I hope the official to make the short tube HK416 and holographic sight!

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This is a long game, many players like to play the official server! It is well known that MOD is sometimes just a change of shell, the model data is not good, can only be used as a flavoring agent! I strongly hope that the official addition of the short tube HK416 is very cool, HK416 originally had a short tube in the room CQB! There are also holographic sights. In the case of such a real game, the holographic sights have complete advantages such as precision at a certain distance and red dot reflection. In the current 2019, the two mentioned by me are not a problem, I hope the developers Join in, the perfect survival should match a variety of weapons and accessories, you can also join the grip accessories! !

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The NATO weapons don't really fit the lore. There should be a few but not hunderds of them. Eastern weapons like AK variants, Bizon, Vityaz, old Soviet weapons, etc. should make more sense.

[MaVerick_GDZ 148]

If Arma2 is part of the lore, which we don't really know because there is no lore except for "The post-soviet country of Chernarus is struck by an unknown virus", then they would fit pretty well. At least a few more, like the promised M249 SAW i've been waiting for years to get my hands on again. Maybe a 1:3 ratio?

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2 hours ago, MaVerick_GDZ said:

If Arma2 is part of the lore, which we don't really know because there is no lore except for "The post-soviet country of Chernarus is struck by an unknown virus", then they would fit pretty well. At least a few more, like the promised M249 SAW i've been waiting for years to get my hands on again. Maybe a 1:3 ratio?

They wouldn't fit honestly and I don't know why Arma 2 (at least the EP's) had so many different NATO guns. A place where NATO would intervene wouldn't have 1000 different type of NATO guns. They would have the M4A1 which is the standard issue and a few guns for specialized roles like the M249, a sniper-rifle kind of gun, etc. But there wouldn't be much of these specific guns around but rather the M4A1.

Edited September 1, 2019 by IMT

[MaVerick_GDZ 148]

I gotta admit that my military knowledge is pretty basic due to being a "war objector" (google translation, Kriegsdienstverweigerer) and a tend to agree with you about the limited numbers of different weapons, but wouldn't any NATO country bring their own hardware to the conflict? Afaik our boys and girls down in Kosovo or A-Stan are wielding the G36 and other standard Bundeswehr hardware. Therefore if we take Arma2 lore into account and the hasty retreat NATO was forced to, it is quite possible for many different type of guns laying around, waiting for our dirty survivor hands to grab them.

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55 minutes ago, MaVerick_GDZ said:

I gotta admit that my military knowledge is pretty basic due to being a "war objector" (google translation, Kriegsdienstverweigerer) and a tend to agree with you about the limited numbers of different weapons, but wouldn't any NATO country bring their own hardware to the conflict? Afaik our boys and girls down in Kosovo or A-Stan are wielding the G36 and other standard Bundeswehr hardware. Therefore if we take Arma2 lore into account and the hasty retreat NATO was forced to, it is quite possible for many different type of guns laying around, waiting for our dirty survivor hands to grab them.

Here is the thing. There won't be hunderds of FAL, M249, MP5, etc. laying around because the majority of NATO guns will be the M4, since that is the standard issue. If one joins the army, they're not going to ask you "which weapon do you want?". Most of the army consists of people having the M4A1 and some specialists would have guns like the M249, FAL, etc. So there might be a M110 left behind in Cherarnus but not 100 of them. That's what I'm getting at. The majority of the NATO guns will be the standard issues like the M4A1, the NATO standard pistol, etc.

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Ah i see, thanks for the clarification. You earned your beans, sir.

[Deranged Pineapple 8]

15 hours ago, IMT said:

Here is the thing. There won't be hunderds of FAL, M249, MP5, etc. laying around because the majority of NATO guns will be the M4, since that is the standard issue. If one joins the army, they're not going to ask you "which weapon do you want?". Most of the army consists of people having the M4A1 and some specialists would have guns like the M249, FAL, etc. So there might be a M110 left behind in Cherarnus but not 100 of them. That's what I'm getting at. The majority of the NATO guns will be the standard issues like the M4A1, the NATO standard pistol, etc.

It really depends which countries were part of said NATO operation. If you assume the forces were primarily U.S forces then we can assume that M4 and M16? variants were used mostly. If turkish or germany forces were there then small arms would be from different selection. NATO does have standard round though but if I understand correctly they doesn't have standard weapons for the countries that are part of NATO. 

So therefore it really depends which countries were part of this conflict etc. but of course we can safely assume main forces were U.S forces.

Edited September 2, 2019 by Deranged Pineapple
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2 hours ago, Deranged Pineapple said:

It really depends which countries were part of said NATO operation. If you assume the forces were primarily U.S forces then we can assume that M4 and M16? variants were used mostly. If turkish or germany forces were there then small arms would be from different selection. NATO does have standard round though but if I understand correctly they doesn't have standard weapons for the countries that are part of NATO. 

So therefore it really depends which countries were part of this conflict etc. but of course we can safely assume main forces were U.S forces.

That is very true. I don't know a great deal about the Arma 2 lore but I know there was NATO intervention during the Chernarus civil war. Given all the guns which the U.S. uses, I'm assuming it was primarly U.S. forces. Although one EP is about the British (British Armed Forces) so some British weapons would make sense as well (hence the Lee Enfield in the mod). It might also be the case where the U.S. intervened under NATO and had expeditionary forces from other NATO countries.

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2 hours ago, IMT said:

one EP is about the British (British Armed Forces) so some British weapons would make sense as well (hence the Lee Enfield in the mod). It might also be the case where the U.S. intervened under NATO and had expeditionary forces from other NATO countries.

http://www.snipercentral.com/u-k-l42a1-sniper-rifle/

The No.4 Lee–Enfield was officially taken out of Brit Forces service  in 1957 but  remained in widespread British and "ex-Empire" & Commonwealth service until the mid-1960s. those OLD WWII classic Lee-Enfields are all over the place, all in .303 . More than 17 million were manufactured ?? I guess they could show up anywhere from India to Canada & Iran but not with NATO troops ??
- then 1000+ were modded and reintroduced as the L42A1 Lee–Enfield (link) :  British Army, Royal Marines and RAF Regiment sniper rifle chambered for the 7.62mm NATO cartridge. It entered service in 1970 & was replaced in 1985. The L42A1 was the last model in the line of Lee bolt-action rifles. Very few of them around.
Apart from the shape of the weapon & caliber, the  rifling is right-hand in this 7.62x51 model (ultimate giveaway), in all the previous Lee Enfields rifling is left-hand. - heh - look down the barrel.

I guess the bottom line is there are so many varieties of rifles to please the gun fans.. kind of "any excuse" ?

e.g. : There were 63 UN peacekeeping operations during 1948-2009, others since then, 16 now ongoing - suppose a unit of UN peacekeepers turned up (at date XX) from say Pakistan ??.  They COULD be armed with .303 "old standard" No. 4 Lee-Enfields. This might even be historically LIKELY .. or it MAY have happened in some part of the real world ?  

Edited September 2, 2019 by pilgrim*
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