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Cannot use an improvised suppressor with a mosin compensator

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well.. i just tested the plausability of this improvised supressor by winding a plastic bottle with tape and taping it to the end of a .22 rifle IRL

 

the bottle violently flew off the end of the rifle. the bullet hit the target, yet on the bottle the hole massive gap was located on the side of the bottle (the cylindrical part). i also got a mean amount of smoke and residue in my face that came from the chamber area

 

not doing that again

 

edit: it was loud

 

A real suppressor has baffling and material of some sort inside of it which, for a lack of better terms, absorbs muffles the sound. Of course a water bottle by itself duct-taped to a gun isn't going to suppress the sound. 

 

There are automotive oil filter suppressors, that actually work quite well and would make more sense in DayZ.

 

Lets not even get into the fact that if you want a suppressor to truly be effective, you must use sub-sonic rounds.

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well.. i just tested the plausability of this improvised supressor by winding a plastic bottle with tape and taping it to the end of a .22 rifle IRL

 

the bottle violently flew off the end of the rifle. the bullet hit the target, yet on the bottle the hole massive gap was located on the side of the bottle (the cylindrical part). i also got a mean amount of smoke and residue in my face that came from the chamber area

 

not doing that again

 

edit: it was loud

That surpressor would have exploded if you put it on a garden hose. I think you may have forgotten to make a hole in the "business end." Gas needs to escape.

Next time try stuffing the bottle with cotton balls, and drilling out the bottom of the bottle.  Cotton may ignite and smolder.

For better performance:  Take a PVC pipe smaller than the bottle mouth, but decenlty larger than the bore; kerf the sides with a hacksaw, spaced about 7 mm apart, leaving the first and last 30mm of the pipe untouched, drill a 10mm hole clear through the pipe at the 'reserved' end farthest from the barrel; insert pipe in plastic bottle and secure to both ends of the bottle.

Last step: Make sure you are aware of the laws regarding manufacture of imporvised surpressors in your jurisdiction.  (You might want to do this part first)

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i'm not looking to make a working improvised surpressor :) i have a factory-made one already. i wasn't really expecting it to work either. just curious what the result would have been if done dayz-style. and you're right, should have made a hole at the end 

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That surpressor would have exploded if you put it on a garden hose. I think you may have forgotten to make a hole in the "business end." Gas needs to escape.

Next time try stuffing the bottle with cotton balls, and drilling out the bottom of the bottle.  Cotton may ignite and smolder.

For better performance:  Take a PVC pipe smaller than the bottle mouth, but decenlty larger than the bore; kerf the sides with a hacksaw, spaced about 7 mm apart, leaving the first and last 30mm of the pipe untouched, drill a 10mm hole clear through the pipe at the 'reserved' end farthest from the barrel; insert pipe in plastic bottle and secure to both ends of the bottle.

Last step: Make sure you are aware of the laws regarding manufacture of imporvised surpressors in your jurisdiction.  (You might want to do this part first)

 

Yeah, fill it with something like wool or nylon twine and make sure you drill small holes in the front / sides.  If it's a pressure vessel it will probably just amplify the sound, and although it's probably not going to be strong enough to restrict gas flow, the explosion of the bottle may be dangerous as i think he found out ;).

 

For a .22 you probably only need a little kid's juice bottle or something.

 

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Not. At. All. At least not in any concise sense.

Compensators direct gas to... compensate... for recoil in the designated direction allowing the shooter to feel less perceived muzzle climb.

Suppressors trap and nullify escaping gasses in a series of baffles that kills the sound of the expanding gas from a round but don't effect muzzle climb.

One is directing the gas; one is nullifying it. The only thing similar is that they are both devices that focus function around residual gas from the barrel.

Neither one effects the actual super sonic crack of the round itself... which is why subsonic ammo exists... Oh how I wish this game had subsonic rounds.

 

OK yes you're correct on a more semantic level.  But i'd say that a hydraulic shock absorber works in a similar fashion to a pneumatic hammer, but of course there are differences.  The take home message is that the two both change the direction of flow and rate of escape / expansion of the gasses released due to propellant combustion, which is one of the main sources of sound released due to weapon operation.  The two items are not co-compatable.  Watch the suppressor video, it pretty much rehashes everything we've said together, and the revolver note at the start is directly applicable to why the two will not work in tandem.

 

Edited by q.S Sachiel

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