The struggle of ghillie snipers

[q.S Sachiel 470]

Yeah, i'd imagine you establish a bearing and maintain formation / heading, calling out relative directions from centre/command, eg: 2'oclock.  Bearing updates are more in the realm of command/armored or support I'd imagine.  But i can guarantee you that when command sits down to plan an attack, plan a defense or ambush, they allign their map to north and use it in line with a compass+/- divider.

 

Back to ghillies: first and second I had dead right from first glance, they were dead men.  The rest were completely concealed.  I know the point is to be so, but I'm skeptical... not even a barrel can be seen, and the rock pictures are hard to fathom without an idea of depth/elevation... still, if he's set up in a channel that the enemy will come through then it's the right place for it.  Not much cover if you're spotted though.

[pilgrim* 3514]

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Back to ghillies: first and second I had dead right from first glance, they were dead men.  The rest were completely concealed.  I know the point is to be so, but I'm skeptical... not even a barrel can be seen, and the rock pictures are hard to fathom without an idea of depth/elevation... still, if he's set up in a channel that the enemy will come through then it's the right place for it.  Not much cover if you're spotted though.

 

Yep, at 5 to 15 yards a ghillie can hide even in DayZ.  (Here's a DayZ close-distance ghillie photo - very nice wallpaper photo, proves the point that DayZ ghillies *can* be helpful *maybe* at 10 feet in DayZ. Good screenshot!: Perhaps someone has in-game examples taken from 30 or 50 yards?)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2561773/Spot-snipers-artists-amazing-collection-photos-hidden-gunmen-blending-various-landscapes.html

I thought the Real Life photos didn't need any comment, the reason for linking them is is so obvious:

The photographer explains that he's taken photos of in-training German army snipers from a very close distance (which doesn't normally happen, that's the whole point of snipers) and you already know the ghillie is there somewhere in the photo  - that's why he's taken the photo.  As the journalist says "chances are that if you're close enough to notice them, it's already too late". Journalists like to be dramatic -  in fact if you're close enough to notice them, you've already been dead for 15 minutes.

BUT these are sniper ghillies in real life. This is exactly not how it happens in the game - In DayZ if you walked away from these snipers, the further away you are go, the easier to see them. You *might not* see them in the game at 10 or  even 15 yards but go back to 50 yards and they'll be standing out there naked, looking completely stupid. In DayZ literally you can spot them from a mile off.

So check out the RL photos where the snipers are hidden in the middle distance, for instance in fields (at cant-miss zero-range for the sniper). In DayZ they would not be hidden at all - totally the opposite of what ghillies are for, completely the opposite of how they work IRL.

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Is anyone up for a DayZ "spot the ghillie" contest ?

Take a screenshot from middle-distance of a ghillie, for the forum, see if players can spot him?

Or if any players can't spot him?

 

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Edited October 15, 2015 by pilgrim

[KenoSkir88 181]

I have a buddy who just started DayZ, brand new.  He's been using the compass.

 

It's not really useful for veteran players compared to the one in the mod (which ended up more for calling out specific enemy locations), but for strictly navigational purposes it serves the purpose.

I'm not sure how things go in the actual military, but I do kinda doubt people are constantly pulling out their compass to say the enemy is at X degrees specifically irl.

 

You're missing a valuable point. When you have been trained long and hard and have much experience using a compass, you don't need to pull it out and look at it real close to see where a 285 bearing is, you just glance where north is (you should already know where north is due to planning) and that's all you need to know to instantly know what direction any other bearing is. Don't assume that because you don't think in terms of degrees, that nobody does.

[Bororm 1156]

You're missing a valuable point. When you have been trained long and hard and have much experience using a compass, you don't need to pull it out and look at it real close to see where a 285 bearing is, you just glance where north is (you should already know where north is due to planning) and that's all you need to know to instantly know what direction any other bearing is. Don't assume that because you don't think in terms of degrees, that nobody does.

 

That doesn't really change anything though, because you can easily accomplish that with the compass in the SA if you're that attuned to degrees.

[KenoSkir88 181]

That doesn't really change anything though, because you can easily accomplish that with the compass in the SA if you're that attuned to degrees.

 

Umm.. Ok i think i must have misinterpreted your other post. It seemed to me you were suggesting the compass in DayZ:SA should have bigger visible degree markings. Sorry if that was not the case :)