soranx 0 Posted November 27, 2014 Hello fellas. as title says "DayZ dedicated server files? when we get them?" anyone have an clue when we get them? i read tons of stuff till now and i remember BI tould earlier that we will get the files 6 months after the server hosters but its already over an year since.. so any clue anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IkaikaKekai 1957 Posted November 27, 2014 Don't recall hearing that '6 months' thing. Probably wont even be next year unless they make leaps and bounds progress wise. It's not mentioned in the recent roadmap at all though it might come out in the Beta phase or when they allow modding. Basically I wouldn't be buying a server rig just yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) i remember BI tould earlier that we will get the files 6 months after the server hosters I too have never heard of a statement like this. The files will be released at a later stage of the development, due to security reasons. There is no point in releasing them in the meantime when the base-game isn't done yet. The only thing that will do is split the community. Right now in this controlled system by BI we atleast can be sure that every server is on the same version, gets regular maintenance, etc. As soon as the serverfiles are released it's bound to be a massive clusterfuck of servers noone can control anymore. Edited November 27, 2014 by kichilron 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thznutz 112 Posted December 4, 2014 I too have never heard of a statement like this. The files will be released at a later stage of the development, due to security reasons. There is no point in releasing them in the meantime when the base-game isn't done yet. The only thing that will do is split the community. Right now in this controlled system by BI we atleast can be sure that every server is on the same version, gets regular maintenance, etc. As soon as the serverfiles are released it's bound to be a massive clusterfuck of servers noone can control anymore.ah...but what a glorious massive clusterfuck it will be...i for one cannot wait for private hives. the ability to run a dedicated server is a big selling point and something i always love to see with any game i consider playing. my own hive means i do not get to play with as many other people, but will guarantee to a much higher degree the quality of player for those encounters....90% loner/small group player anyway, much more into the survival aspect, and a private hive is the only real way i see to make sure the "fuckery" level stays tolerable. no, i will not host a "9000 vehicle, auto refuel, self blood bag" fiasco, but hey....to each their own.... bring on the clusterfuck :beans: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted December 4, 2014 Private Hives are already available, just through Trusted GSP's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thznutz 112 Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Private Hives are already available, just through Trusted GSP's.must've missed that, as i read it they were labeled as a private shard, which i'm sure was termed as such deliberately. had it been announced as "private hive", then tons of people would be expecting to host their own server, as it was with the Mod, not through some GSP, so essentially you guys are holding private hives for ransom? if its truly a private hive, why should i have to pay a inflated amount of money to some provider that may or may not do an acceptable job? i didnt spend the money i have on hardware or arrange for the bandwidth i have available to then turn around and pay someone else "because you says so"....what criteria must be met to be a GSP? uptime %? i understand that its still under development, and that the files wont be released until complete further down the road (as it should be), and that this is probably a quality control measure, but its also simply a "control" measure. private shard=$$$$ hosted only by GSP, zero control over serverprivate hive =$ hosted by gamers for gamers, and sometimes just for ones self--total control over server looking forward to real private hives being available *edit-spelling Edited December 4, 2014 by thznutz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted December 4, 2014 private shard=$$$$ hosted only by GSP, zero control over serverprivate hive =$ hosted by gamers for gamers, and sometimes just for ones self--total control over server Your thoughts are flawed at the step where you're thinking the Devs are making any money directly off of this.. The only reason it is the way it is, is because of the control over the servers at this early stage - not because they're making any money with this. And it is a true Private server with its own Database and everything. Don't expect it to change too soon, there's a reason it's locked down at this very early stage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thznutz 112 Posted December 4, 2014 Your thoughts are flawed at the step where you're thinking the Devs are making any money directly off of this.. The only reason it is the way it is, is because of the control over the servers at this early stage - not because they're making any money with this. And it is a true Private server with its own Database and everything. Don't expect it to change too soon, there's a reason it's locked down at this very early stage.point to the spot again where i said the Dev's were making any money from forced GSP hosting? the dollar signs reflect cost to the consumer, meaning what i pay, not what the dev's make-- it is not a private hive, its a private shard because it costs extra, the ability to run a private hive is already in the game i paid for, once complete---which i said was fine and to be expected. i dont expect it to change soon, and i agreed its a quality control/control thing simply because its early in development. are you stating it was announced as a "private hive"? it was not, it was announced as a private shard, with the difference being it will cost more to host it through a GSP, and game owners will not be able to run their own dedi server...surely you can see the difference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted December 4, 2014 surely you can see the difference? A Private Hive doesn't mean you would host it yourself. The only difference in wording here is that the private shards are a shard of the hive. A Private Server would be something you'd be hosting yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thznutz 112 Posted December 4, 2014 A Private Hive doesn't mean you would host it yourself. The only difference in wording here is that the private shards are a shard of the hive. A Private Server would be something you'd be hosting yourself.you will have to excuse my ignorance, as "private hive" for a couple of years now has predominately meant a server that was hosted by individuals in the community, thousands of people hosting their own private hive, on their own hardware, their own bandwidth (whether it was a good thing or not in some cases). it was my understanding that common term would carry over, if nothing else to avoid confusion. my mistake. i look forward to "private servers" then.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted December 4, 2014 you will have to excuse my ignorance, as "private hive" for a couple of years now has predominately meant a server that was hosted by individuals in the community, thousands of people hosting their own private hive, on their own hardware, their own bandwidth (whether it was a good thing or not in some cases). it was my understanding that common term would carry over, if nothing else to avoid confusion. my mistake. i look forward to "private servers" then.... A "Hive" is nothing but the Database connected to that server and thus you will understand what I am trying to say here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thznutz 112 Posted December 4, 2014 A "Hive" is nothing but the Database connected to that server and thus you will understand what I am trying to say here.i am aware of what the "hive" part of the term "private hive" means....this conversation reminds me of that hilarious dead horse mem you're right, i'm wrong...looking forward to the server files being released then... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlcApwn (DayZ) 28 Posted June 1, 2015 The files will be released at a later stage of the development, due to security reasons. sorry to dig this thread up again, but is this still valid? hicks stated the opposite on twitter. i'd be extremly pissed if the server files will not be released after you advertised it clearly. private servers are the only reason i bought dayz, i got my own server and i do not intend to play on the official hive. i'd rather have my money back before i pay a GSP while my own server is idle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted June 1, 2015 I can't even see what he's replying to. Tweet seems to have been deleted by now. But "Negative." doesn't really mean anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlcApwn (DayZ) 28 Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) I can't even see what he's replying to. Tweet seems to have been deleted by now. But "Negative." doesn't really mean anything. the question was "would it be possible in the future to have the server files publicly available so anyone can create a private shard server?". anyhow, can you confirm we will get private servers in the more or less near future? (heard rumors about beta release, but a confirmation that its on the roadmap would be great) Edited June 1, 2015 by AlcApwn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted June 1, 2015 the question was "would it be possible in the future to have the server files publicly available so anyone can create a private shard server?".anyhow, can you confirm we will get private servers in the more or less near future? (heard rumors about beta release, but a confirmation that its on the roadmap would be great) I can't confirm anything, because I am not a Developer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlcApwn (DayZ) 28 Posted June 1, 2015 I can't confirm anything, because I am not a Developer. could you forward this question, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kichilron 8550 Posted June 1, 2015 could you forward this question, then? You can do that yourself. That's why there's such a thing as the "Developer Discussion"-section... http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/forum/134-developer-discussion-status-reports/http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/forum/148-service/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites