Loot spawns - anyone else frustrated?

[johnny0964 (DayZ) 15]

Toning down the loot spawns is a great idea, but not to the extent the devs have done with this new update. It's nearly impossible to find an AKM in Chernarus. Chernarus, in the armaverse, is very close to Russia, so you would think there would be tons of Kalashkinov rifles flowing into the country before the apocalypse hit. Despite this, I haven't found a single one. 

 

Yes, I do think lowering loot spawns could be beneficial, but so far, it has been the opposite. Anyone else out there feel the same way?

 

[Cptn_Miller 83]

Frustrated - no, just have to find the new locations...  like the barracks and nearby buildings at airfields, however these places are normally loaded with people ready to waste you in a heartbeat.  Half the tents (wooden floor) dont spawn anything and the others have limited weapons with what seems excessive 5.56mm ammo.  7.62x39mm are harder to come by, never mind the 30 clip and 75 drum.

[leviski 2152]

I find it much easier to find AKMs since the new update.

 

No idea what you are going on about.

 

Ammo for them however is Slightly more rare, now instead of having 6 drum mags, I only have 5

 

*gasp*

 

Just wait in 2 weeks time once the New loot system kicks in guns should be non-existant.

[gannon46 788]

get used to it this is just the beginning guns and ammo hell cans of food I think are gonna become more rare. time to brush up those archery skills.

[Evil Minion 943]

Not frustrated at all - in fact I found tons of supplies, clothes (though necessary in the current state as getting hit by zombies twice will ruin your topwear), ammo (mainly 12 gauge, .380 Auto and 7.62mm) and guns. I didn't find assault rifles but thats fine because I mostly stuck to cities and towns with only a few visits to military bases. However I am currently carrying a Blaze 95, an Obrez, a CR75 and a Longhorn - civilian weapons seem to be very common.

 

I also think military gear should be very rare in the first place - so not finding an AKM for a long time is actually a good thing.

[dodas 47]

AKM really? thats easy. I wonder why they added mp5 or PM73 in the game. Noone can find them

[James Hawke 114]

Haha... the first time I played this patch I was frustrated about not finding any proper clothes! Or food! xD

I don't give a damn about the AKM. I was happy to find two Mosins for me and my friend. And plenty of ammo for other guns in case I find any. Assault rifles should be hard to come by.

[Zombie Milkman 167]

What I have found so far with loot spawn weapons & ammo.

 

Guns

AK101 - not so bad

AKM - none yet xD

SKS - Tons

Makharov - All over, like cans of tuna almost

357 - ZERO

P1 - more than before

shotgun ("you mean a gun that fires shots? Oh you must be the brains of the operation") - normal spawn

1911 - ZERO

Mozy - Of coursie! Common

CRZ75 - occasionally

Longhorn - None

 

Ammo & Mags/Clips

AK101 - Ammo LOTS...Mags NONE

AKM - Ammo LESS THAN BEFORE...Mags PLENTY

SKS - Normal distribution of ammo and ten pack loaders

Makharov - Ammo & Clips LOTS

357 - Ammo & Speed Loaders LOTS

P1 - Who cares xD

shotgun - Ammo And Speed Clips LOTS

1911 - Ammo LOTS...Clips ZERO

Mozy - Of coursie! Normal distribution

CRZ75 Carbine - NONE NUN ZERO ZED NADDA ZILCH on ammo or the mythical speed loader  WTF is this even in the game?  Might as well call it a unicorn with horn mounted laser beam.

 

Other

Hack saw - not nearly enough

 

Obviously we all experience different distribution of items across the million servers we play on, but that's what I have found so far in 1st and 3rd person servers.

Edited September 21, 2014 by Zombie Milkman

[odin_lowe 3686]

I don't have any problem finding AKM and AK101 in barracks. There's plenty of them. On the other hand, finding an UH heli crash site with and M4 is very tough. I keep finding the Mi-8 crashes instead, and they only spawn clothes (with the elusive SMERSH vest, the only way to find it...)

[harteman 155]

Im all for the extreme rarity of guns and ammo.  Bring it.

[Sirwarriant12 94]

First life, unfortunately dead now thanks to some one who shot me in the back after we agreed to go in the opposite direction(my mistake I know) in about an hour and a half I had full gorka, MASKA helmet along with a gas mask, a balaclava, hunting back pack, kitted akm with 2 mags, mosin with PU and  LRS, bunch of rice, 3 canteens and a bunch of med supplies and plenty of extra ammo for both guns. This isnt even mention the other crap ton of gear i found that I switched for what I had when I died. This was all from 1 server just looting from elektro where I spawned and ended up at balota. If anything i find loot to be more common, my second post patch character is already fairly geared with only about 30 mins on him.

Edited September 21, 2014 by Sirwarriant12

[BugZ (DayZ) 49]

Im all for the extreme rarity of guns and ammo.  Bring it.

So what about person who cant spend wholeday on game ? I cant spend long hours just for rare gun but there is someone who can do it. example: You wıll get powerfull guns just because you have time and luck then dominating server or area. This is not fair. Wrost thing is searching for rare gun doesnt requare any skill everything completely depends on luck. This is not right !!! I think desing of this game completely wrong.

Edited September 21, 2014 by BugZ

[Bororm 1156]

So what about person who cant spend wholeday on game ? I cant spend long hours just for rare gun but there is someone who can do it. example: You wıll get powerfull guns just because you have time and luck then dominating server or area. This is not fair. Wrost thing is searching for rare gun doesnt requare any skill everything completely depends on luck. This is not right !!

 

All the guns can kill.  You can even knock a guy out.  No one's going to "dominate the server or area" just because they have a "better" gun.  This game's combat is more about making the best use of your weapon in terms of positioning etc than what the weapon itself actually is.

[gibonez 3633]

Honestly it still feels extremely high in loot.

 

More importantly food needs to be made far harder to find canned food in particular should be really rare forcing people to use the environment for food.

 

 

So what about person who cant spend wholeday on game ? I cant spend long hours just for rare gun but there is someone who can do it. example: You wıll get powerfull guns just because you have time and luck then dominating server or area. This is not fair. Wrost thing is searching for rare gun doesnt requare any skill everything completely depends on luck. This is not right !!! I think desing of this game completely wrong.

 

Then you are shit out of luck ?

 

The game should not be built with the casual gamer in mind or with a specific time table of game time.

 

The game should be brutal for everyone regardless of how much time they are willing to or can put in.

Edited September 21, 2014 by gibonez

[Zombie Milkman 167]

Honestly it still feels extremely high in loot.

 

More importantly food needs to be made far harder to find canned food in particular should be really rare forcing people to use the environment for food.

 

 

 

Then you are shit out of luck ?

 

The game should not be built with the casual gamer in mind or with a specific time table of game time.

 

The game should be brutal for everyone regardless of how much time they are willing to or can put in.

 

The game itself needs to cater to everyone, and allow itself flexible servers to accommodate different groups.  You can build a server strictly for casual short time players.  You can build a server that caters to people here 24/7 who are hardcore killing nuts, CODers, role players, everyone really.

 

There is no reason why we all can't get what we want, and thus end the bickering about, "Oh well that's YOUR opinion about how this game should be played" garbage arguments.  I hope they design this game so the servers themselves offer variety for everyone.

 

Bean-me if you agree.

[hells high 676]

So what about person who cant spend wholeday on game ? I cant spend long hours just for rare gun but there is someone who can do it. example: You wıll get powerfull guns just because you have time and luck then dominating server or area. This is not fair. Wrost thing is searching for rare gun doesnt requare any skill everything completely depends on luck. This is not right !!! I think desing of this game completely wrong.

 

Maybe this isn't the game for you? There are plenty of mods for ARMA 2 and 3 that want you to jump in with piles of guns and go crazy shooting everyone.

[gibonez 3633]

The game itself needs to cater to everyone, and allow itself flexible servers to accommodate different groups.  You can build a server strictly for casual short time players.  You can build a server that caters to people here 24/7 who are hardcore killing nuts, CODers, role players, everyone really.

 

There is no reason why we all can't get what we want, and thus end the bickering about, "Oh well that's YOUR opinion about how this game should be played" garbage arguments.  I hope they design this game so the servers themselves offer variety for everyone.

 

Bean-me if you agree.

 

Not when high loot directly affects those who want a true survival game.

 

There is a certain point where extreme loot just turns dayz into wasteland.

[BugZ (DayZ) 49]

All the guns can kill.  You can even knock a guy out.  No one's going to "dominate the server or area" just because they have a "better" gun.  This game's combat is more about making the best use of your weapon in terms of positioning etc than what the weapon itself actually is.

Its depends on rarity I dont know how wıll be in future but even if blaze or shotgun wıll going to be rare? You dont expect me to take down heavly armed clans with axe or crafted bow ?

[ChainReactor 922]

More importantly food needs to be made far harder to find canned food in particular should be really rare forcing people to use the environment for food.

 

Food balancing is a very fine line though. If you nerf canned foods, then freshspawns need an alternative to picking berries and apples, as both are highly uneffective in results and nutritional value. I remember i starved many times in exp 0.48 when there was really no loot except shoes and hats in a large circle around the spawnpoints.

 

The current problem with food alternatives such as hunting or fishing is that they are relatively item-heavy. If you run around hungry with only 4 slots in your inventory and no gun or any melee weapon better than a shovel, stuff gets really hard. A medium geared player has way less problems to find alternatives to canned food, but its very annoying when you can't get a character going beyond freshspawn phase bcs food is to scarce.

 

On a sidenote: With that problem in mind, i've read the thread title, thought i could agree here, only to find out that the OP was about an AKM. An AKM !

Edited September 21, 2014 by ChainReactor

[Zombie Milkman 167]

Not when high loot directly affects those who want a true survival game.

 

There is a certain point where extreme loot just turns dayz into wasteland.

 

Why?  If I had the time and desire to make a server I would, and that server would have the following conditions:

 

All loot: LOW

Weather: Brutal

Zeds: BILLIONS

 

So lets say that appeals to you, then join my server regularly.  But what if it doesn't?  What if you want an FPS with no zeds and lots of loot?  Join a server that caters to that.

 

Does that clarify my idea at all?  We can all get what we want unless you want every single server to cater to only your play style.  Not to be a rick, but that would be kinda selfish, no?  And understand, I think my play style matches yours fairly closely.  I love the survival element and the scrounging and all those lovely OCD elements because I have DayZ OCD xD.

 

But I would never desire to force my version of happy on everyone else.  This game can offer flexibility in play options between the hundred or so servers that are out there.  They should do that so we all get what we like.  Remember, the longevity of this game is dependent on market appeal.  Keep the money pouring in by making a versatile piece of software.  The versatility is a reason alone to buy it. 

Edited September 21, 2014 by Zombie Milkman

[Count_Blackula (DayZ) 39]

Ugh.. It's such a shame to see what the DayZ community has turned in to. A bunch of care-bears who want every single aspect of the game simplified and made easy for them. You think AKMs are rare now? Fuck that they should be even rarer.  The devs should aim to balance weapons in a similar way to how they were balanced when the mod was first released. I remember finding an M4 in a deer-stand back in the days and it was like Christmas, I didn't go near a town for days because I was terrified of losing it.

 

Now that 2.5 million people have bought in to it we've had a massive influx of these god damned cursed people who think the glory days of loot balance was when the fucking SA was released and there were M4s in every other fucking outhouse. God it makes me so disappointed and I hope to God the devs completely ignore the masses with regards to loot balancing. There should be 1 civilian class long firearm (Mosin, CR-527) per moderate sized town (Chernaya Polana) on average and a trip to a military base should not be a guaranteed full camo suit and AKM with 5 full magazines. That'd be a good start in the endeavour of seperating the boys from the men. Go and play the mod for DayZ mod 'DayZero' if you want a schooling in loot balancing.

 

Sorry for ranting and raving but coming on to the official DayZ mod forum, opening a topic like this and seeing that probably the majority of players are in favour of more firearms just incenses me as an original DayZ mod player and DayZ fanatic. You see similar comments on Reddit as well all of the time. Get a fucking grip people, this is a fricking survival game for Christ's sake.

Edited September 30, 2014 by Count_Blackula

[gibonez 3633]

Why?  If I had the time and desire to make a server I would, and that server would have the following conditions:

 

All loot: LOW

Weather: Brutal

Zeds: BILLIONS

 

So lets say that appeals to you, then join my server regularly.  But what if it doesn't?  What if you want an FPS with no zeds and lots of loot?  Join a server that caters to that.

 

Does that clarify my idea at all?  We can all get what we want unless you want every single server to cater to only your play style.  Not to be a rick, but that would be kinda selfish, no?  And understand, I think my play style matches yours fairly closely.  I love the survival element and the scrounging and all those lovely OCD elements because I have DayZ OCD xD.

 

But I would never desire to force my version of happy on everyone else.  This game can offer flexibility in play options between the hundred or so servers that are out there.  They should do that so we all get what we like.  Remember, the longevity of this game is dependent on market appeal.  Keep the money pouring in by making a versatile piece of software.  The versatility is a reason alone to buy it. 

 

Once private hives happen that are not connected to the hive I see no problem with this.

[James Hawke 114]

I just went through the Vybor military base and came out with an AKM, a drum mag and two 30 round mags. Additionally I have a 30 round aftermarket mag and 40 rounds of spare ammo. Hell I don't even know what to do with that stuff...

[The Aquatic Land Walrus 565]

I find it much easier to find AKMs since the new update.

 

No idea what you are going on about.

 

Ammo for them however is Slightly more rare, now instead of having 6 drum mags, I only have 5

 

*gasp*

 

Just wait in 2 weeks time once the New loot system kicks in guns should be non-existant.

New loot system? Great. Another way to make anyone except the hardcore players not ever find anything.

[leviski 2152]

New loot system? Great. Another way to make anyone except the hardcore players not ever find anything.

New Loot System is already into play, It will slowly remove items that alot of players pick up from the spawn tables.

 

Im seeing it already effecting my gameplay, I cant find 7.62x39 as easily as I did the first day .49 went live.