DayZ Maintenance ~ Should be functional again

[vesmo 21]

maybe one of your website programmers could stick up a hive online/offline indicator on the homepage of dayz' date=' as well as how the connection is, shouldn't take too long.

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Will see into that, but not right now :P.

I meant that your sales have increased because of dayz' date=' not literally because dayz is a cost for us.. And I bought Arma 2 and Operation Arrowhead.

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Just to be clear on this: Bohemia isn't paying us.

O_o well they should. This mod is beyond arma 2.

But if they payed the DayZ team then they would start developing the game in a way that would sell more copies I think...I just hope that doesn't happen. I want this to be what it promises to be: a hardcore zombie apocalypse survival simulator. Meaning most of the people who have come to the game at around patch 1.7.1.5 will probably flame and rage on these forums when the game gets too hard for them to enjoy it. I WANT it to be hard, insanely so. And I hope rocket does too and won't be afraid to develop the game to be hard, even if it drives some of the current gamers away.

[underfox 0]

yet I have to admit that there should be a thread where nobody could post except the dev's to leave information about server status etc...

That way I won't have to search for VIpeax comment trough 10 pages of comments just to know what is going on .

[autBob 0]

Hey Guys' date='

I just registered to say thank you for doing what you do in your free time. It's awesome how a few people can produce a game that is way better compared to the base game. I salute you for your patience with some of the users of this forum, demanding things even a mulimillion dollar company cannot provide. You have to imagine these guys actually used their brains thinking, it's down anyways, so let's do maintenance - have you ever seen a big company do that?

I say thanks again for your awesome work, keep it up and please don't get frustrated. You have to know that the silent majority is with your decision and seemingly a lot more haters have the energy to register to your forum.

Thanks to the Dev Team

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There should be a level of professionalism that i have yet to see from the team. Yes the game is great, one of the best games i have played, but that doesn't excuse that fact 90% of the time the people who play their game are left having no idea what is going on because there is never any warning when shit happens. On top of that, when we do find at something has gone wrong, we never find out why or for how long things will be out for.

Great game, need to lift the professionalism

You know i appreciate you talking about professionalism, but this always comes at a cost. You need somebody on Public Relations for that, that is in this case someone missing in the server fixing department. I agree that there is a lack of info, but this is not a company, these are guys sacrificing their free time to get us playing. I'm sure they don't get rich by doing it. So you can simply not hope they will ever has as much manpower as a company, although i understand your concerns. Give it a few months, I'm sure they will get better with this stuff day by day.

[iogc_broadsword 33]

Or start keeping the Twitter up to date, surely Rocket is not the only person with access to it!

[Dendrek 0]

I think what people need to understand is that the creators of the Dayz mod are not some massive game company or even remotely close. to ask professionalism of them during an ALPHA version of a mod is abit much. It's Alpha because its not polished yet. Problems like this happening now will help the Dayz staff learn and fix the problems so when they choose to go BETA or a full release. They can do so.

Secondly I'm hearing mixed sources. are the servers back up, or still finicky? Because I keep getting stuck at character creation.

[Alexnader 0]

Hey' date='

@Vipeax : How many time approximately for this maintenance plz.

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Give or take 3 to 4 hours, but this is not a deadline, if something happens it will go beyond this expected duration!

Is this fucking serious? Jesus christ, give us a bit of warning next time you pull a 'maintenance' during Australian prime time.

Im surprised your government even allows you people to play DayZ, what with all the blood and violence. Do you guys have a version that squirts out butterflies instead of blood?

Firstly this game has very little actual gore unless you think red paint is scary.

Secondly Australia will soon have its R18+ rating, as the law allowing it was passed federally. However ratings are managed on a state level so it still needs to be sorted out there before we actually get the R18+ rating. In the mean time it's important to note the sum total of all games that have been denied a rating or have been edited to meet the MA 15+ rating is about 50. A lot of the ones that didn't make it to our shores weren't very good anyway. (Think Postal).

Thirdly, at least Australia doesn't have any states trying to equate games with pornography *cough California *cough.

Finally (and on topic), the status of the hive needs to be better communicated. I only saw this topic after seeing a link in a thread about the server being attacked.

EDIT*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia

Total number is way less than 50.

[euphoric_energy@hotmail.com 0]

After the hive is restored does this mean the ddos attacks will stop as well?

thanx for any updates <3

[Biggus (DayZ) 4]

I can relate to AussieStig's frustration.

It's pretty simple - lack of communication. I'd been keeping my eyes on the forum from a bit after midday, local time. It's 9.30pm here now, and up until Vipeax's post about maintenance, I'd spent a few hours trying to get on for a bit of Zombie action.

Then I find out that it's not hackers causing the problem, the server's offline for some work. Fine, I understand that maintenance is something that needs to be done. Finding out that it's maintenance after trying to get onto a server for three hours or so, that's frustrating.

A bit of communication goes a long way.

[Mitchrea1993 21]

Hey Guys' date='

I just registered to say thank you for doing what you do in your free time. It's awesome how a few people can produce a game that is way better compared to the base game. I salute you for your patience with some of the users of this forum, demanding things even a mulimillion dollar company cannot provide. You have to imagine these guys actually used their brains thinking, it's down anyways, so let's do maintenance - have you ever seen a big company do that?

I say thanks again for your awesome work, keep it up and please don't get frustrated. You have to know that the silent majority is with your decision and seemingly a lot more haters have the energy to register to your forum.

Thanks to the Dev Team

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There should be a level of professionalism that i have yet to see from the team. Yes the game is great, one of the best games i have played, but that doesn't excuse that fact 90% of the time the people who play their game are left having no idea what is going on because there is never any warning when shit happens. On top of that, when we do find at something has gone wrong, we never find out why or for how long things will be out for.

Great game, need to lift the professionalism

You know i appreciate you talking about professionalism, but this always comes at a cost. You need somebody on Public Relations for that, that is in this case someone missing in the server fixing department. I agree that there is a lack of info, but this is not a company, these are guys sacrificing their free time to get us playing. I'm sure they don't get rich by doing it. So you can simply not hope they will ever has as much manpower as a company, although i understand your concerns. Give it a few months, I'm sure they will get better with this stuff day by day.

Fair points, although to be fair, no they don't get paid to do this, but they are smart enough to know this is in a sense an investment. They aren't getting paid now, but they will be getting a nice when Arma 3 comes around. I'd be quitting my day job if i was the team behind dayz

[Vipeax 318]

I will try to keep it as simple as possible:

This had to be done really soon (within 48 hours), right now just was the best timing due to the other circumstances. We are sorry for the lack of communication, but please try to keep in mind that we have far bigger concerns.

[autBob 0]

I can relate to AussieStig's frustration.

It's pretty simple - lack of communication. I'd been keeping my eyes on the forum from a bit after midday' date=' local time. It's 9.30pm here now, and up until Vipeax's post about maintenance, I'd spent a few hours trying to get on for a bit of Zombie action.

Then I find out that it's not hackers causing the problem, the server's offline for some work. Fine, I understand that maintenance is something that needs to be done. Finding out that it's maintenance after trying to get onto a server for three hours or so, that's frustrating.

A bit of communication goes a long way.

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You obviously misread Vipex post, you could not play even if there were no maintenance. The DDOS is still ongoing, and clever as they are, they are doing the maintenance when the DDOS is still running. I find that highly intelligent and quite userfriendly.

[fourty7 11]

Sorry to not have introduced myself yet, but time's are tough, and beans are not abundant at the moment. I've been playing DayZ for about a month and a half, and ArmA for 3-4 years, and have a thorough understanding of how "Lag" effects the game. As different as it is with a relay (HIVE) server. So 2 days ago was the first 'serious' DDoS on HIVE I've experienced... When I say serious, I mean like, the majority of the day. When it happened then, it was constant; The HIVE Server went down (Or desynced due to DDoS) and did not come back up until it was fixed. Today it seemed to have a toggle, possibly an attempt at being less-traceable, or possibly changing the IP / LAN the Bot-Host computer was running from in between. Average 3-15 minute attack waves with short breaks in between.

The following is all theory, so don't get me wrong I'm not saying this is what is true, but I've seen this happen many times to communities, especially mods that get popular. I didn't even hear about this, but apparently this happened one month ago...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/117838-DayZ-Servers-Hacked

It's highly possible that this 'virus' contained the bot application/process that is being used to attack the DayZ Hive server right now... And if that's true, then that means a good majority of the bots being used to attack are actual DayZ players... The delay makes that questionable, but they may have required the initial hack for information of weaknesses in HIVE and made their fixes in the meantime. It seems the majority of the leads go to this person going by the name of "Green Arrow".

His Hack-Forums Posts (Focus on "Port Question")

http://www.hackforums.net/search.php?action=results&sid=399c0562c5b55ebd6e911f9a88c80f8a

His Steam Account (Not garaunteed but quite obvious)

http://steamcommunity.com/id/greenarrew

(Already previously said in various threads on DayZ forums) His posts on HackForums show that he stole a laptop (A good hacker uses a laptop never used by them before, on stolen internet, to be completely untraceable), got help unlocking it (Most people seemed to despise the theft in the first place), and has been learning to hack over the past few years. One person goes on to post the following, and has green credibility on the HackForums along with 59 posts prior...

"your an annoying little fuck why would you ddos DayZ, a free mod, are you just butthurt that you were banned for cheating in a game? Fucking script kiddy claiming to be a hacker on twitter and official forums, i actually lolled" -jimmyxtreme

So it seems they know something others don't. I also had read (I think on DayZ forums) that the IP he posted on the HackForums on was from Ontario, Canada. Could be a mask, but most likely not, if this info is even credible in the first place. Also everyone on hack forums seems to completely hate him now, and not for the DayZ thing, seems to be because he's just a terrible person in general.

Although this "Green Arrow" character could just be someone trying to make a name for themsleves with others work, but they seem to have no trouble hacking people's steam accounts so it may not be a bluff. Although I felt the level of DDoS on DayZ has seemed more... Corporate level. Although everything (HIVE:Attackers ISP's limits, # of bots attacking, ammount of credible connections to hive, etc.) is variable, so until everyone helps figure out who this is and destroy their ability to access the internet we will never, and may never know the truth.

(Not important / complete assumption) I personally think that the popularity of DayZ made some game company scared. I bought ArmA 2 when it was released, and the OFP/ArmA series has always been shunned by online media, although it is a whole game (Sim) style that no other companies have produced... There are, but they are just arcade jokes. DayZ created a community of 1/10th of a million people before even reaching beta stage (Congrats, seriously.).. Which is unheard of, and they know that a good chunk of those people were playing their games. This game is more fun than and larger than MMO's, and people have no problem spending absurd ammounts of time on it, without having stat points to increase etc. It's a new game theory, one that will (And has) be caught on quick and loved.

The worst part... Everyone asks "Why would anyone DDoS DayZ". If it's not someone who was banned (Green Arrow?), and I never thought it was... As you know, A few popular MMO's have more than a million players. Most of them cost more than $10/month (Product price is insignificant). So, do the math on this..

1,000,000 x $10 = $10,000,000 / month. Even if you have to pay a million dollars of that to your staff and server costs... That's 9 million a month profit. And they are way greedier than that, it's depressing. As we all know, greedy people don't stop. There never is that point where they feel they've had "Enough", so they get everything they can, and stop anything that will prevent them from doing that. Especially when they have the resources (Money, Servers, Connections, Etc.) to control a majority of the internet.

On a better note, a few people I know said they are attempting to hunt them down and counter attack in any way possible, or destroy the attackers resources if possible... I don't think they'll find him, if he actually knows what he's doing they wont find a trace, but if he is as noob as he seems to be on those HackForums, it's only a matter of time before somebody gets this bastard.

Sorry for the book, thank you for reading, I'll be around.

P.S. If you don't like what's going on, offer to help, or have some patience. Complaining, requesting responses etc, will only delay anything being fixed.

[Patient Zero 2]

After the hive is restored does this mean the ddos attacks will stop as well?

thanx for any updates <3

The two things are not connected.

The DDos attack will stop when the attacker runs out of cash or gets bored or arrested.

Normally these things burn out after a day or 2

[Savage_MF 0]

It's a social experiment to determine the effects of not playing for 3-4 hours. Could withdrawal be a factor determining the cause for the "infection"?

/me checks weapons...again, while grinding teeth.

[Vipeax 318]

Fourty7, I read your entire post, but I'd like to add it's not related to that announcement from weeks ago. It's difficult to explain, but it should all be fine again very soon, just hang on!

[Izziee 128]

Hey Guys' date='

I just registered to say thank you for doing what you do in your free time. It's awesome how a few people can produce a game that is way better compared to the base game. I salute you for your patience with some of the users of this forum, demanding things even a mulimillion dollar company cannot provide. You have to imagine these guys actually used their brains thinking, it's down anyways, so let's do maintenance - have you ever seen a big company do that?

I say thanks again for your awesome work, keep it up and please don't get frustrated. You have to know that the silent majority is with your decision and seemingly a lot more haters have the energy to register to your forum.

Thanks to the Dev Team

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There should be a level of professionalism that i have yet to see from the team. Yes the game is great, one of the best games i have played, but that doesn't excuse that fact 90% of the time the people who play their game are left having no idea what is going on because there is never any warning when shit happens. On top of that, when we do find at something has gone wrong, we never find out why or for how long things will be out for.

Great game, need to lift the professionalism

Yes and no.

Normal players are often modders, I've modded way way back in United Offensive day's (The only CoD I liked, was realism rather than arcade), if I had made a mod like this, I wouldn't care about rager number #7364832. You can either be grateful for playing something given to you free, or get out.

They don't get paid for this, and I don't quite know the deal with it, I won't pretend to and I'm sure it's opened opportunities for them but if I wasn't getting paid I would do WTF I want with MY mod WHEN I wanted. You should feel privileged to get to play for it. I expect they've received donations, since some terrible youtube people get them for utter crap, and this is far from it, but at the end of the day, why SHOULD they jump hoops for you, me, everyone else whining?

However, if they want to progress and even become a game development team creating standalone games, then yeah, maybe they should, but right now, getting a MOD in ALPHA fixed, working and up to date is far more important than catering to whiners. Especially when they claim to not get paid and I expect a small team of them.

Since it's Alpha, and since you don't pay for it (Buying Arma means NOTHING, nothing AT ALL) and considering a lot of the bugs are because of Arma, then no one has any right to complain.

[Vlad_I 2]

Holly shit i just went through a couple pages of nothing but whining and complaining just to read what the actual dev team is saying. Have you all forgotten that this is an ALPHA version of a MODIFICATION developed by a small number of people? This isnt EA or DICE or whatever with their enormous offices and million-dollar budgets. They DO NOT have this type of manpower or resources to deal with all of your whiny wishes and do's and dont's. You are not entitled to anything at this point so please... please... give these guys a break. Go do something else as clearly this issue is being worked on, its summer time for fucks sake...

[Vipeax 318]

I expect they've received donations

We don't accept donations, but enough on the money subject. It's way too off-topic and a rather meaningless discussion. Thanks for the support.

[themarathonseason 0]

I can relate to AussieStig's frustration.

It's pretty simple - lack of communication. I'd been keeping my eyes on the forum from a bit after midday' date=' local time. It's 9.30pm here now, and up until Vipeax's post about maintenance, I'd spent a few hours trying to get on for a bit of Zombie action.

Then I find out that it's not hackers causing the problem, the server's offline for some work. Fine, I understand that maintenance is something that needs to be done. Finding out that it's maintenance after trying to get onto a server for three hours or so, that's frustrating.

A bit of communication goes a long way.

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The servers were initially down because of the DDoS attack. They decided to take advantage of the downtime and do some maintenance. Also keep in mind that this is an alpha + the mod developers aren't getting paid to work on this--it is completely out of the kindness of their heart.

[ActionManZlt 160]

Is this fucking serious? Jesus christ' date=' give us a bit of warning next time you pull a 'maintenance' during Australian prime time.

[/quote']Are you serious? Next time, lower your expectations when playing an Alpha of a game, especially a free mod. You're a fucking volunteer tester for christ's sake!

Also, Australian peak hours == global non-peak hours. We're just 20Mil people on the wrong side of the planet -- there's cities elsewhere in the world that are more populous than our entire nation combined. You really think they're going to do maintenance at global peak hour, and have 1000x more butt-hurt self-entitled douches complaining? Jeez...

Im surprised your government even allows you people to play DayZ' date=' what with all the blood and violence. Do you guys have a version that squirts out butterflies instead of blood?[/quote']Arma is only "Mature" rated, not "Adults Only"/"Restricted", which is the category disallowed in the past (usually you get in that category for sex, not blood). Thankfully, the government finally approved the "R18+" rating for games (it was only the southern state's old fundamentalist Attorney-General who was blocking the R18+ class of games), so we're not backwards on game classification any more! Rejoice!

[fourty7 11]

I know it's unrelated, I couldnt post a new thread in this topic, and I figured it would be unread elsewhere ;(

[BabylonDK 7]

I expect they've received donations

We don't accept donations' date=' but enough on the money subject. It's way too off-topic and a rather meaningless discussion. Thanks for the support.

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Any ETA ?

[Vipeax 318]

See the title of this thread.

[euphoric_energy@hotmail.com 0]

After the hive is restored does this mean the ddos attacks will stop as well?

thanx for any updates <3

The two things are not connected.

The DDos attack will stop when the attacker runs out of cash or gets bored or arrested.

Normally these things burn out after a day or 2

thank you!

[Dubmeister 0]

Vipeax, many don't seem to be thanking you but I shall thank you for everyone :)

Very helpful when people really need to know whats going on and keeping a calm attitude to those unable to understand things when told to them a hundred times.

Much love <3 haha