New update broken? I'll try to be constructive

[Vattenlarv 81]

Hola sobrevivientes!

 

Everyone who has played DayZ since the latest update have a thing or two to say about it. Some are furious and think the devs have raped DayZ to death. Some think it's heading in the right direction. Here's my take on a few things.

 

Melee

 

I've been puzzled when it comes to the melee weapons since I first started playing DayZ so this is a little out of context.

 

If they want it to be a harsh, unforgiving and somewhat realistic experience then the melee weapons should be completely overhauled. Harsh and unforgiving doesn't mix well with totally unrealistic. If you've ever used a hammer, machete, sledgehammer, axe or even a tire iron in real life then you would know that all of these items could kill pretty much anyone or anything in a single strike if you hit a critical part of the creature.

 

Bashing a zombie ten times with a pristine machete and it's still standing and fighting like crazy?! It should be a pile of blood and limbs. 

 

I'm not really sure what the backstory is, but I'm guessing that it's not a legion of crackhead wolverines that has been unleashed in chernarus.

 

Food and drinks

 

Ok, I understand that we can not go full realism on this one because then you could eat a can of baked beans, an apple and drink a coke (when not starving or thirsty) and be ready to stroll across the entire map using roads and paths. But come on... 

 

Today I was starving. I ate more than ten apples and two canned tunas within a time frame of 10 minutes and starved again less than 15 minutes later. If someone was actually starving and ate that much he would get very sick from eating too much. It would be better if my character had to sit down to rest and digest the food for a couple of minutes. I'd prefer that over standing out in the open picking apples for the same amount of time and get KOSed while doing so (happened earlier today).

 

A can of baked beans, some tuna, a tomato, a couple of apples and plenty of water would be a full day's rations in a real life survival situation. Eating a couple dozens of apples, half a kilo of tuna and canned bacon and find yourself starving less than an hour later is just ridiculous. Especially when food is so scarce.

 

IMO it would be better if the devs made it more exhausting and difficult to travel. The constant sprinting through all kinds of terrain is equally ridiculous.

 

...and for the love of Odin, make it possible to put a piece of meat and vegetables on a sharpened stick to cook it.

 

Loot spawn

 

I prefer less loot. Less weapons, ammo, clothing and food... as long as a can of beans or an apple actually has a substantial effect on my character's hunger and health.

 

 

 

That's all for now folks...

Edited April 6, 2015 by Vattenlarv

[Ceez 1]

I agree with everything you've said, and I have a couple things to add as well. One thing that ticks me off is that they are trying to make the zombies more relentless but they dont realize how hard it really is having useless weapons and useless guns. Add in the fact that some people (like me) dont have the best hardware and are struggling in towns where i get 30 fps max. Trying to whack a zombie 5 times with an axe while they are moving full speed, making you flinch, with terrible melee mechanics and terrible fps is impossible. The food is just ridiculous..i ate 2 entire pumpkins but i go from "starving" to yellow hungry, but i ate so much i threw up and went back to dark orange hungry. The game just needs a few key things thought out again and over-hauled as you said. I honestly think if they want zombies to be that brutal they need to make different classes of zombies. Not just 1 type of ridiculous "see you across the map. coming to get you" zombie that smacks you 10 times before you can do anything. 

Edited April 5, 2015 by Ceez

[preacherlr 614]

struggling in towns where i get 30 fps max. 

Please tell me this is a typo..

[HarryPotter (DayZ) 172]

I'm sure the hunger thing will be tweaked I'm time (I hope)

[ebrim 998]

I disagree with most of your premises but I appreciate the way you write it, so beans!

 

I do however agree that being able to roast things on a sharpened stick really needs to be implemented.

 

For melee, I suggest aiming for the head. Going to 1pp during a fight makes this far easier. They really don't live long when smacked in the head with basically anything.

 

For food, you're just not getting many calories out of apples, they're great for hydration though. Eating 3 or 4 berries will lift you a level of hunger typically. Were you cold during all this? That rate of calorie loss I've only experienced while hypothermic and sprinting.

[LoveAffair 329]

We so need cooking on sticks. Can we still use a stone in a regular fire to cook ? They make the food hard but then give us no cooking pot or even matches to cook said food :)  Can we eat raw fish  or will we get sick ? I like the zombies , i wish there were more and a bit harder. That would keep the roving gangs away or at least busy and they would forget about me :) To that Preach guy, it is not a typo i get about 40-45 fps in city , we all don't have NASA sir. Ebrim is correct , just go for the head. Pick ax or small ax seem to work best. Like 2 head shots and there down. Or just run away they will slow down after a bit. I just run then when they slow down i turn and shoot them. Or lock them in a house for the next cute boy. I could live with the game as is just fine except , GIVE US MATCHES PLEASE !

Edited April 5, 2015 by LoveAffair

[Vattenlarv 81]

I disagree with most of your premises but I appreciate the way you write it, so beans!

 

I do however agree that being able to roast things on a sharpened stick really needs to be implemented.

 

For melee, I suggest aiming for the head. Going to 1pp during a fight makes this far easier. They really don't live long when smacked in the head with basically anything.

 

For food, you're just not getting many calories out of apples, they're great for hydration though. Eating 3 or 4 berries will lift you a level of hunger typically. Were you cold during all this? That rate of calorie loss I've only experienced while hypothermic and sprinting.

 

I had a pretty rough journey up until the "apple picker murderer" kicked my ass. I got roughed up by a couple of crackheads, was on the verge of starvation a couple of times and had not seen much of nutrition throughout my journey. But I wasn't cold or dehydrated and I rarely sprint because it ruins my experience (I tend to roleplay a bit by myself for my own masochistic amusement).

 

I had some friends on TS, scattered all over chernarus, experiencing the same difficulty to get energized. 

 

At the end of our session manic and desperate cries could be heard echoing in our TS... "- Apples... must... pick apples... apples... APPLES!!!"

 

Edit; I'm a pretty good crackhead executioner. They usually go down without me being too bothered. I still think two or three machete torso strikes should silence them tho... at least make them a lot weaker e.g. they go prone and crawl at you, making them less of a nuisance.

Edited April 5, 2015 by Vattenlarv

[preacherlr 614]

We so need cooking on sticks. Can we still use a stone in a regular fire to cook ? They make the food hard but then give us no cooking pot or even matches to cook said food :)  Can we eat raw fish  or will we get sick ? I like the zombies , i wish there were more and a bit harder. That would keep the roving gangs away or at least busy and they would forget about me :) To that Preach guy, it is not a typo i get about 40-45 fps in city , we all don't have NASA sir. Ebrim is correct , just go for the head. Pick ax or small ax seem to work best. Like 2 head shots and there down. Or just run away they will slow down after a bit. I just run then when they slow down i turn and shoot them. Or lock them in a house for the next cute boy. I could live with the game as is just fine except , GIVE US MATCHES PLEASE !

I was more so pointing out the fact that he was complaining about 30 fps.. 

I get a solid 30-45 fps in most of the big cities, but it does occasionally have a massive drop.

Complaining about 30 fps, is like complaining about the speed that real life moves at. As long as you can keep it constant, 30 fps is perfectly fine.

A few of the people I play with have 20 tops, My girlfriend played on a laptop where she'd get 8 in cities.

30 fps, Good.

8-15 fps bad.

[battlerhd 116]

Yes loot on private servers is silly at the moment, I went into a low pop to test this knowing it had not been looted and got a Cherno spawn. In the time I looted all of Cherno and ran to Balota food and drink wise all I found was 1 Pepsi, and that was in the airfield. I didn't make it to the prison island because of starvation. For me the loot system they had was fine, there was a decent amount spawning everywhere and it was enjoyable to play. At the moment on private when you are a freshie, It's just bad and simply not enjoyable.

[Vattenlarv 81]

We so need cooking on sticks. Can we still use a stone in a regular fire to cook ? They make the food hard but then give us no cooking pot or even matches to cook said food :)  Can we eat raw fish  or will we get sick ? I like the zombies , i wish there were more and a bit harder. That would keep the roving gangs away or at least busy and they would forget about me :) To that Preach guy, it is not a typo i get about 40-45 fps in city , we all don't have NASA sir. Ebrim is correct , just go for the head. Pick ax or small ax seem to work best. Like 2 head shots and there down. Or just run away they will slow down after a bit. I just run then when they slow down i turn and shoot them. Or lock them in a house for the next cute boy. I could live with the game as is just fine except , GIVE US MATCHES PLEASE !

 

I got jumped by a crackhead trapped in a room today. Nasty little surprise! They should try to make characters vs crackheads more colloidal or whatever it's called (english is not my first language, but I'd struggle to find a word for it in swedish too). Like two physical beings that can't run/jump/attack through eachother. One second the crackhead is here, then the crackhead's there... the cracky is pretty much everywhere. Knock me back when you jump me crackhead, damn it!

 

Edit; Come to think of it... I only play on first person servers, or one server to be exact. Maybe they're not clipping through me... or are they? 

Edited April 5, 2015 by Vattenlarv

[LoveAffair 329]

I got jumped by a crackhead trapped in a room today. Nasty little surprise! They should try to make characters vs crackheads more colloidal or whatever it's called (english is not my first language, but I'd struggle to find a word for it in swedish too). Like two physical beings that can't run/jump/attack through eachother. One second the crackhead is here, then the crackhead's there... the cracky is pretty much everywhere. Knock me back when you jump me crackhead, damn it!

 

Edit; Come to think of it... I only play on first person servers, or one server to be exact. Maybe they're not clipping through me... or are they? 

You mean like JUMPER ?  1st person server ! I think you might be on crack :)

[Vattenlarv 81]

You mean like JUMPER ?  1st person server ! I think you might be on crack :)

 

I think you're the one having a cracky out of body experience if you can see yourself in third person... that's some trippy shit.

[ebrim 998]

I had a pretty rough journey up until the "apple picker murderer" kicked my ass. I got roughed up by a couple of crackheads, was on the verge of starvation a couple of times and had not seen much of nutrition throughout my journey. But I wasn't cold or dehydrated and I rarely sprint because it ruins my experience (I tend to roleplay a bit by myself for my own masochistic amusement).

 

I had some friends on TS, scattered all over chernarus, experiencing the same difficulty to get energized. 

 

At the end of our session manic and desperate cries could be heard echoing in our TS... "- Apples... must... pick apples... apples... APPLES!!!"

 

Edit; I'm a pretty good crackhead executioner. They usually go down without me being too bothered. I still think two or three machete torso strikes should silence them tho... at least make them a lot weaker e.g. they go prone and crawl at you, making them less of a nuisance.

 

Zombie injuries would be great.

[LoveAffair 329]

I think you're the one having a cracky out of body experience if you can see yourself in third person... that's some trippy shit.

HAHAHAHA No way , It's a computer game. Know wonder your getting jumped so much , all you can see are your two hands :P

[E.J. 16]

I totally agree with the hunger requirements. Getting energized, and being healthy, is good and all. If you consume a moderate amount of food and water, and still starve before the in-game day/night cycle even completes...

 

Actually the zombie nuisance aside, the most irrating thing I percieve in this "persistence default" patch is the lack of being able to create fire from other sources than matches.

[Vattenlarv 81]

HAHAHAHA No way , It's a computer game. Know wonder your getting jumped so much , all you can see are your two hands :P

DayZ a computer game? Blasphemy!!

 

It's an alternate reality /  social experiment that puts humanity's true colors on display. Give people a huge virtual world where they can socialize, trade and cooperate. Add some weapons and watch them hunt.. *hrmf* sorry, I mean ruthlessly slay eachother... over and over again. For that all you need is two hands.

[Vattenlarv 81]

I totally agree with the hunger requirements. Getting energized, and being healthy, is good and all. If you consume a moderate amount of food and water, and still starve before the in-game day/night cycle even completes...

 

Actually the zombie nuisance aside, the most irrating thing I percieve in this "persistence default" patch is the lack of being able to create fire from other sources than matches.

 

We should be able to craft a bow drill or find a tinderbox by now.

[Insane Ruffles 74]

I totally agree 100% with what you are saying. Rare stuff is fine, as long as food actually does something. I go through a week of supplies in one hour. A can of food and a bottle of water should be enough to satiate your character for an hour.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

 A can of food and a bottle of water should be enough to satiate your character for an hour.

Ya, when you're not running full tilt like everyone does

[LoveAffair 329]

DayZ a computer game? Blasphemy!!

 

It's an alternate reality /  social experiment that puts humanity's true colors on display. Give people a huge virtual world where they can socialize, trade and cooperate. Add some weapons and watch them hunt.. *hrmf* sorry, I mean ruthlessly slay eachother... over and over again. For that all you need is two hands.

As for a HUGE VIRTUAL WORLD do you mean Cherno ? :)  Because i don't know many that leave that horrid coast. If you ever leave that insane/why is it even there/rediculous/look i can see my hands/COD/Let me look at gloves all day 1st person server let me know. I can use someone to dig farm plots for me. I'll be on the 3rd pp only server :)  I tease with Love ...

[Ceez 1]

Please tell me this is a typo..

I wish it was. Going to upgrade pretty soon though. Im running an amd a10 5750 apu at the moment so i dont expect much. And btw i said "30 max." not steady 30 its anywhere from 10-30

Edited April 6, 2015 by Ceez

[Etherious 907]

I do not like the new loot spawns especially since I ONLY play on 1 server.....no loot anywhere. >.> Not to mention berries or apples not doing anything. x3

[Ceez 1]

We so need cooking on sticks. Can we still use a stone in a regular fire to cook ? They make the food hard but then give us no cooking pot or even matches to cook said food :)  Can we eat raw fish  or will we get sick ? I like the zombies , i wish there were more and a bit harder. That would keep the roving gangs away or at least busy and they would forget about me :) To that Preach guy, it is not a typo i get about 40-45 fps in city , we all don't have NASA sir. Ebrim is correct , just go for the head. Pick ax or small ax seem to work best. Like 2 head shots and there down. Or just run away they will slow down after a bit. I just run then when they slow down i turn and shoot them. Or lock them in a house for the next cute boy. I could live with the game as is just fine except , GIVE US MATCHES PLEASE !

Like i said though, when theyre running full speed with terrible fps its impossible to kill them. Especially now that it takes 2-3 very well placed shots to the head with an axe instead of 1 or maybe 2 while they have 200% increased attack speed from the last patch.

[E.J. 16]

We should be able to craft a bow drill or find a tinderbox by now.

 

Both of those, stone and flint, road flares, and gun powder...

 

I'd be cool with all of these being rarities, but cumulatively considered, you should be able to find at least one of these methods during a single play session.

 

Without getting into suggestion territory too much, you could find flint by searching quarries, and the volatility of gunpowder would make that method more dangerous.

Edited April 6, 2015 by E.J.

[LoveAffair 329]

Like i said though, when theyre running full speed with terrible fps its impossible to kill them. Especially now that it takes 2-3 very well placed shots to the head with an axe instead of 1 or maybe 2 while they have 200% increased attack speed from the last patch.

 

I think your trying to move. I just stand there and let them wack me 2 or 3 times , your gonna get hit. But if your still it's easy to just  tag them in the head. Let them hit you , It's gonna happen anyway , So either take 2 or 3 standing still or try and run around to not get hit and take like 9 or 10 hits. The choice is yours kid :)