I created a DayZ trading platform

[tills13 33]

This is a cool idea.  Nice work! 

 

Just some constructive criticism from my first look at the page: I had some trouble telling whether a trade in the initial window represented just a trade offer, or whether it was a list of all recent trades.  Also your search function is caps sensitive right now.

hmmm, ok. Yeah a lot of people are saying the UI needs a little work. I'll think about it and update it later.

 

It may be a good idea to categorize things. Such as

• Food
• Firearms
• Explosives
• Blades
• Tools
• Backpacks
• Clothing
• Misc.

Etc.

 

Just my input. Very good job nonetheless.  :)

Yeah I have item categories implemented, I just forgot to scrape the item category from DayZDB when I populated the list I have. 

 

Good idea, bad implementation. 

 

I went to the site, logged in through steam and saw the two items up for trade. Didn't see any way to proceed with a trade had I wanted one of the items. Good idea, hopefully the creator will work on the interface so it's less confusing and easier to operate.

I'm going to try to make it a little easier to understand without making it more cluttered. Thanks for the input. 

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

Amazing idea.  And great work so far.  I tried signing in but wasn't sure if I was signed in or not.  I couldn't see where I could "start" a trade to list.  Searching for items  was cool but couldn't seem to "find" the ACoG scope, maybe because I don't know how it's listed in your DB.

 

This will be a great addition to the community once it's polished.  Take your time man.

[tills13 33]

Amazing idea.  And great work so far.  I tried signing in but wasn't sure if I was signed in or not.  I couldn't see where I could "start" a trade to list.  Searching for items  was cool but couldn't seem to "find" the ACoG scope, maybe because I don't know how it's listed in your DB.

 

This will be a great addition to the community once it's polished.  Take your time man.

 

If you're signed in, you'll see your username at the top right instead of the "Sign in Through Steam" button. I've been having some issues with sign in, though, depending on if you've claimed a vanityURL with Steam or not. Should be good to go, now, though. 

 

As for the ACoG, it was a case of, well, cases. If you typed it like ACoG, it wouldn't have shown up because I was checking for an exact match to "ACOG" - that should be fixed, now. 

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

If you're signed in, you'll see your username at the top right instead of the "Sign in Through Steam" button. I've been having some issues with sign in, though, depending on if you've claimed a vanityURL with Steam or not. Should be good to go, now, though. 

 

As for the ACoG, it was a case of, well, cases. If you typed it like ACoG, it wouldn't have shown up because I was checking for an exact match to "ACOG" - that should be fixed, now. 

It was just the first thing that came to mind.  I will happily actively use this while you are developing.  

 

It's interesting to see how the economy will play itself out since there is no standard currency.  It will be actual bartering and value variance will be directly correlated to each individual's needs.  Can't wait for the robust version.

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

Posted some trades.  As you can see 2 different have's for the same need.

 

I don't want to completely break your idea, but maybe instead of having users list a whole trade, maybe split it into 2 columns.  Have/Want?  That way lets say I want an ammo box, and I have multiple offers.  I can just go into the "trade" listed -Have ammo box -  and submit my offers.  So effectively you jump on, check the have list and if you don't see what you want, post your item/s in the "want side".  Meanwhile also listing what you "have" to trade.  I dunno just spit balling for you.  It's your baby after all.

 

Edit:  This morning I woke up and realized that you made it so that users would post EVERYTHING they had for trade on one side, and EVERYTHING they wanted on another yes?  That way I don't have to list 3 individual trades for what I'm looking for?

Edited October 23, 2014 by Grundlesmuggler

[tills13 33]

Edit:  This morning I woke up and realized that you made it so that users would post EVERYTHING they had for trade on one side, and EVERYTHING they wanted on another yes?  That way I don't have to list 3 individual trades for what I'm looking for?

 

If you've got items x,y,z and are looking for items a and b, you'd post x,y,z > a,b with the expectation that someone would come along with a and b and you'd give them all three items. 

 

I realize that's not the best method. I'll probably end up changing offers slightly in the future - make it so you can offer item a and get only x, or something of that nature. 

 

Currently, though, I'm working on making it more intuitive. A lot of comments have been saying "I don't really understand what it's saying..." and I hope to change that. If anyone has any design suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Thanks for the input. 

[tills13 33]

I found some time today to work on the UI. I'm implementing a bunch of requested features. 

 

I've looked to tf2outpost for inspiration - i guess people find that layout more intuitive than my original, so why not, right? It's definitely not 100% right now, but it's getting to a point where I can push out a new version. Don't worry, no more profile clears - I promise (even if it would be an "authentic" DayZ experience).

 

Thoughts? Comments?

[SmashT 10907]

That looks pretty good, way more intuitive. As others have mentioned some sort of general location or nearest major city/town would be beneficial, if I'm at Baolta I probably wouldn't want to trek to NE airfield to trade. I'd also rename recent trades to maybe open trades or current offers or something also.

[evil koala 22]

It's so useful to have the internet access in the middle of nowhere during the zombie apocalypse so you can buy and sell your loot on Zbay. Now we just need someone to start ZedEx to take care of shipping.

[tills13 33]

It's so useful to have the internet access in the middle of nowhere during the zombie apocalypse so you can buy and sell your loot on Zbay. Now we just need someone to start ZedEx to take care of shipping.

 

 haha well thank God videogames aren't real so things like this can exist. 

 

ZedEx, good idea

[skoms 86]

I like this concept. When the game is stable enough that you actually can store items in your tent without being afraid to loose everyting due to server issues, then this will be a very useful and fun add on to the game. Good work.

[umberfive 89]

Looks good, but how can I see if the item(s) is/are for trade on 3rd or 1st person only?

[LucidHills 94]

Why is it limited to 5 items in a trade? 

[brumey 116]

nice. i made a fortune in steam with teamfortress2 trades! in fact i own 111 games of which i only purchased tf2, stalker and halflife2...

your sites reminds me of sites liek tf2outpost and backpack.tf ... but as Long as you cant trade dayz items via steam i dont see a use for your site ?!?! are we supposed to meet up on any Server when wanting to make a atrade ?

cheers

[tills13 33]

nice. i made a fortune in steam with teamfortress2 trades! in fact i own 111 games of which i only purchased tf2, stalker and halflife2...

your sites reminds me of sites liek tf2outpost and backpack.tf ... but as Long as you cant trade dayz items via steam i dont see a use for your site ?!?! are we supposed to meet up on any Server when wanting to make a atrade ?

cheers

 

TF2 trading site are able to do that because items are tied to your Steam account. Unfortunately, DayZ does not operate that way, items are tied to your character on hive servers - which there's no data API for (and likely will never be).

 

So yes, to answer your question, you're supposed to meet up and exchange items. 

[tills13 33]

Why is it limited to 5 items in a trade? 

 

The t2.micro virtual server I'm using on Amazon Web Services has limited storage space... it's all I can afford. It's just an artificial limit I placed on how many items you could trade - I assumed that would be enough to cover most cases.

[tills13 33]

Looks good, but how can I see if the item(s) is/are for trade on 3rd or 1st person only?

 

Unless I'm mistaken, you can bring items between servers so this shouldn't matter too much... should it?

[LucidHills 94]

Unless I'm mistaken, you can bring items between servers so this shouldn't matter too much... should it?

 

It matters. Your character on 1st person only and 3rd person servers are different. the character or it's items can't be transferred between them. It's the same for stable/experimental. 

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

Good work man.  It does look great with the changes; however, there is already a large large large trade thread in which people have been conducting trades with a different type of set up.  It's pretty much the same system that you use, but they are able to list everything they have and everything they want because it's a forum thread.  Maybe you can combine your system with the way that people have been doing it on the forums for more traction.  

 

I feel like if you can bridge the gap between the two the community would standardize your platform.

[LucidHills 94]

I don't want to completely break your idea, but maybe instead of having users list a whole trade, maybe split it into 2 columns.  Have/Want?  That way lets say I want an ammo box, and I have multiple offers.  I can just go into the "trade" listed -Have ammo box -  and submit my offers.  So effectively you jump on, check the have list and if you don't see what you want, post your item/s in the "want side".  Meanwhile also listing what you "have" to trade.  I dunno just spit balling for you.  It's your baby after all.

 

I really support this "Have" and "Want" idea. That way trades can be more dynamic. You show what you have to offer, for other players to search through, and you have your want list to show what they have to trade you for some of your stuff.

Ideally, this could become automated. When some of your items in your have/want match up with another player, you both receive an notification with links to start communication.

Even if we never get to that stage, I really think the terminology Have/Want would be the best choice.

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Feedback I support or suggest:

• Want / Have terminology as stated above.
• General location of your character in game.
• "better than [condition level]" as a wanted item condition option.
• "Mixed condition" is also needed for multiples of items. 
• No item limit. People tend to have more than 5 things they have and would be willing to trade. (example)
• 1pp / 3pp as separate listings as they can not interact. 
• region / time-zone of the user.

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I also have some design suggestions, but I'll make those in another post later on. 

 

You have done some really great work with all this!

Edited November 6, 2014 by LucidHills

[tills13 33]

It matters. Your character on 1st person only and 3rd person servers are different. the character or it's items can't be transferred between them. It's the same for stable/experimental. 

I didn't know that, thanks. I'll keep that in mind and implement it in a future version.

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

I really support this "Have" and "Want" idea. That way trades can be more dynamic. You show what you have to offer, for other players to search through, and you have your want list to show what they have to trade you for some of your stuff.

Ideally, this could become automated. When some of your items in your have/want match up with another player, you both receive an notification with links to start communication.

Even if we never get to that stage, I really think the terminology Have/Want would be the best choice.

___________________________

 

Feedback I support or suggest:

• Want / Have terminology as stated above.
• General location of your character in game.
• "better than [condition level]" as a wanted item condition option.
• "Mixed condition" is also needed for multiples of items. 
• No item limit. People tend to have more than 5 things they have and would be willing to trade. (example)
• 1pp / 3pp as separate listings as they can not interact. 
• region / time-zone of the user.

___________________________

 

I also have some design suggestions, but I'll make those in another post later on. 

 

You have done some really great work with all this!

 

 

I posted in the other thread he created about maybe re-thinking some things.  There is already a system in place that is flourishing here on the forums in the "trading post" thread.  I love the trading platform site idea but I think it wont gain traction against this forum thread.  However, if he could bridge the gap between the two then maybe people will use his platform.

[tills13 33]

Good work man.  It does look great with the changes; however, there is already a large large large trade thread in which people have been conducting trades with a different type of set up.  It's pretty much the same system that you use, but they are able to list everything they have and everything they want because it's a forum thread.  Maybe you can combine your system with the way that people have been doing it on the forums for more traction.  

 

I feel like if you can bridge the gap between the two the community would standardize your platform.

 

I don't really like that way. Just a long list of what you have doesn't really make for a good user experience, in my opinion. too much clutter.

 

Feedback I support or suggest:

• Want / Have terminology as stated above.
• General location of your character in game.
• "better than [condition level]" as a wanted item condition option.
• "Mixed condition" is also needed for multiples of items. 
• No item limit. People tend to have more than 5 things they have and would be willing to trade. (example)
• 1pp / 3pp as separate listings as they can not interact. 
• region / time-zone of the user.

 

• location/region/1pp/3pp: that's on my TODO
• "better than" - that's how it is currently. If you select "Damaged" in the "want" column, it's to be read as "Damaged or better"
• There's already an "any" condition - for when you don't care about the condition
• I'm not sure what you mean by mixed? You list each attachment on an item as a separate item in the trade
• I don't really want to lift the 5 item limit because then people will use it as a "here are all my items" vs "here's all the items I want" - which I don't really want to get into

Edited November 6, 2014 by tullsy

[Grundlesmuggler 41]

 

I don't really like that way. Just a long list of what you have doesn't really make for a good user experience, in my opinion. too much clutter.

 

 

• location/region/1pp/3pp: that's on my TODO
• "better than" - that's how it is currently. If you select "Damaged" in the "want" column, it's to be read as "Damaged or better"
• There's already an "any" condition - for when you don't care about the condition
• I'm not sure what you mean by mixed? You list each attachment on an item as a separate item in the trade
• I don't really want to lift the 5 item limit because then people will use it as a "here are all my items" vs "here's all the items I want" - which I don't really want to get into

 

 

 

Understood man.  I want to really stress how much I like your idea.  I think you should look at the trading post though.  The community has been trading a certain way for months.  As much as I like, support, and can provide feedback to your system I don't see it replacing the current system unless it offers something completely different or makes the current one more convenient to use.  The dayz forum is pretty clunky so hats off to you if you can make it work the way you want now man.  I'll use it as long as other people will, I just haven't had much luck trading on your site.

 

I don't mean to downplay or discredit the work you've done, I probably like it the most out of anyone who has seen it, I'm just offering a realistic user perspective to you.  Hopefully you take that the right way.

[LucidHills 94]

I also have some design suggestions, but I'll make those in another post later on. 

 

So while waiting for my DayZ to update, I made this alternate layout of users trades.

 

 

Not saying mine is better, just offering an alternate. What do you guys think?

it's just a rough idea of how I think it would look best. Obviously this is just for the bit in the middle of the screen.

 

 

I don't really like that way. Just a long list of what you have doesn't really make for a good user experience, in my opinion. too much clutter.

 

 

• location/region/1pp/3pp: that's on my TODO
• "better than" - that's how it is currently. If you select "Damaged" in the "want" column, it's to be read as "Damaged or better"
• There's already an "any" condition - for when you don't care about the condition
• I'm not sure what you mean by mixed? You list each attachment on an item as a separate item in the trade
• I don't really want to lift the 5 item limit because then people will use it as a "here are all my items" vs "here's all the items I want" - which I don't really want to get into

 

 

A list is ok and isn't clutter if it's done right. :) I think it's the best way to trade. You can pick what you want to trade from what other other person has rather than rigid offers.

 

Mixed for when I have more than one of the same item but they have different conditions.

 

as for lifting the limit, I think trading is better done that way like I said above.