Hoods UP(Option)

[nokyookami 63]

Anyone Else Want the Ability For Hoods up on RainCoats/GorkaJacket/Hoodies/Downcoats ^_^

Always Wanted my Pristine Raincoat or Gorka To Keep Me Dry
...and Maybe Hoods Are Just Stylish

Was thinking Maybe Could Toggle Like the Bipod {Hood Up} {Hood Down}

What you Guys think :D

Edited October 10, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[Mos1ey 6301]

Rocket said shortly after release that hoods wouldn't happen due to problems with players heads/hats/etc clipping through the hood, unfortunately.

[nokyookami 63]

Rocket said shortly after release that hoods wouldn't happen due to problems with players heads/hats/etc clipping through the hood, unfortunately.

Ah I See :( My Ideal Character Was Already KOS Before Even Born

But Maybe Once Modding Support is Added if thats a Real thing :/ Realy Want to Wear a Hood

Just Figured Was Oversight/Lack of Wanting to Make a Second Model xD 

Heads Seem Like Wouldn't Clip to Horrible i mean We Have Balaclava And Beanies Both Realy Tight on the Head

Maybe One Day (i can Dream)

Edited October 4, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[Mos1ey 6301]

Ah I See :( My Ideal Character Already KOS Before Even Born

But Maybe Once Modding Support is Added if thats a Real thing :/ Realy Want to Wear a Hood

Just Figured Was Oversight/Lack of Wanting to Make a Second Model xD 

Heads Seem Like Wouldn't Clip to Horrible i mean We Have Balaclava And Beanies Both Realy Tight on the Head

Maybe One Day (i can Dream)

 

That's exactly why they don't cause clipping issues, they fit tightly to the head so it doesn't cause problems.

 

Apparently the head would clip through the hood as you turn your head and also the section where the hood joins the torso would cause problems.

[nokyookami 63]

That's exactly why they don't cause clipping issues, they fit tightly to the head so it doesn't cause problems.

Apparently the head would clip through the hood as you turn your head and also the section where the hood joins the torso would cause problems.

As a 3D modeler/figure creator i always run into clipping when things push limits on proximity

Things such as hood and or loose fitting stuff usualy can avoid clipping easily due to the distance between the outside mesh and the figure in general and items like the balaclava which go down to shoulders yet tight on the neck and head

Are the items usualy would have clipping issues

And a hood should work much in the same way that a sleeve does, it uses bones and bends with the figure

Also in alot of games Clothing/Hairstyles even customizable ones can be made without clipping even if goes past shoulders :/ for instance hoods in games like APB or Fable dont clip and move with head and both support customized features and Hairstyles still without clipping issues

Unless you try to do it to lazily like not rig the head on the hood or vise versa and don't rig the hood as part of the torso

But realy i guess its up to the team making the game

But honestly i feel that it is do-able

And has been done before in titles ^_^

[Cpanther 221]

Well... is a game out there in which you can use hoods all the time, and is automatic..it goes up or down depending if you going to kill someone or not....OH.. and you going to love this... the full game is about KoSing and nothing else.... what is the name ?...I think it is Assassin's Creed or something like that.

Edited October 2, 2014 by Cpanther

[Mos1ey 6301]

Well... is a game out there in which you can use hoods all the time, and is automatic..it goes up or down depending if you going to kill someone or not....OH.. and you going to love this... the full game is about KoSing and nothing else.... what is the name ?...I think it is Assassin's Creed or something like that.

 

I didn't realise that AC was running on RV engine these days.  :rolleyes:

[nokyookami 63]

Well... is a game out there in which you can use hoods all the time, and is automatic..it goes up or down depending if you going to kill someone or not....OH.. and you going to love this... the full game is about KoSing and nothing else.... what is the name ?...I think it is Assassin's Creed or something like that.

I Dont KoS and dont like assasins creed

And that isnt even same Genre xD

Dont see this as making sense at all in regards to rain protection and just generally that irl people hav option of wear hoodies with hoods up

I just like hoods and in survival scenario they have benifits help keep you warm and protect you from the elements

not wanting to play as an Assasins creed character at all

in dayZ or any other game

[Cpanther 221]

I Dont KoS and dont like assasins creed

And that isnt even same Genre xD

Dont see this as making sense at all in regards to rain protection and just generally that irl people hav option of wear hoodies with hoods up

I just like hoods and in survival scenario they have benifits help keep you warm and protect you from the elements

not wanting to play as an Assasins creed character at all

in dayZ or any other game

 

You don't KoS ?...well.. sorry... i got confuse by this comment ;

 

"Ah I See :( My Ideal Character Already KOS Before Even Born "

[nokyookami 63]

You don't KoS ?...well.. sorry... i got confuse by this comment ;

"Ah I See :( My Ideal Character Already KOS Before Even Born "

Oh sorry xD it was a play on DayZ phrase KoS

I was meaning Dev team 'shot down' my dream character before their bambie Infancy lol

Just was a joke sorry if was confusing :3

[Cpanther 221]

Oh sorry xD it was a play on DayZ phrase KoS

I was meaning Dev team 'shot down' my dream character before their bambie Infancy lol

Just was a joke sorry if was confusing :3

 

Ah.. i see.. anyway, lots of hoods in Assassin's Creed and lots of KoSing... i think is a full 10 people playing the multi-player mode if you interested.

[nokyookami 63]

Ah.. i see.. anyway, lots of hoods in Assassin's Creed and lots of KoSing... i think is a full 10 people playing the multi-player mode if you interested.

Hahaa but DayZ is so much fun and Less eagle vision to cheapSpot players xD

Just wanted to suggest a clothing item was all :3

Overall i love DayZ even with the past/current glitches still probably my favorite title

Only want more custom clothing pieces for various looking survivors After alpha and Beta

Whenever that may be

i hope it just keeps gets more Items ^_^

[Mos1ey 6301]

Hahaa but DayZ is so much fun and Less eagle vision to cheapSpot players xD

Just wanted to suggest a clothing item was all :3

Overall i love DayZ even with the past/current glitches still probably my favorite title

Only want more custom clothing pieces for various looking survivors After alpha and Beta

Whenever that may be

i hope it just keeps gets more Items ^_^

 

Of course. More items, vehicles, more complex survival aspect of the game... There's loads of stuff in the pipeline!

[nokyookami 63]

Of course. More items, vehicles, more complex survival aspect of the game... There's loads of stuff in the pipeline!

Thats what I Like to Hear :D

Cant wait to see whats in store for sure

Wait for all the versions with anticipation ^_^

[Element47 2481]

has been discarded by devs some time ago, as posted by Mos1ey.

 

has nothing to do with the engine though, character models/skeletons/rigging and cloth simulation doesnt need to use the legacy Arma system (which is horrible anyway). We have the Bullet physics engine in DayZ SA, which can be used to create robust cloth simulation. and to be honest, citing possible clipping as reason is an excuse in my eyes, because clipping is ubiquitous in this game anyway. no one would care much if a hood would clip slightly with a collar or glasses. i'd rather think it is beyond the capabilities of the current art team.

 

cloth simulation with collision is nothing new

 

[Evil Minion 943]

I believe a recent dev stream said something like: They have talked about it and settled on very low priority.

 

Its not like clipping of character model and clothing is a non-issue. It has to be resolved anyways and the solution may or may not allow for hoods.

[OrLoK 16186]

Hello there

 

Im sure it is doable, but to get it working correctly may not justify the cost or cycle overheads and pure pain in the assness that would ensue from doing it vs the reward of hoodies.

 

They could do it with "Parka's" as any 70s child will tell you those hoods didnt move much with the head especially with the cheap versions me and my mates mums and dads could afford. Literally tunnel vision.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

[nokyookami 63]

has been discarded by devs some time ago, as posted by Mos1ey.

 

has nothing to do with the engine though, character models/skeletons/rigging and cloth simulation doesnt need to use the legacy Arma system (which is horrible anyway). We have the Bullet physics engine in DayZ SA, which can be used to create robust cloth simulation. and to be honest, citing possible clipping as reason is an excuse in my eyes, because clipping is ubiquitous in this game anyway. no one would care much if a hood would clip slightly with a collar or glasses. i'd rather think it is beyond the capabilities of the current art team.

 

cloth simulation with collision is nothing new

 

Agreed

Although to be Honest Dynamic Cloth isnt Needed For Hoods Like Games Such as APB or Fable or Even the Big One Assasins Creed

Hoods Are Just as Static as Sleeves or other Gear 

While Cloth Simulation Would Look Fantastic for all Clothing isnt Needed To Simulate a Hood

[nokyookami 63]

Hello there

 

Im sure it is doable, but to get it working correctly may not justify the cost or cycle overheads and pure pain in the assness that would ensue from doing it vs the reward of hoodies.

 

They could do it with "Parka's" as any 70s child will tell you those hoods didnt move much with the head especially with the cheap versions me and my mates mums and dads could afford. Literally tunnel vision.

 

Rgds

 

LoK

Hahaa THey Could add those Parka's Can Just See all the Freezing Newspawns Resorting to Walking Around Like Ralphy's Little Brother in Xmas Story xD

Good Padding Vs Zombies as a added Bonus

They Arent Going to Be Biting/Clawing through those Anytime soon Like attackDog Training Suits those

Edited October 2, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[rybec 339]

That's exactly why they don't cause clipping issues, they fit tightly to the head so it doesn't cause problems.

 

Apparently the head would clip through the hood as you turn your head and also the section where the hood joins the torso would cause problems.

 

Did you play Arma2 with the character models that had hoods? The stretching wasn't that bad. As long as there's no decal on the hood there won't be any real nasty stretching look since it'd be a solid colour.

The model won't change when you turn your head ingame, but turn your head with a hood on right now and you'll notice there isn't much of a difference between in and out of game because the hood moves with your head anyway.

[nokyookami 63]

Did you play Arma2 with the character models that had hoods? The stretching wasn't that bad. As long as there's no decal on the hood there won't be any real nasty stretching look since it'd be a solid colour.

The model won't change when you turn your head ingame, but turn your head with a hood on right now and you'll notice there isn't much of a difference between in and out of game because the hood moves with your head anyway.

Agreed Thank you For that Notice in Arma2 I Have only Played StandAlone :lol: :thumbsup: :beans:

Also thought Dont Most Ghillie Suits Feature a Hood? Sure Many Players Will Want those :o

Edited October 3, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[Karmaterror 982]

Im confused, we had a hood on the A2 ghillie....so why cant they texture a hood up hoodie, swap it on context selection to the hooded model, and remove any other headgear to backpack (or floor if pack full). I know it would be complicated and there is a reason they haven't done it yet. But there must be a workaround if they achieved it in A2 :)

Edited October 3, 2014 by Karmaterror

[BadAsh (DayZ) 1513]

Well... is a game out there in which you can use hoods all the time, and is automatic..it goes up or down depending if you going to kill someone or not....OH.. and you going to love this... the full game is about KoSing and nothing else.... what is the name ?...I think it is Assassin's Creed or something like that.

 

AC doesn't have the ability for the player to try on a vast array of hats that needs to fit under that hood though.

[BeefBacon 1185]

AC doesn't have the ability for the player to try on a vast array of hats that needs to fit under that hood though.

 

Why can't hats just not be rendered while the hood is up? Or more simple, just don't allow the hood to be put up when a hat is on.

 

I don't know much about the Arma 2 engine, but the notion that hoods are impossible to implement due to engine limitations seems incredibly unlikely. No doubt it'd take a fair bit of work (in which case fair enough, it's not like hoods are a deal breaker - especially in alpha) but I find it unlikely that it's impossible.

[nokyookami 63]

Why can't hats just not be rendered while the hood is up? Or more simple, just don't allow the hood to be put up when a hat is on.

 

I don't know much about the Arma 2 engine, but the notion that hoods are impossible to implement due to engine limitations seems incredibly unlikely. No doubt it'd take a fair bit of work (in which case fair enough, it's not like hoods are a deal breaker - especially in alpha) but I find it unlikely that it's impossible.

Agreed I think To Many Games Have Found a Way to Deal With Not allowing Hats While Hood is on To Have that be a Very Valid Excuse

It Can Just Use up Same Slot as a Hat Surely Just Like When i Put on a Boonie Hat While Wearing a Baseball Cap My Character Doesn't Wear Both

But throws Hat in a Free Slot or Ground

 

(though that Would Be Hilarious to Wear a Stack of Hats)

Edited October 4, 2014 by NokyoOkami