Why..

[zippit 62]

Why do they even have the options for Kicking/Passwording the server, they could of just disabled them for public use..

[byrgesen 1341]

Passwording yes, it should have been disabled, but kicking can be done for legitimate reasons on the public servers.

 

Acceptable Usage of DayZ Servers (Also known as the “Do” list) 

You may change the following variables on your server :

• Player count (between 30 and 40) 
• Server name (Within certain limitations, which are called out below) 
• Server mode (between Regular and Hardcore) 
• Server time at restart 
• Server MOTD (Message of the Day) 

You may perform the following actions on your server :

• Restart server
• Kick abusive players (harassment, cheating, exploiting bugs)

           - Be aware that this can tread a fine line, and if you are found to be violating this rule your server may be disabled until the issue can be addressed. 

• Turn the server off 

[BugZ (DayZ) 49]

Some admins just kicking players directly when they join game. Some of them writing at title Join = kick or char reset. They have rights to charachter reset ?

[byrgesen 1341]

Some admins just kicking players directly when they join game. Some of them writing at title Join = kick or char reset. They have rights to charachter reset ?

 

No they cannot reset your char, this happens because the HIVE doesnt update your information.

If you encounter these servers, report them mate.

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/158966-dayz-standalone-server-hosting-rules-server-reporting/

[BratExecutioner 27]

lol,gonna report a server then. For days already some kids are kicking everyone,but not their clan.

[MaxTheSurvivor 152]

Some do that to gear up quickly with no competition. They rent a server for one month and use the server for the own usage looting all they can then connect to other servers and play bad asses. Report these servers.

[belphegor_goatzombie 100]

I can find hundred of servers like that, 70% of them have "join=kick" in their name. I don't understand how they cannot hire at least one guy to collect/report all of those.

[byrgesen 1341]

I can find hundred of servers like that, 70% of them have "join=kick" in their name. I don't understand how they cannot hire at least one guy to collect/report all of those.

 

Because its the GSP's job to shut it down, Bohemia cant shut the server down.

I agree, its not a perfect system at all, but its our job to report bad servers/admins and then the GSP will make a "ruling"

[slippery gypsy 107]

Some do that to gear up quickly with no competition. They rent a server for one month and use the server for the own usage looting all they can then connect to other servers and play bad asses. Report these servers.

why should you even care there are plenty of servers out there that dont kick you ... i understand a person is paying for a product then they should have the right to use it exclusively why should you get a free ride off there dollar ... one of the only decent things to come out of warZ you could use gold coins to rent server time off someone and you could obtain gold through trading .... i have never rented a game server in my life but if i did pony up the coin im pretty sure i would be booting whiney ass free loaders that tattle on you for kicking them ...i dont care about the policy pretty sure paying customer beats sore assed cry baby any day of the week 

[slippery gypsy 107]

Because its the GSP's job to shut it down, Bohemia cant shut the server down.

I agree, its not a perfect system at all, but its our job to report bad servers/admins and then the GSP will make a "ruling"

your job .... how noble of you you didnt pay for it but if you cant use it no one can right ... your just as much a scumbag for narking on paying admins as the mutli restart multi kicker admins 

why not just move on to another server ... 

[MaxTheSurvivor 152]

When you rent a server you know you have to respect some rules, one of them is to leave the server open for any kind of public not just your clan or yourself, if you want a private server of your own then wait for private server with private hives to be available. Until then, making a server unavailable to others by locking it with a password or kicking people out is an infringement to the rules you accepted when you rented the server. These are not my rules. If you cannot understand that some people are pissed off being ejected from a server because they've paid the game and they feel like having the right to connect to these servers then you should cancel your server subscription.

[hells high 676]

Some admins just kicking players directly when they join game. Some of them writing at title Join = kick or char reset. They have rights to charachter reset ?

 

Nah you'd need to have control over the central hive (they don't). These are just awful players that can't loot in a regular server environment so they create a safe haven for their friends to gear up.

 

If they kick you for no reason you should report the server.

 

why should you even care there are plenty of servers out there that dont kick you ... i understand a person is paying for a product then they should have the right to use it exclusively why should you get a free ride off there dollar ... one of the only decent things to come out of warZ you could use gold coins to rent server time off someone and you could obtain gold through trading .... i have never rented a game server in my life but if i did pony up the coin im pretty sure i would be booting whiney ass free loaders that tattle on you for kicking them ...i dont care about the policy pretty sure paying customer beats sore assed cry baby any day of the week 

 

Its against the rules. Period.

[slippery gypsy 107]

When you rent a server you know you have to respect some rules, one of them is to leave the server open for any kind of public not just your clan or yourself, if you want a private server of your own then wait for private server with private hives to be available. Until then, making a server unavailable to others by locking it with a password or kicking people out is an infringement to the rules you accepted when you rented the server. These are not my rules. If you cannot understand that some people are pissed off being ejected from a server because they've paid the game and they feel like having the right to connect to these servers then you should cancel your server subscription.

why have a password option if its against the rules rockatansky???

[MaxTheSurvivor 152]

why have a password option if its against the rules rockatansky???

 

:D Thanks for not having misspelled the lastname :D , back on topic; I think the devs just made the server with the idea to have private hives in the future so they added the password option right from the beginning.

[byrgesen 1341]

your job .... how noble of you you didnt pay for it but if you cant use it no one can right ... your just as much a scumbag for narking on paying admins as the mutli restart multi kicker admins 

why not just move on to another server ... 

 

Because if you move onto another server and stop giving a crap, the servers will go to hell.

The mod history showed us this.

 

The more committed we as players are, to having a "clean" server list, the more clean it will be in the end. 

BI cant keep track of all the admins, but we as players can.

 

Exactly like its the peoples responsibility to tell the government when they have gone to far with something, its our (players) responsibility to make sure admins doesnt abuse the servers and make our game look like crap.

 

If admins play by the rules, theres no issue at all, so im only pointing fingers at abusive admins, nothing else.

Im not a scumbag, its called taking responsibility and doing something about it, you should try it.....

 

 

why should you even care there are plenty of servers out there that dont kick you ... i understand a person is paying for a product then they should have the right to use it exclusively why should you get a free ride off there dollar ... one of the only decent things to come out of warZ you could use gold coins to rent server time off someone and you could obtain gold through trading .... i have never rented a game server in my life but if i did pony up the coin im pretty sure i would be booting whiney ass free loaders that tattle on you for kicking them ...i dont care about the policy pretty sure paying customer beats sore assed cry baby any day of the week 

 

 

Alright, so basicly you are saying that people should be allowed to buy a weapon (as an example) and do WHAT EVER they want with it, because they bought it?

Cmon dude, you cant be that naive....

 

I can just see the court room:

 

Judge: "You shot two people on your way home from MC Donalds, why?"

Defendant: "Well i payed for the gun, so why shouldnt i?"

Judge: "Good point, release the man, he has done nothing wrong"

 

You get my drift????????!!!!

 

:D Thanks for not having misspelled the lastname :D , back on topic; I think the devs just made the server with the idea to have private hives in the future so they added the password option right from the beginning.

 

Correction, they never removed the option in the first place :)

Passwording has always been a part of Arma servers, and since they started off with that, perhaps they didnt see the need to delete it or make it non-functional, i dunno.

But its there none the less, and hopefully in the future, passwording will be disabled on public servers, in the code, to make it non-functional. Hopefully.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Byrgesen

[Krawallkurt 118]

One of the only things that annoy me like Hell atm. You join a server ,come out of your save positinon and start going somewhere interesting and BAM " kicked by Admin" And you stand somewhere on the road or in the middel of a open Field. Thanks a lot Admin!

[slippery gypsy 107]

 

 

 

 

Alright, so basicly you are saying that people should be allowed to buy a weapon (as an example) and do WHAT EVER they want with it, because they bought it?

Cmon dude, you cant be that naive....

 

I can just see the court room:

 

Judge: "You shot two people on your way home from MC Donalds, why?"

Defendant: "Well i payed for the gun, so why shouldnt i?"

Judge: "Good point, release the man, he has done nothing wrong"

 

You get my drift????????!!!!

 

 

yes i totally get your drift ... the kid who spent his pocket money to play dayz on a server with there friends without other people ruining there perceived dayz experience is now is the same league a someone who committed multiple murders 

imo there are so many server available that you dont really need to bother with jerk off admins and there constant restarts ...and more to the point how many do you know of that have been closed due to miss use ?

[Rauchsauger 94]

Ya the reason why I canceled my server.

Could not stand the offchance that my hard earned cash provides for the likes of Byrgesen (just an example of attitude) - demanding everything giving nothing.

I can understand someone who runs a server and says this server is only for paying/select players which are chosen by those who pay.

 

The whole "nazi" stance on total control over the hive wether the server is private or not (The only reason why there are no private server to begin with)

is bullshit (*But it will ruin the game qq !!!oneeleven* Yeah sure that is why nobody plays the mod anymore o_O) . I can decide for myself where I want to play - and if I don't like it it  I move somewhere else...or I rent a server myself instead of whining

[skypig 139]

the key word here is RENT... you are renting a server not owning it.

if you own a house you can paint the inside any color you like... if you're renting you have to live by the owners rules.

if you're renting a server (for now) you can't boot people and use it as your own private loot farm.

spare us the "my hard earned money!" bullshit too

[Mos1ey 6301]

why should you even care there are plenty of servers out there that dont kick you ... i understand a person is paying for a product then they should have the right to use it exclusively why should you get a free ride off there dollar ... one of the only decent things to come out of warZ you could use gold coins to rent server time off someone and you could obtain gold through trading .... i have never rented a game server in my life but if i did pony up the coin im pretty sure i would be booting whiney ass free loaders that tattle on you for kicking them ...i dont care about the policy pretty sure paying customer beats sore assed cry baby any day of the week 

 

Because they're violating the ToS and using their server in a way that gives them an advantage over legitimate servers.

 

Once private hives are introduced you will be allowed to play in your own empty server if you want, but it will never be allowed on the main hive.

[byrgesen 1341]

yes i totally get your drift ... the kid who spent his pocket money to play dayz on a server with there friends without other people ruining there perceived dayz experience is now is the same league a someone who committed multiple murders 

imo there are so many server available that you dont really need to bother with jerk off admins and there constant restarts ...and more to the point how many do you know of that have been closed due to miss use ?

 

 

Ok, you didnt get my drift at all......

 

Im not comparing cheating in a game to homicide, im comparing the principle of breaking the rules, any rules, it doesnt matter, the principle is the same, you break a rule. This is something you learn small kids, from the time they start moving around.

If a governing body (Bohemia in this case but could be a parent, the government, a landlord, doesnt matter) tells you not to do it, and you do it, you are breaking the rules and you deserve to be punished for it, no matter what rule you broke imho.

 

I know theres alot of servers, but why cant you understand that if we (players) allow one admin to be an ashole, there will be alot more doing the same?

Im having a really hard time understanding, why you are having a hard time understanding, that breaking the rules is not ok.

Its that simple, you own nothing when you pay for a server, you rent it and the landlord (Bohemia) sets the rules for you to follow. Now, you either do so or you get kicked out, exactly like in the real world.

 

Personally i have reported hundreds of servers for violating the rules, i report servers pretty much every single time i sit down to play the game, because i think its not ok ot act like a dick and gain an advantage on the public HIVE, how can you believe that its ok? Unless you are one of these admins and you like doing it, i simply dont understand why you would allow it.....

 

Ya the reason why I canceled my server.

Could not stand the offchance that my hard earned cash provides for the likes of Byrgesen (just an example of attitude) - demanding everything giving nothing.

I can understand someone who runs a server and says this server is only for paying/select players which are chosen by those who pay.

 

The whole "nazi" stance on total control over the hive wether the server is private or not (The only reason why there are no private server to begin with)

is bullshit (*But it will ruin the game qq !!!oneeleven* Yeah sure that is why nobody plays the mod anymore o_O) . I can decide for myself where I want to play - and if I don't like it it  I move somewhere else...or I rent a server myself instead of whining

 

Im really not liking that you use my "attitude" as an example of people demanding everything and giving nothing.

I demand one thing from you admins, follow the f****** rules...... Its not hard mate, i did it in the mod for several years, its really not hard at all.....

 

The whole "i want to do what ever i want" on the public HIVE is bullshit imho. Everybody deserves the same treatment, and when you start kicking people from a public server, for friends, clan mates or simply because you dont like them, you are denying them equality in the game, and using it as your own private playground.

 

Get a private server as soon as it comes out, put a password on it and do what ever you want in there, i dont care, but follow the damn rules on the public HIVE.

Have some respect for the other players and have some respect for Bohemia, who are trying to give you the chance of following the development up close and personal.

 

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This whole "I payed for it and its up to me how i use it" mentallity, is so sad, so imature.

Grow up, follow the rules set for you, and make the best of it.

Stop demanding unrealistic things and stop blaming people who are trying to make this a better game, by getting rid of loser admins.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Byrgesen

[flimsypremise 94]

You can't have private servers on the public hive because players will horde items that should be publicly available. Once we can have private hives, we can have private servers. Being able to keep your items in a persistent tent on a server that no one but you and your friends can access provides an enormous gameplay advantage.

[byrgesen 1341]

You can't have private servers on the public hive because players will horde items that should be publicly available. Once we can have private hives, we can have private servers. Being able to keep your items in a persistent tent on a server that no one but you and your friends can access provides an enormous gameplay advantage.

 

See!!! This guy uses two lines and he totally gets why we have these rules. :)

Its not hard at all hehe, have some beans mate.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Byrgesen

[billyjo 9]

why should you even care there are plenty of servers out there that dont kick you ... i understand a person is paying for a product then they should have the right to use it exclusively why should you get a free ride off there dollar ... one of the only decent things to come out of warZ you could use gold coins to rent server time off someone and you could obtain gold through trading .... i have never rented a game server in my life but if i did pony up the coin im pretty sure i would be booting whiney ass free loaders that tattle on you for kicking them ...i dont care about the policy pretty sure paying customer beats sore assed cry baby any day of the week 

When you rent a server you agree to the terms, if you can't live with the terms then don't rent it.  You don't own it you're paying for the privilage to rent it.  Rules are rules and the people that rent them are aware of them going in.

 

At one point I joined a clan that kicked people and locked the server to get geared up, or would reset it if they got killed and would even go as far as kicking people if they got pinned down.  I left that clan because to me that wasn't what the game was about.  The clan I'm in now plays 100% legit and I couldn't be happier!

[slippery gypsy 107]

the key word here is RENT... you are renting a server not owning it.

if you own a house you can paint the inside any color you like... if you're renting you have to live by the owners rules.

if you're renting a server (for now) you can't boot people and use it as your own private loot farm.

spare us the "my hard earned money!" bullshit too

yes and in that rented house you can let any person you like in you also have the right to kick anyone out of that rented house 

like i said before how many servers have been closed due to miss use ...  why would a business cut off a paying customer who could potentially be a long term cash cow as oppossed to someone who dislikes the attitude of that customer TOS or not considering in the scheme of things server fees = $$$$ DayZ nerds opinion about ToS abuse = what exactly ... if someone had some sort of idea about how many were shut down then i would believe it was worth reporting them but until then it seems a better idea to just move on ... why have the people wanting to report these servers not found a handful of good administered servers to play on anyway ... to be continually pissy about server abuse you must be hopping on a fair few which if that was the case would bring a whole new series of ethical questions into it 

@Byrgesen i will help you understand from my point ... do you know if you are making any difference ???if so then it makes my just move on statement redundant 

if you do not know  then why continue to piss in the wind ... you and your friends can quote rules all you like but your standing there covered in piss while xXjohnnysnipesleetstylesXx is restarting his server every 5 minutes gearin up with no consequence 

Edited September 30, 2014 by melfist