respawn broken

[GunnyITA 107]

I'm not here to talk about the hacker that killed me this evening, by an existing hack since 3 patches

 

and i'm not even here to discuss about those 2 times this evening i'm dead by bugged floors

 

and i'm neither here to say that i'm blocked on a rock, I can't move till i die by starving.

 

 

 

but i'm here to say that from 3 different servers i'm dead around 20 times and spawned always in the same locations.

Only when the cheater killed me i spawned on Novodimitrosk

 

But since then, I spawned nearby Cherno, Cherno, Elektro, near Kamishovo, kamishovo, Solnichky, Nizohie, Berezino.....

 

No Svetlo, no Novo or Chernaya Polana

 

 

It's 1 hour and half i'm doing this, trying to get a different spawn! Are spawns broken?

 

Then someone can refund me the electricity spend till now?

 

 

What a terrible, horrible evening

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[Maia (DayZ) 93]

You probably could have ran there quicker than that. 

[GunnyITA 107]

You probably could have ran there quicker than that. 

 

 

sure but it's also the only way to test this things out.

 

It does not completely have any sense to have 2-3 spawn out of Cherno, then 1-2 inside....as same for the other towns!

It must be implemented a randomize system that decide for you where to spawn as "town" and then it randomize the "location" ....if it's ALL RANDOM and most of the spawn are middle to south, then you'll never spawn north.

 

Example: i'm on a team, i Die and i want to reach my teammates on north....for sure before being close to the spawn you might waste time on looking for a better respawn and then have a short walk....

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[nettles 396]

I'm not here to talk about the hacker that killed me this evening, by an existing hack since 3 patches

 

and i'm not even here to discuss about those 2 times this evening i'm dead by bugged floors.

 

it's a good thing you're not here to talk about those things, because likely your topic would be locked.

 

 

 

It's 1 hour and half i'm doing this, trying to get a different spawn! Are spawns broken?

 

May I suggest that instead of trying to take advantage of the respawn system, you instead play the game as a survival simulation as it is intended?

[Geckofrog7 1168]

I spawned in Novo the last 8 times, for the record. :P

In any case, I recommend you stop wasting your time trying to spawn where you want, and take the 10 minutes to just run there.

Edited November 8, 2014 by Geckofrog7

[ChainReactor 922]

I spawned in Novo the last 8 times, for the record. :P

 

 

Yeah because it's random, just as the OP suggested. Random systems however hold the chance that you simply have bad luck sometimes.

 

And i too would not have wasted 1,5 hours gaming time for 20 suicides.

[GunnyITA 107]

it's a good thing you're not here to talk about those things, because likely your topic would be locked.

 

 

 

May I suggest that instead of trying to take advantage of the respawn system, you instead play the game as a survival simulation as it is intended?

 

 

I wish to.....but i remember that KILLING FLOOR was the name of a game, not a sci-fiction Ridley Scott movie :-/

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[GunnyITA 107]

MIRACLE! I spawned on khelm....it's 2 patch and around 30-40 deaths i don't spawn on Khelm!

 

God bless the ranzomization!

[Evil Minion 943]

What a terrible, horrible evening

And thats terrible!

 

Really if I understand correctly you are suiciding to abuse the short respawn time as a means to teleport around the map and now you cry on the forums because it didn't spawn you where you wanted to be? And tomorrow you will be here crying about having hopped between 50 servers without finding an AKM with drum magazine?

Edited November 8, 2014 by Evil Minion

[GunnyITA 107]

And thats terrible!

 

Really if I understand correctly you are suiciding to abuse the short respawn time as a means to teleport around the map and now you cry on the forums because it didn't spawn you where you wanted to be? And tomorrow you will be here crying about having hopped between 50 servers without finding an AKM with drum magazine?

 

 

Hold your breath a sec, first of all i'm one of those guys that absolutely want to add a login sound to prevent server hoppers on the game. Here i'm discussing about if spawn works properly, it is randomized then  i can't spawn on same places dozens of times. Understand? Don't to argue that black is white

 

Then instead of point me the finger, you should try to have some game session on Factory between Nizohie and Solnitchy and you will realize how many people doing mass suicides, there was a time i counted 20 sucides on half an hour.

 

Game can't force players to play where you want if a group is elsewhere!

What do i do then? Stand alone because i'm far away? don't give me a moral lesson about what's good and what's not. I bet my mom if you are on group, then  you will spawn as close possible to it. 8 out 10 videos on youtube doing this, so moral lesson are only for real life, not for gamers, in particular dayz...where i saw 4 people cloning stuff ON LIVE through a window in a sniping session, the morality of this game is beyond the gates of a graveyard.

It's not possible to force players to do what do they dislike, otherwise i quit and go play something else when I die.

 

Things must be done are randomize the spawn through: TOWNS and LOCATION! The system decide for you where to spawn as town and then the location....not all randomized! because the spawn to Mid to South are even more than the others to North! .....And if you kill a guy on North: Merry Chrismas you gonna meet someone else again!

 

I'm dead because of bugged floors 2 consecutive times and i want to team up back again... morality elsewhere please. Morality for cheaters, morality for cloners, morality for server hoppers...not for this shit.

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[TheFarm 158]

My advice is to delete dayz

[svisketyggeren 662]

My advice is to delete dayz

 

So ur advice is that we all delete dayz?

[nettles 396]

So ur advice is that we all delete dayz?

 

Just the ones exploiting placeholder mechanics, bugs, hacks, glitches, and otherwise playing this game as it was not intended to be played, I assume.

[TheFarm 158]

Just the ones exploiting placeholder mechanics, bugs, hacks, glitches, and otherwise playing this game as it was not intended to be played, I assume.

It was more joke than anything really, although the type of player OP is defending/claiming not to be, really has no place in online games at all imo.

If someone asked me to kill him so he could get a respawn to be with his friends, guaranteed I would kneecap, bandage and feed him.

[GunnyITA 107]

Just the ones exploiting placeholder mechanics, bugs, hacks, glitches, and otherwise playing this game as it was not intended to be played, I assume.

 

 

So if on an evening I'm dieing 1 time by a cheater and 2 because a floor bug, your molarity is furthermore to pick off my pants ant put at 90' degrees? Just tell me, over 2 hours of gaming wasted , and furthermore you want me to play honestly! 

Ok I don't have a life, i pick them off and blast my ass, i'm at  90' for you and we come close to an intimate friendship. 

What the hell are you serious? Isn't enough what this game "still on ALFA" throw to you? Do I have to waste even more time you said? Because everyone is doing? ahahah hilarious, like everyone here is a saint. fly down please, this game is the last place for drama and theathre show explaining the life morality.

 

I'm repeating that i'm one of those want login sound, stop cheating and stop cloning.

And if we want to talk about balancing: I do agree with you about the TIMING SPAWN, should be increased during login and also during death, so someone can get outside taking a smoke or else....but at least make the SPAWNING LOCATION properly work.

 

Example: Imagine that my team is on Cherno.....and as happened i spawn 5 consecutive times on Cherno and nearby. I'm even more a manace as a Bambi than an equiped player, as i can spot others and nothing to lose.

So what's that guy? One that glitching or a randomed giustified guy?

Don't to argue that black is white

 

Listen, just be grateful i can't use my own words and what i would really like to say, because i feel here some users are taken on antipathy and dislike. So i just stop here.

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[kichilron 8550]

 Listen, just be grateful i can't use my own words and what i would really like to say, because i feel here some users are taken on antipathy and dislike. So i just stop here.

You should tell yourself that more often. I am not surprised that some users reacted the way they did in your topic, as everything you post has an aggressive tone to it. It's sometimes better to calm down before posting, as otherwise there isn't much help going to come your way.

As far as the spawning goes:

I still don't understand what your problem is? You spawned in different places after all, from everything I can read out of this, not always in the exact same place.

"Random" also means that a "random event" can take place multiples times in a row. Statistics even tells us that you can throw the dice 100 times in a row and always get a "6". This is what random means. It is unlikely, but not impossible and nothing / no one can tell a true random system what to do.

[GunnyITA 107]

You should tell yourself that more often. I am not surprised that some users reacted the way they did in your topic, as everything you post has an aggressive tone to it. It's sometimes better to calm down before posting, as otherwise there isn't much help going to come your way.

As far as the spawning goes:

I still don't understand what your problem is? You spawned in different places after all, from everything I can read out of this, not always in the exact same place.

"Random" also means that a "random event" can take place multiples times in a row. Statistics even tells us that you can throw the dice 100 times in a row and always get a "6". This is what random means. It is unlikely, but not impossible and nothing / no one can tell a true random system what to do.

 

 

Ok, your statement is perfectly correct

 

But a guy can't came over here and tell me: hey you are glitching! ...Then what we are going to say about those are spawning several times in the same place o nearby to their team? The people think about this before posting or do i am the only stupid to spawn far away after what happened to me?

I should stop to think  a while before posting, but also others should. Everyone wants to shoot to the Red Cross...

 

I'd like to see 2 kinds of randomness, the first by "TOWN" the second by "POSITION": the system will decide to spawn you in what town first and then the position. And if we want to be even more fair as someone said above, increasing the TIMING between SPAWNING and death. But not to see people costantly spawn in the same place even 5 consecutive times.

 

Am i correct?

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[gibonez 3633]

Hopefully it just means the dev team is testing new methods of stopping people from exploiting the respawn system.

What they really need is a tracker that limits how many lived your account has per hour.

Some small number such as 3 where if you die more than those times in an hour you have to wait until the hour is complete.

This would not only stop people from abusing the spawn system to get a favorable spawn but would put a lot less stress on the dev servers that control characters and could save tons of bandwidth that could potentially be out right back into improving the playing players experience.

[GunnyITA 107]

Hopefully it just means the dev team is testing new methods of stopping people from exploiting the respawn system.

What they really need is a tracker that limits how many lived your account has per hour.

Some small number such as 3 where if you die more than those times in an hour you have to wait until the hour is complete.

This would not only stop people from abusing the spawn system to get a favorable spawn but would put a lot less stress on the dev servers that control characters and could save tons of bandwidth that could potentially be out right back into improving the playing players experience.

 

 

 

I partially agree with you, but i think a max time of 5 mins is enough.....consider that a body disapper after 10 mins, so 5 mins to spawn and minimum other 5 to walk means you won't be never in time to recover things from your body, unsless someone empty it out.

 

A guy above said to be spawned 8 consecutive times on Novo. Never happened before! So i think randomization should be reworked through TOWN and LOCATION.....for me: being spawned nearby CHERNO or CHERNO it's the same, it's always Cherno! Need to be spawned somewhere else and off course with a decent time, like 5 max 8 mins!

Edited November 8, 2014 by GunnyITA

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

I partially agree with you, but i think a max time of 5 mins is enough.....consider that a body disapper after 10 mins, so 5 mins to spawn and minimum other 5 to walk means you won't be never in time to recover things from your body, unsless someone empty it out.

 

A guy above said to be spawned 8 consecutive times on Novo. Never happened before! So i think randomization should be reworked through TOWN and LOCATION.....for me: being spawned nearby CHERNO or CHERNO it's the same, it's always Cherno! Need to be spawned somewhere else and off course with a decent time, like 5 max 8 mins!

 

They haven't worked out the kinks with dead bodies and items on them.  However, in .5, all servers are persistent unless turned off so what you can extrapolate from this is that if you die in Novo, your team should do a quick sweep, then put everything you have on the ground and hold down the location.  Now that your items are on the ground they won't dissapear.  And you can choose either to play the random spawn game that you like to so much and try to get close or just spawn and run since your items are persistent now that they are off of your body.  

 

They also haven't worked out item degradation in this stable iteration yet, so you have no fear of it ever despawning until they fix that.

 

It's been explained to you several times already, the spawning locations are random.  What you want them to do is alter the algorithm to allow a higher chance at a Novo spawn.  How is that fair to someone who is the same exact person as you, but prefers Cherno instead?

 

Also, I thought you were going to stop?

[gibonez 3633]

I partially agree with you, but i think a max time of 5 mins is enough.....consider that a body disapper after 10 mins, so 5 mins to spawn and minimum other 5 to walk means you won't be never in time to recover things from your body, unsless someone empty it out.

A guy above said to be spawned 8 consecutive times on Novo. Never happened before! So i think randomization should be reworked through TOWN and LOCATION.....for me: being spawned nearby CHERNO or CHERNO it's the same, it's always Cherno! Need to be spawned somewhere else and off course with a decent time, like 5 max 8 mins!

Getting your gear back after spawning is a tiny tiny part of abusing the respawn system.

The important thing about setting up a limited lives per hour system is the way it would lead to more fluid gameplay, how player distribution would be more random and the possible gameplay and lag improvements from people not slamming the servers with new characters.