LORDPrometheus 21 Posted January 13, 2015 This topic is just to get a feel for what the community consensus is on server hopping the 60 second countdown and how it relates to server crashes and game load timesThe biggest question I am trying to pose is wether or not the obnoxious sixty second countdown to join a server following disconnecting from that server or a different one is A effective at stopping server hoppers, B applied correctly, and/or C improving load times.First things first if your disconnected from a server due to time out, client crash, or restart should you need to wraith the 60 seconds to get back on the same server as you were just on? Why should I be punished like a server hopper for my sister streaming netflix off the wrong wifi network? In my opinion your most recent server should be saved and you should not be required to wait to rejoin. Don't get me wrong sixty seconds isn't a big deal its just sort of insult to injury, oh your client crashed here wait a minute before you get on.Beyond that is it even a good thing? Its objective is to slow down and deter server hoppers from camping out in a military location and getting all the loot on every server but does it do that? Looting the vybor military base, if your fast or better yet working as a team, takes only a few minutes let's say three for a quick once over. Logging out takes ten seconds and then joining a new server takes another minute. It's not exactly hard for someone to loot twelve or more servers in an hour. So is it providing server hoppers with anything but a continent pee break? I don't think so.Finally could this time be used more effectively? absolutely. When your logging in with a sixth second timer only the last fifteen or so seconds are spent loading the world why? If I already have to wait a minute to join why do I then have to wait another thirty seconds to a minute to see my surroundings. Why doesn't the server start to load everything the second the timer starts ticking?Anyway these are just a few thoughts please share your own opinions and if that opinion is "ha ah your a wuss for not wanting to wait or I can loot vybor in two minutes" then oh well that's not my problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death By Crowbar 1213 Posted January 13, 2015 The biggest question I am trying to pose is wether or not the obnoxious sixty second countdown to join a server following disconnecting from that server or a different one is A effective at stopping server hoppers, B applied correctly, and/or C improving load times.It's not effective, but it's prohibitive enough while not being too punitive to people who legitimately are trying to log back in that it's worth doing until something better is found. It's difficult to determine why you're reconnecting (server hopping, moving from low pop to high pop, crash, network blip, log out for bio break, phone call, etc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gannon46 788 Posted January 13, 2015 ther timer is also to stop ghosting back when it was first released if you got into a gun fight etc some folks would log they didn't sit down for 30- seconds they would vanish then they would go to a server to move in a better position re log on the other server and kill you which was BS. so to combat that they implemented a log out timer and a log in timer. the log in timer is also for server hoppers though not as effective. i think its amazing the patience some folks have to wait for a log in timer to go try and find some piece of gear they might lose mere seconds after obtaining it. i see your point how if your game crashes etc you have to wait but such is the price to try and keep d-baggery to a minimum. just think we wouldn't have to wait if there weren't exploiters and ass hats but such is the internet and gaming there's always some shit bag amongst regular folks. all i can say is get used to it or try and fix your internet situation by the way why do folks play online game with WIFI hardline that shit you get your true speed instead of like a 1/3 of it and you get no interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJFlint 357 Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I think what you will hear on the forums regarding server hopping will be one thing and what really goes on in game another. Server hopping is something that goes on quite abit ingame. Its the "I have to have the best gear posible" and the collector player mind set that causes it. The thing about dayz is there is no god like items. None of it is going to help you if your not all that good at the game...It seems to happen on public servers low pops mainly. Timers cut down on it but it still goes on. People on the forums tend to frown on stuff like, KOS, server hopping, "Hackers", 1pp vs 3pp and even recently the use of team speak lol.....not kidding...Yet minus the hacker part, there is a whole lot of KOSing and server hoping going on in game.........Something has to give here, whos doing it? :o lol So If you serously are anti server hopping then your vary best bet is to play on private servers. Edited January 13, 2015 by CJFlint Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rags! 1966 Posted January 13, 2015 Server hopping is bad. It's for cowards and lazy players who feel entitled to the best gear in the game and refuse to compete with other players for it. If you server hop, you are the scum of the community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jukaga 271 Posted January 13, 2015 Server loot hopping is not the problem it was meant to solve, it was to prevent or mitigate combat ghosting which was and is a far bigger problem than AKM mag hoarders. After all, those hoppers go to die on the beach promptly and re-distribute their gear in short order. Combat ghosters ruin the dynamics of the best part of the game: a sphincter-clenching, cold sweat legit gun fight. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CANUCKinNZ 108 Posted January 13, 2015 Yep, I think it's more to prevent combat loggers than server hoppers although 1 minute isn't long enough right now. A combat logger hears a gunshot or gets in a battle with you. They log out, jump to another server, change their position, (Usually right behind where you are hiding!) and then log back into your server shoot you in the back. The worst kind of player! A few patches ago it was dependant on how long you have been in that particular server if I remember correctly? If you were in for under a half hour it was like a 3 minute wait I think? Then over an hour it was only 60 seconds. I am not sure why they got rid of it but I think this type of timer will come back in some form or another soon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nexventor 429 Posted January 14, 2015 The 60 second timer was never intended to discourage server hoppers, it was to stop ghosting. I have no problem with servers hoppers as long as they don't combat log. I want to kill fully kitted guys so the quicker they get kitted, the quicker I get to kill them. It used to 6 minutes so stop whinging lol The 60 second timer is irrelevant as they will be soon releasing server tools so that admins can choose their own timer if any at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
