Sickness balance?

[General Zod 1118]

That's great, you can't sterilise them so they are useless until you can find chlorine tablets or you can empty them and still have to find a well. 

Edited December 23, 2021 by General Zod

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

7 hours ago, General Zod said:

That's great, you can't sterilise them so they are useless until you can find chlorine tablets or you can empty them and still have to find a well. 

That's how it's been for a long time. But water pumps are easy to find so it isn't really an issue is it? 

[DefectiveWater 535]

11 hours ago, General Zod said:

That's great, you can't sterilise them so they are useless until you can find chlorine tablets or you can empty them and still have to find a well. 

Sterilize with what? Alcohol tincture? Disinfectant spray?
You will sterilize your water inside of a water bottle with undrinkable fluid? That's not really how it works.

Chlorine tabs, boiling or filling with fresh clean water are the only ways to have clean water.

Every water bottle has contaminates inside of it's contents, not on the plastic bottle. Although some people keep saying there is contaminates on the bottle itself, but I've yet to experience it.
Would be nice if somebody could provide some evidence for that or do some testing on video. Wouldn't be surprised if bottles get bugged sometimes for some people, so they don't drain out completely.

Cholera causes puking, water inside of water bottles have a 50/50 chance of having cholera, it's not salmonella.
Plus as I said, be careful about drinking with bloody hands, that still gives you sickness even though you aren't physically touching the contents of it. I reported that issue to the feedback tracker.

Edited December 23, 2021 by DefectiveWater

[nemorus 257]

Will use wikia as an example since it's poorly updated - some of its contents are quite old:

dayz.fandom.com/wiki/Cholera

"(...)Prevention

(...)

Sanitizing Plastic Bottles and Canteens with Disinfectant Spray or Alcoholic Tincture before consuming. Remember that infected players sharing after consuming from these containers can spread infection!(...)"

I don't even know what is there to say really. Sanitizing tools & containers is a NORMAL thing to do - especially when experiencing wild world of dayz. And people are "take drugs - you will feel better". Yeah, eat those antibiotics/charcoal like candies... For it's precisely what's going on in some cases.

[DefectiveWater 535]

24 minutes ago, nemorus said:

*snip*

Oh, so ya'll are talking about when water bottle is being passed around between players.
In that case I have no idea, one would expect with removal of sterilizing the water bottles they would also remove the potential sickness, but... maybe they didn't remove it.

I can't test it myself cause I've got no second player.

But test should go as follows:
- player A is sick with cholera, player B is not sick with anything
- player A drinks half of the contents from a CLEAN water bottle
- player B puts chlorine tabs into the water bottle, and drinks it

If: player B gets sick, then water bottles (plastic) truly can be infected and not only the contents of it.
If: player B doesn't get sick, then only the contents of the bottle can get infected...

24 minutes ago, nemorus said:

Will use wikia as an example since it's poorly updated - some of its contents are quite old:

Shame that for a game with so many different mechanics wikia isn't updated more regularly with correct info.
Some people used to also say that having a mask on while sick makes the mask infected, but I never experienced that.

Maybe it is possible, maybe it isn't. I'm just speaking from my own experience, as I'm sure you guys are too. Somebody should test all of this out and then we are done with the discussion.

Edited December 23, 2021 by DefectiveWater

[Tonyeh 454]

On 12/23/2021 at 12:05 PM, DefectiveWater said:

Shame that for a game with so many different mechanics wikia isn't updated more regularly with correct info.

On 12/22/2021 at 4:29 PM, DefectiveWater said:

 

I think that there are just too many regular changes to the game that updating the wiki results in a never ending full time job done for free.

[nemorus 257]

Doesn't really matter how many updates and changes there are - and frankly it wasn't that big of a change altogether. So many titles have their own wikias, all maintained by fans. It would rather mean that "DayZ" is not going in the right direction since people are abandoning it.

[Tonyeh 454]

Don't be fucking ridiculous. There's more people playing the game in the last year or so than I can remember in the last three years.

The Esseker and Namalsk servers that I play on are stuffed every night of the week. Spaggies, ZERO and DayONE servers all have queues for people waiting to get in.

I wish more people would abandon the game. Then I wouldn't have to wait to get onto the maps I like.

[DefectiveWater 535]

4 hours ago, nemorus said:

It would rather mean that "DayZ" is not going in the right direction since people are abandoning it.

https://steamcharts.com/app/221100#All

wha...? DayZ is anything but dying.

[nemorus 257]

Not all of them are sticking with it - wikia is a prime example and that was my point. I'm not saying that this game is dying - it's withering though.

[Tonyeh 454]

19 minutes ago, nemorus said:

Not all of them are sticking with it - wikia is a prime example and that was my point. I'm not saying that this game is dying - it's withering though.

The wiki is not getting updated because it's a pain in the arse that's all. Besides most people will just see what WOBO has to say about the new tweaks.

And the wiki was never accurate. Even in 2016.

[nemorus 257]

Personally i didn't even know what WOBO was until you mentioned it :). Wiki is wiki i'd say.

Edited December 26, 2021 by nemorus

[General Zod 1118]

6 hours ago, DefectiveWater said:

https://steamcharts.com/app/221100#All

wha...? DayZ is anything but dying.

According that graph, the game has less than 500 active players more than it did when it was released as alpha. Which means either not many copies sold since then or a lot of people left and never came back. 

Edited December 26, 2021 by General Zod

[nemorus 257]

Probably the latter - i mean the hype for dayz is long gone. The only thing that keeps the game on top is the lack of real competition.

[DefectiveWater 535]

13 hours ago, General Zod said:

Which means either not many copies sold since then or a lot of people left and never came back. 

Quite probably that's exactly what happened when the development went to... s*** and when everyone realized that first Standalone was actually in a bad state of things.

I'm 100% sure that there is around 50/50 old/new players right now, and not everyone plays at the same time, so game could have more than 100k unique players easily.

Edited December 27, 2021 by DefectiveWater

[General Zod 1118]

I had a quite a big group of people I played with in the alpha days, only 3 of us still play, myself included. 

Edited December 27, 2021 by General Zod

[Tonyeh 454]

In fairness, that's the best part of a decade you're talking about. I'm hardly surprised that some people are coming and going on one game.

[green_mtn_grandbob 594]

I only come to the forum to see if they keep there word about the game, so far they have not.

[Tristan Cooper 12]

“Immune system indicator score” or Isis 🤣

[EzyStriderPS4 191]

On 12/19/2021 at 1:22 PM, DefectiveWater said:

Right now I'm just bored cause I'm geared again (Plate carrier, Tundra, AK74, spare mags, spare ammo, plenty of food...).

I'm wondering when will end game become more than just PVP and kinda debating whether or not to just drop all my loot, fire some bait shoots and then F11 in the middle of the road so somebody could loot it.

1. Find two car or truck batteries.
2. Find two to four 9V batteries.
3. Acquire handheld radio.
4. Acquire backpack.
5. Acquire radio transmitter.
6. Put battery in transmitter, turn on transmitter and place into backpack.
7. Drop backpack at PA system.
8. Power PA system with other battery.
9. Have some fun with the handheld transmitter and maybe that tundra...

[WOLVERlNES 135]

I can’t get rid of sickness. I’ve been sick the entire time.

Consumed 3 consecutive Tetracycline pills after pill icon was gone each time whilst dry and all stats white.

Consumed Charcoal Tabs + Multi Vitamins + Codene + being dry and all white stats.

Stayed near fireplaces.

 

It’s insane. I puke. I cough & sneeze. Can’t get well.

[DefectiveWater 535]

3 hours ago, RussianReavers said:

I can’t get rid of sickness. I’ve been sick the entire time.

Consumed 3 consecutive Tetracycline pills after pill icon was gone each time whilst dry and all stats white.

Consumed Charcoal Tabs + Multi Vitamins + Codene + being dry and all white stats.

Stayed near fireplaces.

 

It’s insane. I puke. I cough & sneeze. Can’t get well.

As far as I know, you can only combine 1 type of meds + multi vitamins. So using Charcoal + MV + Codeine MIGHT have ended up cancelling your charcoal.

I think you might be having few illnesses stacked.

I assume you have both of these:
1) influenza - only sickness with coughing besides toxic poisoning - tetra and vitamins, 3 might not be enough
2) cold - sneezing - tetra and vitamins

And one of these:
3a) cholera - vomiting AFTER eating - tetra + vitamins, 3 might not be enough - don't drink non-purified/sterilized water 
3b) salmonella - vomiting AFTER eating - charcoal tabs + vitamins - don't eat raw food, don't eat/drinking with bloody hands
3c) chemical poisoning - constant vomiting - charcoal + vitamins - don't eat rotten/burned food, don't drink gasoline or disinfectants

Edited January 27, 2022 by DefectiveWater

[WOLVERlNES 135]

Thanks for advice. I vomit after drinking, sometimes after eating — and try to not take more than 3 bites/gulps at once. I’ve also noticed it helps to wait for triple up arrows go away to prevent vomiting.

My transgressions involved one raw fish and two pieces burnt chicken days apart from each other.

Plus being out in the rain for long periods.

My medical treatments thus far (outside of staying warm & dry, being well-fed & hydrated):

• Charcoal Tablets alone
• Tetracycline alone
• Codeine alone (codeine description in-game says it helps with coughing)
• Multivitamins alone
• Codeine with Multivitamins
• Charcoal Tablets with Codeine
• Tetracycline alone

This was all done prior to your response over the course of about 5 days irl gaming sessions.

I’ve not had the luxury of having both vitamins & tetracycline nor charcoal tablets & vitamins at the same time.

 

I’ve found a few more Tetracycline and going to wait until I find vitamins/charcoal again to ingest them.

Edited January 27, 2022 by RussianReavers

[General Zod 1118]

I found that if you have cold / flu you also end up vomiting when you eat a lot in one go. Realistically if you ate 3 tetra in a row, followed with codeine and vitamins you should be fine by now, which suggests you're sickness might be bugged, if all else fails hide your gear in a safe spot, kill yourself and go find it. 

[Officer Failure 33]

I once had influenza and salmonella at the same time and it took me about 8 hours to get rid of it. I couldn't find any meds so i tried it with eating but it took three attempts - you gotta need a lot of food AND water. And because of salmonella it's very hard with the small bites and waiting for the arrows to go down (as already stated) to eat again but with having already salmonella, you can drink river water - you can't get salmonella twice. I remember drinking at least 15 cooking pots of water and you need about one cow or equivalent when you eat it nonstop. And even when you're full it still takes a bit of time. Influenza heals earlier you notice when the coughing stops.

But this is why i like the 1.15 changes - before it was too easy to get healthy again without meds by eating, now it's possible but you need a LOT (but too much water imo).

And you can't stay full white with water and food for long so you're not always immune to anything. Before 1.15 i kept full all the time, now i usually stay between yellow and white.