Random Character Death

[Uncivilizedgaming 15]

Hey I seen some old posts of this happening. 

I have been playing on a friendly only server and I have had three random deaths today.

 

My friends find my body and my shoes and pants are ruined. 

 

I am uninstalling steam now to see if it fixes the issue but I was wondering if anyone has been dealing with this on .59.

 

Thanks!

[pilgrim* 3514]

If your shoes and pants are ruined it is normally an indication you fell off something - so where were you exactly when those events happened? In buildings, on rocks, jumping, going up or downstairs, ladders, or maybe close to the edge of a roof or a drop?  While you were playing did you notice any lag ?

 

I don't see that reinstalling Steam will make any difference

 

xx

[Uncivilizedgaming 15]

If your shoes and pants are ruined it is normally an indication you fell off something - so where were you exactly when those events happened? In buildings, on rocks, jumping, going up or downstairs, ladders, or maybe close to the edge of a roof or a drop?  While you were playing did you notice any lag ?

 

I don't see that reinstalling Steam will make any difference

 

xx

Thanks for the reply. First time I was leaving a building (died in doorway) on ground floor. Second time I was messing around running up and down on a stack of lumber. Third time I got out of a V3S (Off and stopped)

I don't think it is an issue with me jumping to my death but I do know its only happening on my computer. Other computers in the house seem to run it fine. 

I am installing the game now. Will let you know if it keeps it up or not. 

Edited December 22, 2015 by Uncivilizedgaming

[Uncivilizedgaming 15]

Also something to note. I was on my steam account when I died the first two times, the third time I was on my wife's account. 

[Uncivilizedgaming 15]

Well, Just stepped out of a parked sedan and died again. Don't know what to say. Get obs running and send it in I guess. 

[Uncivilizedgaming 15]

Ok it said I was dead. But i exited the server instead of respawning and when I logged in I had my gear? Werid. 

[pilgrim* 3514]

Well  a couple of things come to mind:

 

1 ) - vehicles are iffy and dangerous ATM - ask around or check youtube - you MIGHT die if you get in or out of one while it is moving even slightly (sliding) even with the engine turned off. And I heard that just opening the passenger door while someone else was driving could kill you. I dont know much about vehicles, but I've heard great horror stories, there are several on this forum. 

 

2 ) There are also individual server-hive problems turning up sometimes - So if you log in geared up and find yourself in your underwear on a beach - DO NOT Log Out in the normal way - don't move at all - Right away either pull out the ethernet connection or open Task Manager and turn off DayZ. Then when you restart DayZ and log in somewhere else (a known server you trust) you stand a good chance of having your gear. But if you play or DO anything as a freshspawn, including doing the official Log Out - you might probably end up registered in the hive as a real freshspawn. This has happened to me a good few times on "normal public servers" but I've always got my gear back by doing as I suggest.

 

OK - that's two things worth knowing IMO.

 

But the main thing is this - "the server is authoritative" - that means the SERVER decides where you are, ALWAYS, and then tells you about it. So if you are running across a field.. you send your keypress actions to the server, and the server calculates what effect that has, and THEN the server sends back your position and finally you see it on the screen. So if for some reason there is any noticeable delay between the server sending your "real" position and you seeing it - for instance due to variable lag on your connection? or Windows decides to download files in the middle of the game? or ANY other reason, then what you see is just a little AFTER the serve decides what happens. Remember the server is ALWAYS right..What you see on the screen should be real close (milliseconds) but it comes Second in importance - that is the Law. The server IS Judge Dredd. There is some real clever stuff to reduce the effect even further, so it hardly ever causes any problem, but it's a fact of life when you playing on internet servers, it is an online game problem for every game, not a DayZ problem.

 

Normally it is completely not noticable - but this desync (lag) can have bad effects when it gets appreciable (this is rare now in DayZ; a LOT better than it was IMO). So - You run across to the edge of the roof, when you see you are at the edge you stop, but with bad lag, the server already knows that you ran off the edge.and you fell - but because of the desync you won't even see yourself falling - on your screen you'll still be moving closer to the edge and suddenly "you are dead".

 

The most obvious example of "server authority" is when a server turns off and you get the message in red "no communication for 10 seconds" etc.. You can still run around and do things, but the server knows nothing is happening. You can run a long way in 30 seconds, but when you log back in you'll be exactly where you were when the server shut down the first second.The server always decides.

 

Here's a little explanation of lag in games: might help you more than my attempt:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag

 

OK - So what to do ?

 

There is much advice around the forum on ways to reduce lag if it is caused at your end - the pc and your connection . If the server is laggy, best find another.  But if your friends play with you on the same server with no problem, then definitely check your PC..

For instance some antivirus can REALLY slow down your game (in sudden fits and starts, too - I turn mine off, then virus check later) , but that's only one example - there is forum advice here from better informed players than me. For instance everyone agrees an SSD can really smooth out the game even if your PC is a little underpowered.  And defrag your HD, that can't hurt. And stop all automatic update programs if you can (there are quite a few) - like Adobe deciding to get on line right now to see if you need a better PDF in the middle of a gunfight. Don't use a WIFI connection, use Ethernet. Don't run other stuff while you're playing..(nope, not even Skype or Facebook or Bittorrent - live without them) Keep your internet connection as clear as you can. Make sure no one else is on the home network, check if the kid brother is streaming Game of Thrones behind your back?

 

And then you can adjust the game video settings too, to get the best out of your card. And DayZ is heavy on CPU where a lot of games move that load out to the GPU. 

 

Post the full specs of your machine, please - this will help a lot - also read the tech forum thread here, you may find a ready made solution

 

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THEN, with the specifications - someone intelligent - i.e. Kichilron ( he has the highest IQ in recorded history ) will give you best advice.

 

It's an established scientific fact that KICHILRON has 83.7% of the whole combined intelligence of the entire player base. In his spare time he is Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin (he easily does both at once, even on camera). His real name is John von Neumann.

 

                                                         

 

                                                          Here is KICHILRON giving advice on lag to two heads of state

                                                          Notice he has already drunk both his glasses of gin

 

 

xx

Edited December 22, 2015 by pilgrim

[kichilron 8550]

THEN, with the specifications - someone intelligent - i.e. Kichilron ( he has the highest IQ in recorded history ) will give you best advice.

 

It's an established scientific fact that KICHILRON has 83.7% of the whole combined intelligence of the entire player base. In his spare time he is Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin (he easily does both at once, even on camera). His real name is John von Neumann.

 

Three things that immediately spring to mind:

 

1. I always hated that tie, but my wife bought it.
2. It wasn't my idea to pay Ruby, always told Silvio it's a bad idea.
3. Your full specs would be helpful, including load on CPU and network when playing.

[Uncivilizedgaming 15]

Hey guys, went away for xmas. Been playing and it has not happened again. So maybe it was just some sort of lag. Thanks for the posts back though. Lot of information I did not know.

[sneakydudes 278]

It was desync.... you dont see it.

 

Ive been following up on another clan mates problems, his internet or the link between him and the game goes out of sync a few times and just randomly hes poped off a building.

Climbing up the ladders, death.... etc..

 

This is still a problem in .59 if you noticed you cant run away from zombies but run in 1 spot, while they run in 1 spot. You both re sync back and away you go, same thing over and over.

 

Its being worked on, i believe we have 2 servers handling the tasks? being worked on..heavy now i believe.