances.

^^^ I never said its not going to kill solo, just that it's not one shot kill for body shot. Yes, solo player will bleed out from it.

It's only one shot kill if headshot

Why not replace it completely.

Add the mosin nagant. 5 round clips instead of the 10 round stripper clips.

Adjust the sight in view so its not that effective at ultra long range. Increase the recoil so you need to adjust at the end of each shot.

Wait a second I'm all for having mosin, but I'd still keep lee. All in all, mosin also has stripper clips (as a proud owner of both M44 and 91/30 I can assure you of that fact)

Keep Lee as is I say.

[YourStepDad 6]

It's a world war II weapon, therefore anachronistic and should be much, MUCH rarer.

That's the only problem I have with it.

The fact firing it near zombies is pretty much a death sentence is...I just love it. It's firing rate is also painfully low, but it's accuracy and damage are neat. It is a good choice for hunting players while camping on rooftops or simply away from zombies.

It is pretty useless for anything else.

In short, it's effect is fine as it is.

[DesertRose 8]

Enfield does not need buffing/nerfing, but perhaps a spawn rate reduction....