I wanna eat u

[svisketyggeren 662]

If I may ask, what exactly is the other "brutal and violent" gameplay? Day Z standalone isn't bloody, the weapons don't tear you into pieces, you can't dismember people, all the "torture" is really quite tame, and the environment is quite clean, and to be honest, rather pretty at times. The game isn't particularly bleak.

 

In fact, I would say Day Z is quite tame. It was a military simulator first, and a "game" second.

 

Cannibalism could be made in the same way...tame as u call it. U could just make the carcass dissapear and have a text saying u ate some meat.

 

The fact that Dayz atm atleast...portrays zombies eating humans, humans killing humans in a non explicit way, dosent mean that cannibalism isnt on the same level of violence as those acts. U could just make the violent acts we already have very explicit and make cannibalism as tame as u want.

 

Its kinda weird to say zombies eating humans is less violent than humans eating humans...they are on the same level of violence.

Edited October 9, 2014 by svisketyggeren

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

I feel like this is more of a suggestion thread but I'll post anyways.  Been discussed to whits end numerous times on here, some modception concepts had it and I did not mind it one bit.  I remember when 2017 first came out I "accidently" shot my mate only to later feed him, well himself.  He raged and did not log back in for 4 days it was a great time.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Cannibalism could be made in the same way...tame as u call it. U could just make the carcass dissapear and have a text saying u ate some meat.

 

The fact that Dayz atm atleast...portrays zombies eating humans, humans killing humans in a non explicit way, dosent mean that cannibalism isnt on the same level of violence as those acts. U could just make the violent acts we already have very explicit and make cannibalism as tame as u want.

 

Its kinda weird to say zombies eating humans is less violent than humans eating humans...they are on the same level of violence.

You neatly avoided my question, there. What exactly is the "brutal and violent" gameplay in Day Z?

 

And, I am 99.9% certain that the "zombies" don't actually eat dead players. Firstly, they aren't "zombies", and secondly, all they do is smack you around.

[PongoZ 127]

Doesn't take long for people to type what they really want, its not about survival at all, so why start the thread with a lie trying to justify it that way.

 

They should leave stuff like this for mods to make so the sick can titillate them selves without impacting the balanced.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Don't they got no frogs in Cherno ?

I think there should be frogs,,,and snails too.

Eating people is against the law you know, you'd better watch out for the Eating People Police, they'd lock you away in the jail that's being built.

In all seriousness, frog legs are a pretty tasty food for survival; easy to catch (blind em with a flashlight, bash em with a stick), and you can get a lot of them quickly. The only real issue with them is that you usually have to get wet in order to catch the frogs....

[svisketyggeren 662]

You neatly avoided my question, there. What exactly is the "brutal and violent" gameplay in Day Z?

 

And, I am 99.9% certain that the "zombies" don't actually eat dead players. Firstly, they aren't "zombies", and secondly, all they do is smack you around.

 

I already told u...humans killing humans and zombies eating humans. Whether the zombies are eating us not is not the point either. The point was that cannibalism is at the same level of violence as killing humans with a gun or a zombie killing a human.

U are comparing cannibalism as a gamemechanic to the other gamemechanics we have in the game and telling me cannibalism is more violent...again just silly rhetoric from u. The gamemechanic for cannibalism in dayz dosent exist now....u cant compare them in any way.

 

The acts of violence we already do in dayz, killing ppl etc are equally violent as cannibalism would be.

 

Most of ur post here up until now is just nitpicking using silly rhetoric, and im not gonna bother more with u if u continue it.

[Whyherro123 2283]

I already told u...humans killing humans and zombies eating humans. Whether the zombies are eating us not is not the point either. The point was that cannibalism is at the same level of violence as killing humans with a gun or a zombie killing a human.

U are comparing cannibalism as a gamemechanic to the other gamemechanics we have in the game and telling me cannibalism is more violent...again just silly rhetoric from u. The gamemechanic for cannibalism in dayz dosent exist now....u cant compare them in any way.

 

The acts of violence we already do in dayz, killing ppl etc are equally violent as cannibalism would be.

 

Most of ur post here up until now is just nitpicking using silly rhetoric, and im not gonna bother more with u if u continue it.

Again, you avoided the question, and are now refusing to answer at all. I am arguing semantics because that is what you brought up in the post I quoted.

 

In-game, shooting someone with a gun is currently not very brutal and/or particularly violent. They groan, (usually) fall unconscious, and there is an abstract blood squirt. Relatively clean, by the standards of other, equally survival-based games. This, compared to a mechanic where you would hunt down people and butcher them for meat. Which is more brutal, at least in spirit: relatively-bloodless warfare, or cannibalism?

 

You say that it can be abstracted, but I counter with ,"What would be the point?". You say you want cannibalism because Day Z is a horror game. Having a mechanic abstracted in a horror game kind of detracts from the impact. If we are going to have cannibalism, have it use the same animations as the animal-skinning thing.

[over9000nukez 199]

The only benefit i see from this is for RP, killing someone for their meat and feeding it to unsuspecting people secretly, or having hostages and throwing a chunk of human meat at them and saying " This will be you if you dont listen to us!"

 

Only benefit - RP

 

And that includes eating a person in order to survive.

 

ALSO a fact to bring up, the zombies arent dead, they are infected humans, if we become cannibals, we are just as soon as the infect.

 

I can imagine telling ti a guy : I can offer you the chance to survive, but all you have to do is feed.

 

My final thoughts : add cannibalism , as long as their is a negative to doing so, its not just reward, you will be sick(shivers), or get Kuru.

 

Kuru causes physiological as well as neurological effects that ultimately lead to death. It was endemic among the Fore tribe of Papua New Guinea and was confined to the Fore population and those nearby populations with whom they intermarried. It is characterized by truncal ataxia, preceded by headaches, joint pains and shaking of the limbs. Trembling is present in almost all patients with transmissible spongiform encephalopathy; Kuru is also known as "shiver"

 

not being able to hold your gun correctly (shivers), and generally being sick.

Edited October 9, 2014 by over9000nukez

[svisketyggeren 662]

Again, you avoided the question, and are now refusing to answer at all. I am arguing semantics because that is what you brought up in the post I quoted.

 

In-game, shooting someone with a gun is currently not very brutal and/or particularly violent. They groan, (usually) fall unconscious, and there is an abstract blood squirt. Relatively clean, by the standards of other, equally survival-based games. This, compared to a mechanic where you would hunt down people and butcher them for meat. Which is more brutal, at least in spirit: relatively-bloodless warfare, or cannibalism?

 

You say that it can be abstracted, but I counter with ,"What would be the point?". You say you want cannibalism because Day Z is a horror game. Having a mechanic abstracted in a horror game kind of detracts from the impact. If we are going to have cannibalism, have it use the same animations as the animal-skinning thing.

 

U are still basing ur argument on cannibalism as a gamemechanic in dayz that dosent even exist...u are comparing the existing gamemechanic...shooting ppl to cannnibalism which dosent exist in dayz. Silly

[Whyherro123 2283]

U are still basing ur argument on cannibalism as a gamemechanic in dayz that dosent even exist...u are comparing the existing gamemechanic...shooting ppl to cannnibalism which dosent exist in dayz. Silly

You: Describes game mechanic not currently in game, makes (absurd and incorrect) claims about "brutality"

Me: Debunks thoughts about realism, asks for clarification about claims

You: NOOOOOOOO CAN'T TALK ABOUT GAME MECHANICS NOT IN GAME, CAN'T COMPARE GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY URRRRRRR DUMB

 

This thread in a nutshell. Learn to debate.

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

Inception., you look tasty bro. Mmmm... Fresh grilled Inception....

Edited October 10, 2014 by Death By Crowbar

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

Inception, you look tasty bro. Mmmm... Fresh grilled Inception...

 

You wouldn't mind sharing him, would ya'? We'd have to break his legs so he doesn't run. Best to use a Skoda, if y'know what I mean ;)

[t1337dude 101]

I'd like to have the option to cannibalize people. If I have no other options and there's a fresh corpse in front of me, I can't think of a single good reason why it couldn't be implemented. I'd say there are already more superfluous features already in the game, this one wouldn't hurt and you have to admit the idea is kind of fun. 

 

People need to remember that in the future of DayZ, there will likely be more maps and survival scenarios to come where food could be potentially be scarce enough that cannibalism is warranted.

Edited October 9, 2014 by t1337Dude

[ddmankiller 14]

We should be able to eat the players we kill...seriously.

 

Infact eating players, fishing and hunting animals should be 60% of the available food in the game. 30% should be pickables...and 10% should be cans of beans....or something like that.

 

Or maybe 5% canfood, 65% player, animal and fish...

 

 

Whoah, Calm down there Jeffrey Dahmer

[mareak 50]

Cannibalism could be made in the same way...tame as u call it. U could just make the carcass dissapear and have a text saying u ate some meat.

 

The fact that Dayz atm atleast...portrays zombies eating humans, humans killing humans in a non explicit way, dosent mean that cannibalism isnt on the same level of violence as those acts. U could just make the violent acts we already have very explicit and make cannibalism as tame as u want.

 

Its kinda weird to say zombies eating humans is less violent than humans eating humans...they are on the same level of violence.

 

Been living in this part of the world, where cannabalism was a practise long time ago by the local indigenous people like Iban, Dayak (head hunters) etc. Its actually not a way of living. It is actually part of a complex ritual. You only eat a piece of the dead as so that the dead will not haunted you later. Its a local believe and it is very hard to explain. So as per your suggestion to eat human meat in terms of survival i think it is way too much. I rather scavenge fruits in the forest, fishing, trap wild animal, birds eggs. There a ton of food out there. Unless that character is really a loco, pyshopathic, a serial killer than anything could happen. As for my character, he oppose this idea/suggestion :)

 

Agreed. Hot food would also be a serious boon to survival: it is already hot,so it is easier to digest, it warms up your core (helps prevent hypothermia), and is a great morale booster.

 

What would put you in a better mood: a cold can of beans eaten on the side of the road, or a nice plate of hot beans, corn, and onions, some fresh ham, eggs, and a solid slug of vodka?

 

.....I'm hungry now, goddammit. And I want some Vodka!

 

That is right bro, hot food all the way!! we have potatoes, maybe can make some stew with that pristine pot I found in one of the abandoned house near Novy Sobor.

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

You wouldn't mind sharing him, would ya'? We'd have to break his legs so he doesn't run. Best to use a Skoda, if y'know what I mean ;)

I would share some fresh Inception. with you bro! We'd have to decide whether to do it up sushi style or cook it well. I don't know how dirty the bro is, we'd have to give him a thorough inspection first...

[svisketyggeren 662]

You: Describes game mechanic not currently in game, makes (absurd and incorrect) claims about "brutality"

Me: Debunks thoughts about realism, asks for clarification about claims

You: NOOOOOOOO CAN'T TALK ABOUT GAME MECHANICS NOT IN GAME, CAN'T COMPARE GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY URRRRRRR DUMB

 

This thread in a nutshell. Learn to debate.

LOL I have consistently shown that all ur arguments against cannibalism are invalid and just silly rhetoric...

 

U even changed ur mind about cannibalism after a while. So yea I get that u wanna nutpick everything I say cos ur butthurt for losing the orginal discussion.

 

Learn to debate urself lol

Edited October 10, 2014 by svisketyggeren

[svisketyggeren 662]

Been living in this part of the world, where cannabalism was a practise long time ago by the local indigenous people like Iban, Dayak (head hunters) etc. Its actually not a way of living. It is actually part of a complex ritual. You only eat a piece of the dead as so that the dead will not haunted you later. Its a local believe and it is very hard to explain. So as per your suggestion to eat human meat in terms of survival i think it is way too much. I rather scavenge fruits in the forest, fishing, trap wild animal, birds eggs. There a ton of food out there. Unless that character is really a loco, pyshopathic, a serial killer than anything could happen. As for my character, he oppose this idea/suggestion :)

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Andes_flight_disaster

 

Its the article from a planecrash that happend in the Andes mountains in 1972. The ppl had to eat the dead passangers to survive. So cannibalism as a last resort happends and will happend under the right circumstances.

Most of u are probaly to young to remember it, but the story was quite famous because of the extreme situation the passangers had to deal with.

Edited October 10, 2014 by svisketyggeren

[Whyherro123 2283]

LOL I have consistently shown that all ur arguments against cannibalism are invalid and just silly rhetoric...

 

U even changed ur mind about cannibalism after a while. So yea I get that u wanna nutpick everything I say cos ur butthurt for losing the orginal discussion.

 

Learn to debate urself lol

Sure thing, boyo. Whatever makes you happy....

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

I would share some fresh Inception. with you bro! We'd have to decide whether to do it up sushi style or cook it well. I don't know how dirty the bro is, we'd have to give him a thorough inspection first...

 

We should serve him with a side of some steaming Steak & Potatoes

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

We should serve him with a side of some steaming Steak & Potatoes

That sounds awesome! Now you're talking with your aaaabdominals!

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

Death By Crowbar, on 10 Oct 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

 

I love you.

[barnabus 1708]

Ok, another one for the ignore list.

[freethink 984]

I'd love if there was some clan in cannibalism just for huntings sake.  

[MountGreen 20]

Okay well I'm not totally on board but there's potential here.

 

Suppose there was a mechanic made where the more people you eat the more you HAVE to rely on cannibalism to survive? Perhaps other food sources become less profitable to you or suddenly you can only eat meat, with the result that if you eat say, 3 players, you become almost totally dependent on human meat to survive.

 

Also, cannibalism should cause you to have a skin change once you have eaten enough people. You should look like some feral animal (keeping in the theme of insanity) so that other players can identify you as a cannibalistic psyhco, increasing fear and distrust and also allowing some RP.