How many times have you been killed by a server hopper?

[Insane Ruffles 74]

The title says it all: How many times have you been killed by a hopper while looting? I say this because it has happened to me twice in the last few days... I use one server for looting because the clan there is friendly and server hoppers arent abundant. I got on with my fully decked out character, full MP5 attachments with supressor, AKM with PSO-1, and a high capacity vest with enough rounds to take on the entire Chernorussian army. I decided to swim to the prison and loot because I wanted to find a drum mag for my AKM. I loot through most of the place and get to the Warden's office building by "the long barracks." I search upstairs and walk downstairs after Im done, and then hear footsteps seemingly come from outside. Startled, I equip my AKM and head upstairs to the room I just cleared. Hello Mr. Serverhopper. Hello death. He mowed me down with his AK74, emptying his whole clip into me and no doubt destroying every piece of gear on me. What really pisses me off is that I was just in that room and had already cleared it.

This completely ruins immersion as now we have to worry about people that arent there. What steps do you think should be taken to stop this? I think people should randomly spawn in the area they were in. Either that, or players spawning in can't damage or be damaged for 40 seconds when spawned. They also shouldn't be able to loot for that time period.

Edited March 17, 2015 by InsaneRuffles

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

I say this because it has happened to me twice in the last few days... I use one server for looting because it barely has anyone on.

As a server hopper you are pissed off that you were killed by a server hopper? Interesting.

[tommy290 941]

The title says it all: How many times have you been killed by a hopper while looting? I say this because it has happened to me twice in the last few days... I use one server for looting because it barely has anyone on. I got on with my fully decked out character, full MP5 attachments with supressor, AKM with PSO-1, and a high capacity vest with enough rounds to take on the entire Chernorussian army. I decided to swim to the prison and loot because I wanted to find a drum mag for my AKM. I loot through most of the place and get to the Warden's office building by "the long barracks." I search upstairs and walk downstairs after Im done, and then hear footsteps seemingly come from outside. Startled, I equip my AKM and head upstairs to the room I just cleared. Hello Mr. Serverhopper. Hello death. He mowed me down with his AK74, emptying his whole clip into me and no doubt destroying every piece of gear on me. What really pisses me off is that I was just in that room and had already cleared it.

 

How do you know it was a server hopper and not someone who just happened to log in to play?

 

Also, you state that you "use one server for looting". That leads me to believe you play on at least two servers, and you don't use the other server for looting. Thus, doesn't that mean you yourself are a server hopper? Is there any difference if someone jumps between two servers and a dozen? Not to me. If you use a low pop server to gear up and then play on a different server, I don't think you have any right to complain when someone kills you who may have been doing the same thing as you.

[Finchtastic 50]

As a server hopper you are pissed off that you were killed by a server hopper? Interesting.

"I use one server for looting".  Now, I'm no English professor...  But to me, it seems like you just ignored the word "one" in the OP's post.

[Finchtastic 50]

How do you know it was a server hopper and not someone who just happened to log in to play?

 

Also, you state that you "use one server for looting". That leads me to believe you play on at least two servers, and you don't use the other server for looting. Thus, doesn't that mean you yourself are a server hopper? Is there any difference if someone jumps between two servers and a dozen? Not to me. If you use a low pop server to gear up and then play on a different server, I don't think you have any right to complain when someone kills you who may have been doing the same thing as you.

Nope, not the same thing.  He plays on one server to loot, meaning if he can't find what he needs, he moves on down the map...  A server hopper can't find what he needs, he just hops 30 servers at the same place until he does.  Playing on 2 different servers, depending on your mood, is not the same thing as hopping server to server to server to server looking for a specific item.

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

"I use one server for looting".  Now, I'm no English professor...  But to me, it seems like you just ignored the word "one" in the OP's post.

No, I didn't ignore that sentence. It implies one server for looting, other servers for other things (such as killing). Thus, server hopping.

[Finchtastic 50]

My friend got it the other day...  he went into the NWAF tent city Officer tent and stopped for a banana.  He shut the door and started eating it and in the middle of eating, some guy spawns right in and kills him, loots his body and logs out before me and my other buddy could get down there from the other officer tent.  We had just traveled all the way down to Solnichny to get him too...

[Finchtastic 50]

No, I didn't ignore that sentence. It implies one server for looting, other servers for other things (such as killing). Thus, server hopping.

Looting on one single server is not server hopping.  I'm sorry, but you don't understand what server hopping is.  Also, you're going to have to server hop for certain items in the future because of the way they designed the public hive loot system, so you should get used to it...  I personally hate the idea, but that's just me.  As I replied to the other guy... playing on 2 different servers of different populations, depending on your mood is not the same thing as hopping 30 servers at the same location for a specific item...  I mean, I play on both low pop and high pop.  Sometimes I just like to play the game and not have to deal with BK 12 year olds from COD all the time, so I play on another server.  Does that make me a server hopper?  Am I supposed to just find one server and stick to it and hope and pray someone joins if I want  little interaction?  That seems a bit extreme to me...

Edited March 16, 2015 by Finchtastic

[Finchtastic 50]

How do you know it was a server hopper and not someone who just happened to log in to play?

 

 

Probably location... I didn't know, because last time I went there all I found was a million pairs of handcuffs... But apparently, the island is a very popular server hopping location these days

[tommy290 941]

Nope, not the same thing.  He plays on one server to loot, meaning if he can't find what he needs, he moves on down the map...  A server hopper can't find what he needs, he just hops 30 servers at the same place until he does.  Playing on 2 different servers, depending on your mood, is not the same thing as hopping server to server to server to server looking for a specific item.

 

I disagree. The methods may be different, but the end goal is the same: trying to get high-end loot without having to worry about other players killing you while you search for it. To me it's a little disingenuous to complain about getting killed by someone who did nothing except log in and defend themselves. There's no evidence the other player was a "server hopper" other than they logged into an area that has arbitrarily been deemed a server hopper hotspot. Even if they were somehow proven to be a server hopper, the OP's complaint is basically "I chose a server that almost no one plays on so I could get loot without any risk, but someone still killed me legitly!"

 

I can only speculate, but I would venture to guess people who switch between servers depending on their mood have a very high correllation between their mood and the amount of high-end gear they currently posses. ;)

[trev186 389]

My thoughts

1. Server hopping is abused when someone hops loads of servers in one place to farm gear(which the OP Cannot prove)

2. Low pop servers are more dangerous in mill areas than high pop

3. It's dayz don't complain if you die

4. The key to getting good loot is not joining a low or high pop server but instead is to join a persist off server after reset and find a truck and hit all the mill bases in north west area quickly plus helis

5. Persist on servers are only good for loot the first couple days then respawns get broken by loot splosions of random places and no loot respawns which in turn ruins the persistence servers for anything but tents.

Edited March 16, 2015 by trev186

[Insane Ruffles 74]

I disagree. The methods may be different, but the end goal is the same: trying to get high-end loot without having to worry about other players killing you while you search for it. To me it's a little disingenuous to complain about getting killed by someone who did nothing except log in and defend themselves. There's no evidence the other player was a "server hopper" other than they logged into an area that has arbitrarily been deemed a server hopper hotspot. Even if they were somehow proven to be a server hopper, the OP's complaint is basically "I chose a server that almost no one plays on so I could get loot without any risk, but someone still killed me legitly!"

I can only speculate, but I would venture to guess people who switch between servers depending on their mood have a very high correllation between their mood and the amount of high-end gear they currently posses. ;)

By that logic, any use of the Public hive is server hopping. No, you are just falsly accusing and even ignoring what I posted. I have been using this server "Band of Brothers" for looting for months now, regardless of the population. Who goes on an extremely low pop server, in the highest loot spot to "Play?" Not only that, but I ran down there afterwords and got there about 10 minutes later. Guess what? All the good loot was gone, including my AKM, and including him. He was kind enough to leave a note on my body though. "Git gud scrub" it said. Not joking.

Also, as I said, what pissed me off was him spawning in a room that I was just in. Its very immersion breaking if you can't ever check something and feel safe, because someone might magically appear in there and ambush you.

Edited March 16, 2015 by InsaneRuffles

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

Looting on one single server is not server hopping.  I'm sorry, but you don't understand what server hopping is.  Also, you're going to have to server hop for certain items in the future because of the way they designed the public hive loot system, so you should get used to it...  I personally hate the idea, but that's just me.  As I replied to the other guy... playing on 2 different servers of different populations, depending on your mood is not the same thing as hopping 30 servers at the same location for a specific item...  I mean, I play on both low pop and high pop.  Sometimes I just like to play the game and not have to deal with BK 12 year olds from COD all the time, so I play on another server.  Does that make me a server hopper?  Am I supposed to just find one server and stick to it and hope and pray someone joins if I want  little interaction?  That seems a bit extreme to me...

There's nothing wrong with deciding to play on a lower pop server or higher pop to suit your mood. However, logging into a low pop to loot risk free so you can log into a higher pop server and start killing is server hopping. I fully understand what server hopping is - it's not exactly sitting in the ATC, jail, etc and logging in looting and logging out to log back into another server immediately (albeit that's the worst kind). The only justifiable server hopping imo is to avoid a pink flamingo or something like that, or maybe to join up with friends. Intentionally looting a no-low pop server so you have no risk to then join a higher pop server to get action is pretty lame.

[Insane Ruffles 74]

There's nothing wrong with deciding to play on a lower pop server or higher pop to suit your mood. However, logging into a low pop to loot risk free so you can log into a higher pop server and start killing is server hopping. I fully understand what server hopping is - it's not exactly sitting in the ATC, jail, etc and logging in looting and logging out to log back into another server immediately (albeit that's the worst kind). The only justifiable server hopping imo is to avoid a pink flamingo or something like that, or maybe to join up with friends. Intentionally looting a no-low pop server so you have no risk to then join a higher pop server to get action is pretty lame.

Again, I always use this server for loot, regardless of the population.

[tommy290 941]

By that logic, any use of the Public hive is server hopping. No, you are just falsly accusing and even ignoring what I posted. I have been using this server "Band of Brothers" for looting for months now, regardless of the population. Who goes on an extremely low pop server, in the highest loot spot to "Play?" Not only that, but I ran down there afterwords and got there about 10 minutes later. Guess what? All the good loot was gone, including my AKM, and including him. He was kind enough to leave a note on my body though. "Git gud scrub" it said. Not joking.

Also, as I said, what pissed me off was him spawning in a room that I was just in. Its very immersion breaking if you can't ever check something and feel safe, because someone might magically appear in there and ambush you.

 

I wouldn't really call it an ambush, since they would have no way of knowing you were there. I'm not sure what other option there would be to avoid the situation, aside from not letting people log in where they logged out. Seems that would be a little jarring as well, kind of like waking up and not being in the same spot you went to sleep.

[tommy290 941]

Again, I always use this server for loot, regardless of the population.

 

Then why not just play on the server you go to for action all the time? If population isn't a factor, why loot on one server as opposed to another?

[Insane Ruffles 74]

Then why not just play on the server you go to for action all the time? If population isn't a factor, why loot on one server as opposed to another?

Because it is one of the only servers that doesnt have many server hoppers, and it has very consistent loot. The Clan there is also friendly, and wont shoot you on site, unlike server hoppers.

[buddy_cassino 69]

...I use one server for looting because it barely has anyone on...

 

Again, I always use this server for loot, regardless of the population.

 

[Chuck67 15]

90% of the people who play public will server hop.

Publics are basically death match games anyways. Play on private shards if you wanna avoid hoppers

[Insane Ruffles 74]

Yeah, like I said, population was a factor when PICKING the server. I still use this one server constantly though, even if it has 20 people on, so what's the problem? Would you rather I go onto a high pop server and get shot at every single good loot location I go to? Because that's exactly what happens. The good loot on those servers is also close to none. Edited March 16, 2015 by InsaneRuffles

[sneakydudes 278]

They need to as stated before logout locations. That clearly says "it is not safe to logout here".

Not one thing you can do to prevent players from logging into the game. Unless you have a 5 minute no damage, no fire lock on the newbie player.

 

But hey what do i know, not my game just suggesting it.

[blowurselfup 54]

90% of the people who play public will server hop.

Publics are basically death match games anyways. Play on private shards if you wanna avoid hoppers

 

I'm not sure about the percentage B) But...yes I agree

 

From my experience, there is less KOS (in demilitarized areas) on private shard servers

[AlphaDogMeat . 493]

I use one server for looting because it barely has anyone on. ... He mowed me down with his AK74, emptying his whole clip into me and no doubt destroying every piece of gear on me.

 

Loots up on empty server; finds server isn't empty.

 

Cries on forums.

 

That's no way to go through life, son...

[Insane Ruffles 74]

Loots up on empty server; finds server isn't empty.

Cries on forums.

That's no way to go through life, son...

Read the damn post people, god, is it that hard? Are you illiterate? He spawned in right behind me, like the post SAYS. The server was NOT empty. I posted because magically appearing people are a problem as they can pop up anywhere. If you aren't going to read the topic, and if you are going to go off topic then don't post.

Sweet Jesus.

[zeotrope 76]

Anyway. To answer the OP's question. No. Never been killed by a server hopper like you. Calling us illiterate is abusive, server hopper. Magically appearing people as you state could merely be logging in. You cannot prove otherwise. Move along.