Sickness balance?

[Ace244 11]

Can we get a rebalance of the sicknesses? It’s annoyingly unrealistic how easy you get sick I’m this game. It’s like I have to keep pills in 24/7. 

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

What are you doing to keep getting sick? 

[Ermanhaut 16]

Do you know how the system works? If you do, it's easy not to get sick or to recover. Take a look at this 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Ermanhaut

[Xeonmeister 22]

The overall system is pretty good and shouldnt be rebalanced - except for two:

1 - wound infection
You get it immediately after bandaging with something not disinfected and i think its ridiculus how quickly you can die from it. All other aspects of it are ok but there should be a timer like 30min or 1 hour before you get the infection.

2 - cold
Again, ridiculus how you can get a cold EVEN IF YOUR TEMPS ARE GOOD if u have red blood and/or health (im not sure which one s causing it). It s fine that you have a weaker immune system with very low health/blood but you shouldnt catch a cold unless you re literally cold.

[lemmac 101]

A cold is a virus, not a symptom of low temperature. Should only be catching cold from other infected players.

[General Zod 1118]

I think the bigger problem with sickness is the availability of medicine, it is a lot easier to find a gun inside civilian houses to commit suicide rather than slowly dying from what ever you caught  than some pain killers or tablets for a food poisoning. 

Edited December 21, 2021 by General Zod

[Tonyeh 454]

I almost never get sick in the game. I don't understand how some players can't avoid it.

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

1 hour ago, Tonyeh said:

I almost never get sick in the game. I don't understand how some players can't avoid it.

Same here. Occasionally if I get an unlucky new start at night in the rain I might catch a cold until I get fed warm and dry. Other than that I've managed to avoid most maladies

[DefectiveWater 539]

2 hours ago, Tonyeh said:

I almost never get sick in the game. I don't understand how some players can't avoid it.

They probably have wet clothes, are cold and have food/water in the yellow or half full.
I think it's something that experienced players can avoid more easily due to map knowledge and knowledge of mechanics (eating quick = throw up, cold = bad...)
And if you've got nobody to show you it might be hard to learn a thing or two, cause nothing is explained in this game.

I myself got sick more often (twice, I think) in the last patch or two, and honestly I'm loving the change.
I finally need to worry about wet clothes and coldness.

Right now I'm just bored cause I'm geared again (Plate carrier, Tundra, AK74, spare mags, spare ammo, plenty of food...).
I'm wondering when will end game become more than just PVP and kinda debating whether or not to just drop all my loot, fire some bait shoots and then F11 in the middle of the road so somebody could loot it.

Edited December 19, 2021 by DefectiveWater

[Tonyeh 454]

@DayzDayzFanboy

Yeah, I might get the odd cold if I'm unlucky at the start of the game. But that's hardly the end of the world. I got salmonella and Cholera both once and made sure that was never happening again cos they were a pain in the arse. I've yet to get a wound infection.

@DefectiveWater

I think far too many players try to play the game at top speed and as if it's just a combat zone. Twitchy feckers that can't wait to be be fully geared and go off to kill another player. So, often they end up screwing their own toon because they have no patience to build it up properly.

Depending on what map I am on, I'll generally play it slow and stealthy and I'm careful with what I do. I usually get out of the rain, especially a heavy downfall so being wet is never an issue for me. I won't engage players until I can do so properly and even then I'll tend to avoid them because death is so easy. I won't bandage a wound with dirty rags and I won't eat with dirty hands. I also don't drink potentially contaminated water. All of which means that most of my toons live pretty long lives.

That's not the case on the likes of Esseker though. But that map is just a deathmatch because it's so small and there's no point in playing any other way.

But yeah, as much as I love the game, it really is the most pointless exercise because once you've achieved a certain, state there's nowhere to go. In the past, I've "opted out" as well cos I was as geared as I'll ever be and there was just nothing else to do. And I've tried to shake things up a bit by restricting myself with certain toons. For instance, one toon I only allowed carry a Winchester rifle and I dressed him only in civvie gear. I wandered the wilderness hunting and fishing, but I only took one piece of meat from every animal I killed and I didn't take any canned food to eat. It meant that I had to constantly hunt for food and live in the wild. I didn't drink from wells, so I had to make sure that any water I drank from lakes and ponds had to be purified first. Plus I didn't allow him to repair items or fix his rifle with a cleaning kit. Once something was kaput, that was it. He'd need another.

The problem was, even with all of those self placed restrictions, I still didn't have that much trouble surviving. There were more than enough rifles around and .308 is stupidly abundant. As are clothes and animals to kill and eat, so I was never actually that hungry or exposed to long to the elements. I had a tent in the middle of nowhere that was a base, but I would store anything in it except bottle suppressors, of which there were loads.

Whoever found the tent must have though there was a madman living there. 😆

Recently, I've found myself more and more on Esseker. It's a very simple play loop there. One of get a gun and go and kill players until you're killed yourself. There's a very quick refresh rate on the loot, so starting over isn't a big deal when you inevitably meet your end. I guess I'm just a little bored with Chernarus these days. And while Banov, Deer Isle and Namalsk are great maps, once you get to know them, the fun of exploring is gone. Also, with the assets being the same on each new map, it can feel a little stale at times unfortunately.

Takistan was a little bit of a welcome shake up as far as environment is concerned, but that seems to have been a bit of a flash in the pan as few players are on that map now. Spaggies Takistan has 1 player on it at the moment! And ZERO have nuked their Takistan map for some reason (probably low traffic).

[Ace244 11]

😂 I can assure you I can handle the sickness and have played the game since the Arma 2 mod. However I really don’t like how EASY it is to get sick. It’s not even this easy IRL it’s fucking ridiculous. 

[nemorus 261]

It seems that way - but there is a big difference. It's the time. Typical player spends at best a few hours in-game during the week and so the program tries to put all of its features in that small window. To make experience richer. Like a kid who tries to cook for the first time and put in all of the ingredients & seasonings right away. It's quite unedible for anyone with working taste but it is what it is. Also, time in the game is usually accelerated quite a bit. And since it's making circles faster, features are also faster to experience. Other than obvious mistakes from the top - like contracting salmonella from seemingly nowhere (containers chlorinating was disabled by the studio...) - the key lies in a server settings.

Edited December 21, 2021 by nemorus

[General Zod 1118]

That's a dickish move, make fresh water containers have a chance of being contaminated and removing the option to sterilise them. And good luck finding medicine outside of hospitals. 

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

6 hours ago, nemorus said:

containers chlorinating was disabled

Huh? When? It was working the other night

[nemorus 261]

i mean cleaning empty containers with alcohol/spray/whatnot That was disabled.

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

4 hours ago, nemorus said:

i mean cleaning empty containers with alcohol/spray/whatnot That was disabled.

Why would you need to? You can't catch anything from empty containers. 

[nemorus 261]

There is a possibility to catch salmonella other than by "(...)eating uncooked meat, uncooked fat, earthworms, any rotten food item or by drinking or eating with bloody hands.(...)" in the game. Contracting disease from seemingly nowhere - which i've also experienced. Water containers are my best bet since replacing them in my case worked like a charm. There was an option in the past to sanitize containers/tools. It was disabled for some reason and i don't know why. The most basic thing about preventing salmonellosis: hygiene. And they turned that off!

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

6 hours ago, nemorus said:

There is a possibility to catch salmonella other than by "(...)eating uncooked meat, uncooked fat, earthworms, any rotten food item or by drinking or eating with bloody hands.(...)" in the game. Contracting disease from seemingly nowhere - which i've also experienced. Water containers are my best bet since replacing them in my case worked like a charm. There was an option in the past to sanitize containers/tools. It was disabled for some reason and i don't know why. The most basic thing about preventing salmonellosis: hygiene. And they turned that off!

If you completely empty a water container you cannot catch salmonella from it. 

[nemorus 261]

Give me a proof to your statement. For now all i know is what i've seen. Containers were emptied, trust me - i've checked everything before i posted here.

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

2 hours ago, nemorus said:

Give me a proof to your statement. For now all i know is what i've seen. Containers were emptied, trust me - i've checked everything before i posted here.

All I know is what I've experienced. I've never caught salmonella from a container only ever caught it once I can recall. I had bloody hands and took a bite of food. Realised instantly but one bite was enough. Played since game released. Are you sure you're getting salmonella? Maybe you ate the unknown food can? Or maybe a different illness such as wound infection? Or a cold? 

[Tonyeh 454]

If you empty the container completely, the contaminated material is gone. Simply fill her up at a well and you grand. The illness causing matter is the liquid in the container, which will give you cholera. Not the container itself.

Salmonella you only catch from eating bad food or eating food with bloody hands.

[DefectiveWater 539]

5 hours ago, Tonyeh said:

Salmonella you only catch from eating bad food or eating food with bloody hands.

Since we are talking about it, does drinking from a can/bottle with bloody hands give you salmonella?
If so, that's dumb.

Update: Yes you do... I just tested it (soda can so far), my guy has sick icon and is moaning in pain. Need to test water bottle once I'm cured.
Update 2: Got cured, waiting for the pill icon to go away to test the water bottle.
Update 3: So with that..

BOTH water bottles and soda cans give you salmonella if you drink with bloody hands. That's dumb.

Edited December 22, 2021 by DefectiveWater

[nemorus 261]

It stands. I've done my homework. Tested it multiple times and it was salmonella without a doubt. Hands were clean, no blood was involved, with or without pristine gloves of different fashions. No food was involved as well. It was just a salmonella that either jumped from other player without any direct interaction or through containers/tools. I've asked people who experienced that scenario as well. They did not make casual mistakes and they have recored the whole thing. Either there's a bug involved or something is missing.

[General Zod 1118]

I'm pretty sure I got salmonella from a canteen I found few days ago, didn't drink from any water sources beforehand just cans that I found, skinned no animals and punched no zombies so clean hands. Drank the contents of the half full canteen and started to vomit within minutes. 

[DayzDayzFanboy 1280]

2 hours ago, General Zod said:

I'm pretty sure I got salmonella from a canteen I found few days ago, didn't drink from any water sources beforehand just cans that I found, skinned no animals and punched no zombies so clean hands. Drank the contents of the half full canteen and started to vomit within minutes. 

Well, yeah, drinking the water you found in a canteen will make you ill for sure.