More Spray Pain Color Options For Latter Please! :)

[Deathlove 2286]

It doesn't matter if your wearing the best camo. You better be a damn good shot or your dead. Again wearing bright clothing does not effect me in a negative way. And believe it or not i tend to go for the brightest pieces and get the least amount of flak on servers. If i wear camo guess what? I get targeted way fucking more.

 

No, but seriously, you'll just see a parade of morons wearing Payday masks and bright colours (with possibly no pants) going around and screaming into their microphone. It's gonna be immersion breaking.

 

Also, another issue is that people may be trolls and paint whatever they find pink, red, lime green, yellow, orange, purple, whatever. So instead of finding normal black/green ballistic helmets, you might find a bunch of hot pink ones at an airfield, or a bright yellow hunter backpack, or some purple boots.

Im cool with a pink military helmet. Iv had some ppl try to go gun hoe tacticool with all the camo and shit against me. That just made them an early grave is all lol. Again having color is NOT immersion breaking you can drench yourself in the FINEST military clothing and hunting camo in game. But that wont save you if you cant shoot or are bad with tacit's.

 

You seem to be under the influence that these bright colors may make you look gender queer possibly? Thats the only thing i can see as to why you would be uncomfortable with it. Otherwise arguing against color options other than the muddled ones seems rather silly. Were going to be having female clothing soon as well. You don't think ppl are going to troll you even more leaving nothing but those clothing for you to wear in good shape? lol

 

I did also say there should be ways to take the paint off such as in real life to get the original color back. So this issue of trolling could be EASILY solved or remedied.

 

Without color the world would be a very very very boring place.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Deathlove

[Deathlove 2286]

[Deathlove 2286]

Edited October 5, 2014 by Deathlove

[agentstaple 29]

I get what Powerhouse is saying.

 

Adding more "options" is good but adding tonnes of brightly coloured paints really will effect gameplay and imersion without adding much to it.

 

Though I also think that he's not considering the spawn rates of these paints. Basic colours like greys, greens, browns, tans and matts (navy blue, dark green, dark red etc.) should be fairly common while brighter more unique colours should be rarer. bright green, blue, red, hotpink, gold, silver, etc might be worth adding, if for nothing but the lols but they should be considerably rare hotpinks and golds should be very very rare.

 

I wouldn't ask for it to be added, or support it in anyway but I wouldn't be 100% against it either, as long as the more ridiculous colours are rare. Finding a hotpink can of spray should be like "holy shit guys look at this!" It should be special.

[hleVqq 139]

What sort of bad will it do ? That some self obsessed freak paints his gun pink ?

That many self obsessed freaks will paint their guns pink, which won't even remotely reflect an actual zombie apocalypse situation.

 

Though I also think that he's not considering the spawn rates of these paints. Basic colours like greys, greens, browns, tans and matts (navy blue, dark green, dark red etc.) should be fairly common while brighter more unique colours should be rarer. bright green, blue, red, hotpink, gold, silver, etc might be worth adding, if for nothing but the lols but they should be considerably rare hotpinks and golds should be very very rare.

Rarity will only encourage the use of those spray paint colors.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Powerhouse

[General Zod 1118]

That many self obsessed freaks will paint their guns pink, which won't even remotely reflect an actual zombie apocalypse situation.

And you know that based on all those zombie apocalypses that you survived in the past ? 

[Deathlove 2286]

I get what Powerhouse is saying.

 

Adding more "options" is good but adding tonnes of brightly coloured paints really will effect gameplay and imersion without adding much to it.

 

Though I also think that he's not considering the spawn rates of these paints. Basic colours like greys, greens, browns, tans and matts (navy blue, dark green, dark red etc.) should be fairly common while brighter more unique colours should be rarer. bright green, blue, red, hotpink, gold, silver, etc might be worth adding, if for nothing but the lols but they should be considerably rare hotpinks and golds should be very very rare.

 

I wouldn't ask for it to be added, or support it in anyway but I wouldn't be 100% against it either, as long as the more ridiculous colours are rare. Finding a hotpink can of spray should be like "holy shit guys look at this!" It should be special.

Especially specific types of metallic colors. They can be much more specialized and harder to find in real life as far as anything metallic or chrome color goes.

[hleVqq 139]

And you know that based on all those zombie apocalypses that you survived in the past ? 

I know that because I'm not a mindless idiot.

[Deathlove 2286]

That many self obsessed freaks will paint their guns pink, which won't even remotely reflect an actual zombie apocalypse situation.

 

Rarity will only encourage the use of those spray paint colors.

How does this hinder your game play or threaten you in real life in any way? How the fuck does adding colors that YOU don't have to choose to wear at all upset the core game play for many others?

[Evil Minion 943]

That many self obsessed freaks will paint their guns pink

So what? Let them be self obsessed freaks! The have the right and should be able to do so. Its an open world game after all!

 

Why do you guys try to limit options for the sake of limiting options and then call it "immersion"? Its not immersive if the only items around are things directly related to survival. Its not immersive if everyone looks like a freaking soldier. Its not immersive if the only spraypaint around is conveniently in some kind of "camouflage color". And its not immersive not being allowed to be a self obessed freak in what is supposed to be an open and authentic world.

 

Maybe painting your gun pink would actually improve your chance of survival in a zombie apocalypse because of the signalling aspect? Bright colors are a way of communication you know.

[Deathlove 2286]

So what? Let them be self obsessed freaks! The have the right and should be able to do so. Its an open world game after all!

 

Why do you guys try to limit options for the sake of limiting options and then call it "immersion"? Its not immersive if the only items around are things directly related to survival. Its not immersive if everyone looks like a freaking soldier. Its not immersive if the only spraypaint around is conveniently in some kind of "camouflage color". And its not immersive not being allowed to be a self obessed freak in what is supposed to be an open and authentic world.

 

Maybe painting your gun pink would actually improve your chance of survival in a zombie apocalypse because of the signalling aspect? Bright colors are a way of communication you know.

Not to mention if you have to drop your gun in grass and have no choice. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT if its camo painted lol.

[General Zod 1118]

I know that because I'm not a mindless idiot.

No you're far worse, you're an idiot who keeps on saying that things that are tactci cool survial should not be in game. Following your logc lets remove bright clothes (fuck the bright yellow raincoat in particular)

But you're arguments are based on one meaningless thing :

You wouldn't use them. 

So what there is a lot of people who would. Not to mention that people already said that your beloved camouflage colours are USELESS in towns. 

[agentstaple 29]

So what? Let them be self obsessed freaks! The have the right and should be able to do so. Its an open world game after all!

 

Why do you guys try to limit options for the sake of limiting options and then call it "immersion"? Its not immersive if the only items around are things directly related to survival. Its not immersive if everyone looks like a freaking soldier. Its not immersive if the only spraypaint around is conveniently in some kind of "camouflage color". And its not immersive not being allowed to be a self obessed freak in what is supposed to be an open and authentic world.

 

Maybe painting your gun pink would actually improve your chance of survival in a zombie apocalypse because of the signalling aspect? Bright colors are a way of communication you know.

It might improve your chance of survival but in most cases it will lessen them. It would be useful for large or unskilled squads.

 

It's not about limitiing options for the sake of limiting options. It's about not adding stuff that takes away from the game without giving much back.

 

So, tell me, What do bright coloured spray paints add to the game other than shits and giggles. What core mechanics do they improve.  You are trying to add stuff for the sake of adding stuff.

 

edit: "(fuck the bright yellow raincoat in particular)"

 

The bright yellow raincoat is a compromise between staying dry and being visible to everyone. I think making these choices in the end game should be perfectly acceptable. But they should also get you killed. Come to think about it I think hot pink should be as common as every other colour but it should have really bad down sides, zombies being able to spot you from further away for example.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Agentstapler

[General Zod 1118]

So, tell me, What do bright coloured spray paints add to the game other than shits and giggles. What core mechanics do they improve.  You are trying to add stuff for the sake of adding stuff.

 

Why does it have to be for the sole purpose of survival and improving "core mechanics". Why not add thing for shits and giggles ? It just might make someone's day in this fucking grim ruthless world to slap on some colour onto their gear. So that they can distinguish themselves from other instead of everyone looking like a freaking soldier wearing cammo ? 

For example cattle prods

They are not capable of knocking people out like teaser, so what survival purpose they serve? 

As for raincoat, if devs were so obsessed with pure survival benefiting items that do not stand out they would add green reincoat, instead we have bright yellow and techo orange. 

Edited October 5, 2014 by General Zod

[Deathlove 2286]

It might improve your chance of survival but in most cases it will lessen them. It would be useful for large or unskilled squads.

 

It's not about limitiing options for the sake of limiting options. It's about not adding stuff that takes away from the game without giving much back.

 

So, tell me, What do bright coloured spray paints add to the game other than shits and giggles. What core mechanics do they improve.  You are trying to add stuff for the sake of adding stuff.

 

and I do support extra colours, even hot pink, but as I've said it should be very very rare.

Having color would not detract from the feel of the game. You ether choose to use things or you dont. Its your choose as it should be in a sandbox situation like we are playing.

 

Not everyone wants to look like military or hunting experts all the time. In fact where the hell are the BRIGHT orange hunting vest at? lol I mean even in hunting there is bright clothing used at times which is a complete option for some hunters to use. In fact the sad thing is the only REASON why allot of ppl are wearing most of the military/hunting gear is for max capacity with carrying items is some cases. If other clothing and gear with different colors had this option like allot of the military gear it wouldn't feel so constricting on players choice in some cases.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Deathlove

[Deathlove 2286]

Why does it have to be for the sole purpose of survival and improving "core mechanics". Why not add thing for shits and giggles ? It just might make someone's day in this fucking grim ruthless world to slap on some colour onto their gear. So that they can distinguish themselves from other instead of everyone looking like a freaking soldier wearing cammo ? 

For example cattle prods

They are not capable of knocking people out like teaser, so what survival purpose they serve? 

As for raincoat, if devs were so obsessed with pure survival benefiting items that do not stand out they would add green reincoat, instead we have bright yellow and techo orange. 

You forgot that they are crimson red to. LOL i think we should change it to black because the color is out of place in this game and is immersion breaking.

[Evil Minion 943]

It's about not adding stuff that takes away from the game without giving much back.

So how exactly would bright spraypaint take away from the game? It would enhance any aspect that is not PvP - and even PvP if used properly. The negative effect? Self obsessed freaks going YOLO? We still got this and it arguably enhances the experience.

 

The arguments here are akin to "wearing pink should be outlawed because I don't wear pink and I hate seeing people in pink clothes". For me it seems you guys are coming from Arma and any change that would benefit social aspects and move DayZ further away froim being a MilSim takes away from the game. DayZ is not and should never be a MilSim!

[agentstaple 29]

Why does it have to be for the sole purpose of survival and improving "core mechanics". Why not add thing for shits and giggles ? It just might make someone's day in this fucking grim ruthless world to slap on some colour onto their gear. So that they can distinguish themselves from other instead of everyone looking like a freaking soldier wearing cammo ? 

For example cattle prods

They are not capable of knocking people out like teaser, so what survival purpose they serve? 

As for raincoat, if devs were so obsessed with pure survival benefiting items that do not stand out they would add green reincoat, instead we have bright yellow and techo orange. 

Because adding things for shits and giggles takes away from the core mechanics. Which are based around survival.

 

I'm not saying don't add them, I'm saying integrate them. If you want to act stupid in the apocalypse go ahead, but it will get you killed.

 

Like, the raincoats. They increase the chances you will be spotted by bandits but they keep you dry. Either way you are taking a risk and it's your choice. I think brightly coloured items should also effect how easily spotted by Z's you are as well, to further these tough decisions.

 

Do you want a cool looking pink gun? Sure, but you'll be more easily spotted by bandits and zombies. Maybe weapons should even lose condition overtime due to rust and things, that way there are actually benefits to painting your gun pink.

 

 

Edit:

 

@evilminion

>So how exactly would bright spraypaint take away from the game? It would enhance any aspect that is not PvP - and even PvP if used properly. The negative effect? Self obsessed freaks going YOLO? We still got this and it arguably enhances the experience.

 

It takes away from the seriousness of the game, which breaks immersion. I dont think you realise how important immersion is.

 

>The arguments here are akin to "wearing pink should be outlawed because I don't wear pink and I hate seeing people in pink clothes". For me it seems you guys are coming from Arma and any change that would benefit social aspects and move DayZ further away froim being a MilSim takes away from the game. DayZ is not and should never be a MilSim!

 

GTFO with your silly arguments XD

 

Where the hell did I say anything like that. And I agree, it shouldn't be a milsim, it's a survival sim. Everything you do should have a consequence.

 

 

@generalzod

 

>Following this logic lets remove ability to remove clothes and run around in underwear.

Not only it removes the tacti cool camouflage effect. But also makes you freeze and take more damage. REMOVE IT NOW !!!1!!111!1

 

 

You just said yourself, people are punished for running around naked.

 

>let them do it.

 

I agree. I just also think they should die for it because dayz is not the place for shenanigans.

 

 

someone suggested bright orange hunting vests, those are the kind of things I wanna see. real benefits and downfalls, extra storage and warmth at the cost of being bright orange.

 

To be honest I'm not sure why I'm still discussing this, I trust the devs and doubt they would add bright colours for no reason other than "social aspects".

Edited October 5, 2014 by Agentstapler

[General Zod 1118]

Following this logic lets remove ability to remove clothes and run around in underwear.

Not only it removes the tacti cool camouflage effect. But also makes you freeze and take more damage. REMOVE IT NOW !!!1!!111!1

 

 

Because adding things for shits and giggles takes away from the core mechanics. Which are based around survival.

 

I'm not saying don't add them, I'm saying integrate them. If you want to act stupid in the apocalypse go ahead, but it will get you killed.

 

Like, the raincoats. They increase the chances you will be spotted by bandits but they keep you dry. Either way you are taking a risk and it's your choice. I think brightly coloured items should also effect how easily spotted by Z's you are as well, to further these tough decisions.

 

Do you want a cool looking pink gun? Sure, but you'll be more easily spotted by bandits and zombies. Maybe weapons should even lose condition overtime due to rust and things, that way there are actually benefits to painting your gun pink.

 

But no once forces you to do it. If others want to become bright and visible why not let them ? You can keep your core mechanics of surviving, and at the same time let others not do that. Go ahead keep your camouflage, and do only thing that let you survive, but let others do things they want. Maybe they get bored with pure survival and want to do some shenanigans, let them do it. 

Edited October 5, 2014 by General Zod

[Evil Minion 943]

Going naked has gameplay implications and can be to your advantage. Less so at the moment as Chernarus is pretty cold right now. Is it even possible to die from hyperthermia in stable? They should probably add something like a "blazing sun" weather effect.

Where the hell did I say anything like that. And I agree, it shouldn't be a milsim, it's a survival sim. Everything you do should have a consequence.

You didn't - might have been misleading as I quoted your post. I absolutely agree with consequences - painting something in bright colors should come with all implications. Thats what it takes to be a gameplay choice rather than a purely cosmetic one. You use bright colors because you want others to see them. Because the lack of expected consequences is what would break immersion. Thats the reason this is shit (if meant/working as actual armor) but this is not (though especially the shoes would not really add to the game because there is no sexual signalling which is basically their only purpose).

 

Now things like metallic spraypaint might be a little rarer and pink might not be the most common color either but it shouldn't be hard to find red or blue paint.

Edited October 5, 2014 by Evil Minion

[lelmat132 6]

You mean your immersion ? You mean your point of view ?

The whole argument is based of your selfish point of view. Just because you don't like doesn't mean we should take it away from others.

 

Wow, hypocrite much? You're not picturing it from my perspective, are you? Do you really support 99% of DayZ Players running around in colourful shit? Sure, it'll be easy to spot them, but it won't be a realistic experience, because utterly nobody would actually chose to do that in real life.

[nokyookami 63]

because utterly nobody would actually chose to do that in real life.

to say Nobody Would is An Awful Huge Assumption Taking on your Self to Speak For all of Humanity From all Corners of the Globe

Am Sure People would Use Color in real Life

In the Past and Present  People Have Seen Harsh Times With The Possibility of Someone Shooting them and they Still Wear Color

Not Everyone Wants to Be Seen as a Military or Tactical threat

Camoflauge is seen as aggressive/Militaristic by Many People

Some People Dont want to Be Perceived as Aggressive or threatening and thus Choose Civilian Clothes and Colors that Don't Make them Look Like a Trained Military Killer

Separating Civilian And Military Play Styles By Allowing People The Choice of Colors is Something i See as adding Benefits to this Game

Choices May Make you Be able to Read People From a Distance and Help to Decide to Approach, Avoid, or Kill

[Deathlove 2286]

to say Nobody Would is An Awful Huge Assumption Taking on your Self to Speak For all of Humanity From all Corners of the Globe

Am Sure People would Use Color in real Life

In the Past and Present  People Have Seen Harsh Times With The Possibility of Someone Shooting them and they Still Wear Color

Not Everyone Wants to Be Seen as a Military or Tactical threat

Camoflauge is seen as aggressive/Militaristic by Many People

Some People Dont want to Be Perceived as Aggressive or threatening and thus Choose Civilian Clothes and Colors that Don't Make them Look Like a Trained Military Killer

Separating Civilian And Military Play Styles By Allowing People The Choice of Colors is Something i See as adding Benefits to this Game

Choices May Make you Be able to Read People From a Distance and Help to Decide to Approach, Avoid, or Kill

Or a blend of the two would be nice. Id personally love to change some of the colors of the military helms. Gorka E helmet into silver or bright red with a health cross. Pilot helmet bright banana yellow or silver. Standard lvl 3 protection helms into gold, pink, greens, blues, etc.

[nokyookami 63]

Or a blend of the two would be nice. Id personally love to change some of the colors of the military helms. Gorka E helmet into silver or bright red with a health cross. Pilot helmet bright banana yellow or silver. Standard lvl 3 protection helms into gold, pink, greens, blues, etc.

Agreed Even Civilians Need Protection in an Apocalypse

I Actualy Like to Wear a Flight Helm But i Like Leave it White and Pair it in Ways To Try Make me More Humanized

I am not a KoS Type And Don't want to Be a Looming threat to everyone i Try to Engage in Conversation

Trying to approach  without Gunfire is Hard to Do When your Armed to the Teeth and Dressed in Full Combat Gear

That "Friendly" Comes across as Baiting them Rather than Genuine when your Dressed Like that xD

 

Edited October 6, 2014 by NokyoOkami

[lelmat132 6]

To say nobody would be an awful huge assumption taking on your self to speak for all of humanity, from all corners of the globe.

I am sure people would use color in real life.

In the past and present, people have seen harsh times with the possibility of someone shooting them and they still wear color.

Not everyone wants to be seen as military personnel or tactical threat.

Camouflage is seen as aggressive/militaristic by many people.

Some people don't want to be perceived as aggressive or threatening and thus choose civilian clothing and colors that don't make them look like a trained military soldier.

Separating civilian and military playstyles by allowing people the choice of colors is something I see as adding benefits to the game.

Choices may make you be able to read people from a distance and help to decide to approach, avoid, or kill.

 

No, but we're talking about the zombie apocalypse here, not some sort of civil war. However, I should have said "majority of people" instead of "nobody".

 

However, you do have a valid point, but you are missing the fact that there are civilian clothing items in the game that separate playstyles. There is no need for coloured spray paints, because if people don't want to look tactical they should avoid any vests or military helmets in the first place.

 

However, I don't see normal civilians wearing bright coloured stuff. Only insane people in the first place would ever wear outstanding colours, others would wear dull stuff like black, green, brown, etc.