Which is better?

[Jaynelka 0]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask or not but can someone please tell me which of these is better.... This http://www.custompc....pc-112045-p.asp or this http://www.argos.ie/...rs|14419114.htm

By the way on the first PC the GPU would be Dual crossfire boost with radeon 6570

Edited September 9, 2014 by Jaynelka

[chepaco3290 59]

I personally just won't buy AMD anymore. I'm not trying to start an AMD vs Intel debate, but I owned an AMD gaming computer with an ATI Radeon and it just did not function as fast as you think the specs should. A 3.7ghz quad core AMD processor won't perform as efficiently as its Intel counterpart. Try looking into an Intel i7 with a Nvidia graphics card. 

Edited September 9, 2014 by Chepaco

[bonesnap 75]

I think AMD is leading the better graphics cards in terms of value for your dollar at the moment, and Intel is leading CPU's in terms of value per dollar.

 

This PC would blow both of those PC's out of the water in terms of overall performance, for roughly the same price I believe: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8927525&CatId=114

 

Same processor, 8 GB ram, 1 TB harddrive, however the big thing here is the R7 260x video card.

 

If you look at videocard benchmarks (these are not gaming benchmarks, they are 3d graphics processing benchmarks, but still give you a general idea of the performance) you will see the 260x card waay ahead of the other cards listed.

 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

 

HD 8670D - Passmark G3D Mark (higher is better) - 794

HD 6570 - Passmark G3D Mark (higher is better) - 753 (so crossfire of these would be) x2 = 1506

R7 260X - Passmark G3D Mark (higher is better) - 3041

 

The 260x card is leaps and bounds ahead in terms of performance.

 

Tell me where you're shipping to and I can maybe do a bit of research for you to find a pre-built desktop with the best specs for your dollar.

 

The HD 8670D is an APU (CPU+GPU combined) and isn't too great for gaming. The HD 6570 is a low end graphics card as well. The R7 260X, though, is a medium/upper-end dedicated graphics card.

 

It would be ideal to get an Intel Core i5/i7 CPU with an AMD 200X-series graphics card at this time, but finding that combination might be a bit difficult. It may exist though.

 

source: I'm a computer tech :p

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[Jaynelka 0]

I think AMD is leading the better graphics cards in terms of value for your dollar at the moment, and Intel is leading CPU's in terms of value per dollar.

 

This PC would blow both of those PC's out of the water in terms of overall performance, for roughly the same price I believe: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8927525&CatId=114

 

Same processor, 8 GB ram, 1 TB harddrive, however the big thing here is the R7 260x video card.

 

If you look at videocard benchmarks (these are not gaming benchmarks, they are 3d graphics processing benchmarks, but still give you a general idea of the performance) you will see the 260x card waay ahead of the other cards listed.

 

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

 

HD 8670D - Passmark G3D Mark (higher is better) - 794

HD 6570 - Passmark G3D Mark (higher is better) - 753 (so crossfire of these would be) x2 = 1506

R7 260X - Passmark G3D Mark (higher is better) - 3041

 

The 260x card is leaps and bounds ahead in terms of performance.

 

Tell me where you're shipping to and I can maybe do a bit of research for you to find a pre-built desktop with the best specs for your dollar.

 

The HD 8670D is an APU (CPU+GPU combined) and isn't too great for gaming. The HD 6570 is a low end graphics card as well. The R7 260X, though, is a medium/upper-end dedicated graphics card.

 

It would be ideal to get an Intel Core i5/i7 CPU with an AMD 200X-series graphics card at this time, but finding that combination might be a bit difficult. It may exist though.

 

source: I'm a computer tech :P

Thanks so much mate, I'm in Ireland. I'm clueless when it comes to PC's but I really want to get one. I want to get one that is good value for money etc. Thanks so much you have been very helpful. I'd be very greatful is you can find a good PC that could be delivered to Ireland.

[bonesnap 75]

What is your price range you are willing to spend?

 

Im bored at work (no calls = no work to do) so not a problem at all to help out. As a child my father always got PC's with great CPU's but terrible GPU's so I cannot wish the same upon anyone lol.

 

I found a few online pc stores located in Ireland (dabs.ie, komplett.ie and elara.ie), read a little online and someone said their motherboard was cheapest from dabs so I'll just checkout dabs for pc's.

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[Jaynelka 0]

What is your price range you are willing to spend?

 

Im bored at work (no calls = no work to do) so not a problem at all to help out. As a child my father always got PC's with great CPU's but terrible GPU's so I cannot wish the same upon anyone lol.

 

I found a few online pc stores located in Ireland (dabs.ie, komplett.ie and elara.ie), read a little online and someone said their motherboard was cheapest from dabs so I'll just checkout dabs for pc's.

I'm trying not to exceed 600euro but if there is one just over 600euro I'm sure I can play that bit extra. Seriously thanks so much, I honestly need all the help I can get with this kind of thing haha.

[gibonez 3633]

I personally just won't buy AMD anymore. I'm not trying to start an AMD vs Intel debate, but I owned an AMD gaming computer with an ATI Radeon and it just did not function as fast as you think the specs should. A 3.7ghz quad core AMD processor won't perform as efficiently as its Intel counterpart. Try looking into an Intel i7 with a Nvidia graphics card. 

 

Sadly the Cpu market has stagnated not only for amd but also intel.

 

As far as GPUs go however, AMD has Nvidia beat when it comes to price to performance ratio.

 

Their r9 lineup was fantastic for AMD. Nvidia really needs to stop trying to price gouge its customers and try to beat AMD in the bang for your buck category.

[bonesnap 75]

For some reason the choices are pretty limited from the 4 ireland pc websites I've checked. And you really don't wanna drop $50-100 on shipping from another country either, so this is basically the best contender I've found.

 

http://www.dabs.ie/products/pc-specialist-fusion-dominator-amd-fx-4350-8gb-ram-2tb-hdd-radeon-r7-260x-2gb-win-8-1-64-bit-9GYB.html?catid=15030&src=2

 

AMD FX-4350 (4.3GHz)

2GB AMD Radeon R7 260X Graphics Card

8GB Kingston HyperX FURY RAM

2TB Hard Drive

 

A little over budget (€692.99) but it's the best I could find. Literally couldn't find any of the latest series (r9) graphics cards except this one.

Though it does have an AMD CPU, it's not that bad, see this for reference:

 

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/447/AMD_FX-Series_FX-4350_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770K.html

 

1:1.38 (AMD vs Intel) ratio overall performance
$122 vs $339 (US dollars)

 

So the AMD cpu isn't much worse for being about 1/3 the price.

 

Good value for the dollar with the amd cpu at least. I don't think DayZ likes AMD CPU's too much atm, but then again it isn't optimized much and everyone has issues with framerates, even on $2,000+ rigs I hear.

 

edit: Damnit just noticed the 260x is an r7, not r9 card. A generation or two old. Hmm might need to look at other stuff again lol.

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[bonesnap 75]

Alright, I found 3 other decent rigs:

 

1. http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6100-6x3-3ghz-geforce-gtx660-4gb-ram-500gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/11874065-a.html

2. http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-radeon-hd7850-4gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu/11874054-a.html

3. http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-geforce-gtx760-8gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/22136755-a.html

 

#3 is slightly over your budget, but is probably the best setup by far. For $75 over your budget (not including taxes), you get 4 gb more ram, and a better videocard.

The GTX 760 is about 28% better overall vs the radeon hd 7850.

 

Couple useful links comparing the two videocards (in the second link you can see framerates for some current games: Battlefield 3 maxed out at 1080p runs at about 108 FPS on the GTX 760, though they didn't specify the rest of the computer specs)

 

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=882&gid2=676&compare=geforce-gtx-760-vs-radeon-hd-7850

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/778?vs=854

 

Personally I'd save the extra hundred bucks and get #3. A little goes a long way if you plan on using that pc for the next 4-6 years like most people do, including myself.

 

edit: #3 also has a decent cpu compared to the rig I listed with the AMD FX-4350 (4.3GHz) processor. The FX-6300 is slower clocked (3.5GHz), but is 6-core, not 4-core.

 

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-FX-4350

 

If anyone can find a better setup around 500-700 euros feel free, but this was the best I could find.

 

I punched in late for work from my lunchbreak since I spaced out, so I hope you appreciate all this research, lol. Cheers.

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[Jaynelka 0]

Alright, I found 3 other decent rigs:

 

1. http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6100-6x3-3ghz-geforce-gtx660-4gb-ram-500gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/11874065-a.html

2. http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-radeon-hd7850-4gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu/11874054-a.html

3. http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-geforce-gtx760-8gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/22136755-a.html

 

#3 is slightly over your budget, but is probably the best setup by far. For $75 over your budget (not including taxes), you get 4 gb more ram, and a better videocard.

The GTX 760 is about 28% better overall vs the radeon hd 7850.

 

Couple useful links comparing the two videocards (in the second link you can see framerates for some current games: Battlefield 3 maxed out at 1080p runs at about 108 FPS on the GTX 760, though they didn't specify the rest of the computer specs)

 

http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=882&gid2=676&compare=geforce-gtx-760-vs-radeon-hd-7850

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/778?vs=854

 

Personally I'd save the extra hundred bucks and get #3. A little goes a long way if you plan on using that pc for the next 4-6 years like most people do, including myself.

 

edit: #3 also has a decent cpu compared to the rig I listed with the AMD FX-4350 (4.3GHz) processor. The FX-6300 is slow clocked (3.5GHz), but is 6-core, not 4-core.

 

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-FX-6300-vs-AMD-FX-4350

 

I punched in late for work since I spaced out, so I hope you appreciate all this research, lol. Cheers.

Thanks so much man, I really appreciate it.

[bonesnap 75]

Also for what it's worth, I think the #3 rig I listed with the GTX 760 card should be able to play dayz on medium-high if not near-max settings (once the game is optimized properly, of course).

 

No problem dude.

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[bonesnap 75]

Looking back on the original pc's you listed, for yeah about 150 euros more, you get a graphics card roughly 6x more powerful (according to the Passmark G3D benchmarks anyways), and a slightly better CPU.

 

I guess those GTX 760's are pretty beastly. Apparently 2 of those in SLI outperforms an Nvidia Titan, lol.

 

I would just hate to see someone drop almost a grand on a PC and it would have a joke for a videocard. Enjoy your new rig, and maybe see you on DayZ in the near-future!

 

edit: You can add me if you want. I don't play DayZ too often, but I go by the name dizz in-game. My steam account name is Mariweed. Never hurts to have a bigger crew to roll with B)

 

2nd edit: Hope you're reading this, because I just noticed that pc doesn't come with an Operating System. There's always a catch when you find the best deal XD

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[soulfirez 901]

Looking back on the original pc's you listed, for yeah about 150 euros more, you get a graphics card roughly 6x more powerful (according to the Passmark G3D benchmarks anyways), and a slightly better CPU.

 

I guess those GTX 760's are pretty beastly. Apparently 2 of those in SLI outperforms an Nvidia Titan, lol.

 

I would just hate to see someone drop almost a grand on a PC and it would have a joke for a videocard. Enjoy your new rig, and maybe see you on DayZ in the near-future!

Strange you bagged out nvidea saying amd was better bang for buck ( which they are at certain price points but there is a little trade off between them with nvidea winning at some price levels. ) And then choose at the end as your prefered rig one that has a gtx 760(which is a great lower cost card)

 

2 gtx 760s will out perform a titan black (when the game has a sli profile) its the reason why the GTX760 Mars card was made (its a 2 gpu card 2 760's obviously) comes in just under the price of a 780ti. Its usually handy if a tech guy keeps abreast of current tech....

[bonesnap 75]

Yeah, my bad. The best bang for the buck fluctuates so often. Even at certain price points AMD can be better here, and Nvidia better there.

 

It's ironic that the best rig I could find at that price point was the opposite of the what I thought was best price/performance brand for the specified computer part.

 

To be honest Ireland pc stores seem very limited. At the same time you don't want to pay $50-100+ bucks on shipping from far away though.

 

Personally I go to www.tomshardware.com and find their roundups for best price/performance of CPU's and GPU's for the month. That site is great.

 

Most useful info right here if anyone is looking to build their own computer:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

 

When you buy a premade PC though, you can't be as picky as you'd like to be. :(

Edited September 9, 2014 by bonesnap

[Jaynelka 0]

Looking back on the original pc's you listed, for yeah about 150 euros more, you get a graphics card roughly 6x more powerful (according to the Passmark G3D benchmarks anyways), and a slightly better CPU.

 

I guess those GTX 760's are pretty beastly. Apparently 2 of those in SLI outperforms an Nvidia Titan, lol.

 

I would just hate to see someone drop almost a grand on a PC and it would have a joke for a videocard. Enjoy your new rig, and maybe see you on DayZ in the near-future!

 

edit: You can add me if you want. I don't play DayZ too often, but I go by the name dizz in-game. My steam account name is Mariweed. Never hurts to have a bigger crew to roll with B)

 

2nd edit: Hope you're reading this, because I just noticed that pc doesn't come with an Operating System. There's always a catch when you find the best deal XD

I was offline until now so I only seen your post now. Damn no operating system, I hadn't noticed that, thankfully you pointed that out. You're right there always seems to be a catch and that's why people like me need help from people like yourself because you know what you're talking about and won't get caught out. If you have the time could you check the UK stores because the cost of shipping to Ireland from UK isn't too much usually. If you can't then that's fine, I'm greatful for the time and help you've already given me. I'll add you when I get the new PC etc. I'm new so I'l be absolutely terrible at first haha :D (I'll have to learn the controls)

[bonesnap 75]

1. http://www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Next+Day+Gaming+PCs/GLADIATOR+GTX+760+FX-8350+4.0GHz+8x+Core+Next+Day+Gaming+PC+?productId=59318

 

2. http://www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/novatechblacknti126.html

 

If these sites ship to Ireland, definitely go this route. The #1 link I listed is actually better than the pixmania pc I listed earlier in this thread. This one has better CPU and double the size of harddrive, and is still somehow 50 euros cheaper (and if the "free delivery" is not available for Ireland, that 50 euros saved can go towards shipping). All other specs are the same (8 gb ram, gtx 760, etc).

 

Adding an OS would be another 70 euros roughly though.

 

The #2 link I listed is 95 euros more, but has a better CPU (4th gen core i5), better graphics card (r9 280x) and a 120GB solid state harddrive on top of the existing 2TB harddrive. If you can save some extra pennies, these all add up pretty quick and would future proof you're pc for the games coming out in the future. Once again, no OS so you'd have to tack that on the price as well.

 

Personally I'd try to save the extra hundred bucks for an overall better PC if you can stretch that budget a bit, since combined better CPU, GPU and HD would result in a pretty beast pc. My 4 years old PC has a solidstate harddrive and you can really feel the difference in basic tasks. It boots up in like 6 seconds flat lol. No joke.

 

If you can't, well, the other gtx 760 pc is still pretty great. Cheers bro.

[soulfirez 901]

I have to ask why not build it yourself ?? you will save money get exactly what you want in the rig. Honestly its not hard at all to do (its not like back in my day with slave drives etc) its pretty simple with sata plugs in 1 way , only slightly tricky part is the front panel connectors and for that refer to the large diagram on the motherboard manual.

 

A little research to figure what parts work best with what (or ask your tech friend bonesnap i am sure he can tell you mobos dims of memory with the proper xmp profiles etc so everything will be optimised)

In the end you will love that rig because you built it ( i still have the first pc i put together 18 years ago and yes it runs but by todays standards its a large calculator lol )Just being able to choose your own case makes a big difference cause your going to have to look at it( maybe you like flashing led's maybe you dont if you build it yourself you can choose.

 

Honestly go to youtube and search build pc you will be greated by dozens of indepth videos watch one( from recent times) and you will go huh that doesnt look so hard becausee these days it isnt ( well unless you want to make custom water loops etc id save that for your second rig lol.)

Edited September 10, 2014 by SoulFirez

[Jaynelka 0]

I have to ask why not build it yourself ?? you will save money get exactly what you want in the rig. Honestly its not hard at all to do (its not like back in my day with slave drives etc) its pretty simple with sata plugs in 1 way , only slightly tricky part is the front panel connectors and for that refer to the large diagram on the motherboard manual.

 

A little research to figure what parts work best with what (or ask your tech friend bonesnap i am sure he can tell you mobos dims of memory with the proper xmp profiles etc so everything will be optimised)

In the end you will love that rig because you built it ( i still have the first pc i put together 18 years ago and yes it runs but by todays standards its a large calculator lol )Just being able to choose your own case makes a big difference cause your going to have to look at it( maybe you like flashing led's maybe you dont if you build it yourself you can choose.

 

Honestly go to youtube and search build pc you will be greated by dozens of indepth videos watch one( from recent times) and you will go huh that doesnt look so hard becausee these days it isnt ( well unless you want to make custom water loops etc id save that for your second rig lol.)

I have thought about trying to build one myself but I've no experience with PC's and despite hearing that it's quite easy to build one, I also read that a few people tried to make their own PC and messed it up and ended up somehow breaking a certain part. I don't want to spend that much money and end up breaking it before I can even get it working. I'd probably rather spend that bit extra instead of attempting to build my own and failing. Too much of a risk with that amount of money for someone so inexperienced with this sort of stuff like myself.

[soulfirez 901]

I have thought about trying to build one myself but I've no experience with PC's and despite hearing that it's quite easy to build one, I also read that a few people tried to make their own PC and messed it up and ended up somehow breaking a certain part. I don't want to spend that much money and end up breaking it before I can even get it working. I'd probably rather spend that bit extra instead of attempting to build my own and failing. Too much of a risk with that amount of money for someone so inexperienced with this sort of stuff like myself.

Fair enough id still watch a couple youtube videos it may change your mind and really for damaging it pretty hard to do except putting the cpu  in (zero force make sure you have it in the right way which they have triangles marking them and notches to in the case of intel) other than that its look at the plugs see which way up it plugs in push it in ,look at the slot in the ram match it to dim slots plug it in.( i know it may seem scary at first but they have made it damn near impossible to mess anything up (apart from the cpu just dont touch the under side of cpu or the connectors on the motherboard and your golden.

 

But hey i respect your choice to buy pre made but you will be surprised how much you actually save doing it yourself(its not just the build fee they charge more for the parts in the pc too so they can make there money in many cases/not all though.

 

I only worry because your going to have it shipped and well pc's generally dont like to be handled roughly lol if it gets bumped to hard in transport things have been known to come loose(usually the graphics card which often results in the thing not booting at all easily fixed but if your unfamilar can be hard to diagnose. But hey hopefully transport guys there arent as rough as they are in Australia lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsyxM_j3Y4U

Watch that 11 min video if you dont walk away thinking that looks easy as ill be shocked...

Edited September 10, 2014 by SoulFirez

[haknslash 763]

Build it yourself. It's not hard. Take your time, read up and it's a fairly simple process with some common sense being applied along the way. You don't have to be some techno geek computer freak to build a PC man. You will save money, get the machine with exactly the hardware you're looking given your budget and you'll be able to pat yourself on the back when you're done. You also learn a good deal about what to look for when troubleshooting should a problem arise versus buying some prebuild machine only to have it turn up DOA at your door step.

Edited September 10, 2014 by haknslash

[Jaynelka 0]

Fair enough id still watch a couple youtube videos it may change your mind and really for damaging it pretty hard to do except putting the cpu  in (zero force make sure you have it in the right way which they have triangles marking them and notches to in the case of intel) other than that its look at the plugs see which way up it plugs in push it in ,look at the slot in the ram match it to dim slots plug it in.( i know it may seem scary at first but they have made it damn near impossible to mess anything up (apart from the cpu just dont touch the under side of cpu or the connectors on the motherboard and your golden.

 

But hey i respect your choice to buy pre made but you will be surprised how much you actually save doing it yourself(its not just the build fee they charge more for the parts in the pc too so they can make there money in many cases/not all though.

 

I only worry because your going to have it shipped and well pc's generally dont like to be handled roughly lol if it gets bumped to hard in transport things have been known to come loose(usually the graphics card which often results in the thing not booting at all easily fixed but if your unfamilar can be hard to diagnose. But hey hopefully transport guys there arent as rough as they are in Australia lol.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsyxM_j3Y4U

Watch that 11 min video if you dont walk away thinking that looks easy as ill be shocked...

After watching that video it does tempt me to try build my own PC. It does look a lot easier than I thought. If I was to build a PC like this how much money would I save http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-geforce-gtx760-8gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/22136755-a.html have you any idea? I still think I'd somehow find a way to mess it up, because I find a way to mess everything up somehow. But I have to say I'm a lot more tempted to try it.

[Jaynelka 0]

Build it yourself. It's not hard. Take your time, read up and it's a fairly simple process with some common sense being applied along the way. You don't have to be some techno geek computer freak to build a PC man. You will save money, get the machine with exactly the hardware you're looking given your budget and you'll be able to pat yourself on the back when you're done. You also learn a good deal about what to look for when troubleshooting should a problem arise versus buying some prebuild machine only to have it turn up DOA at your door step.

I'm very tempted to give it a go, but I don't know much about computer specs so I could get some that aren't too good. Any idea how much I'd save if I were to build a PC like this ? http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-geforce-gtx760-8gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/22136755-a.html

[soulfirez 901]

After watching that video it does tempt me to try build my own PC. It does look a lot easier than I thought. If I was to build a PC like this how much money would I save http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-geforce-gtx760-8gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/22136755-a.html have you any idea? I still think I'd somehow find a way to mess it up, because I find a way to mess everything up somehow. But I have to say I'm a lot more tempted to try it.

Well i dont know the best place to buy pc parts in ireland but the first place i looked was called CPI (computer parts ireland )and cost for that build with a different mobo and case(same quality they just didnt have the same parts and this is not including operating system like the link of pc you gave it came to 592 pounds so saving you 90 odd pounds..

[haknslash 763]

I'm very tempted to give it a go, but I don't know much about computer specs so I could get some that aren't too good. Any idea how much I'd save if I were to build a PC like this ? http://www.pixmania.ie/desktop-computer/sedatech-pc-gamer-expert-amd-fx-6300-6x3-5ghz-geforce-gtx760-8gb-ram-1000gb-usb-3-0-full-hd-1080p-80-psu-cardreader/22136755-a.html

Even if you buy a prebuilt PC you need to know what you're actually buying. So that means doing some research on the hardware, read some reviews, watch some videos, etc. PC gaming is not something you just want to jump blindly into. You need to get the most bang for your buck and the only way to do that is to do some research. People can post specs and opinions all day long but if it's falling on deaf ears what good is it to you in helping make a good decision based off your needs and budget? It took me over a month or two of reading tons of reviews, complaints, specs, etc to know which hardware was for me. You've waited this long might as well wait a little longer and read up on the hardware and get some sort of understanding for what you're buying. Just trying to be honest because PC hardware depreciates and it's important you get the most bang for your buck and not waste money on a setup that might have crap you don't need or not exactly what you're looking for. Just my .02

[bonesnap 75]

I'll repost the links I posted on page 1.

 

Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: August 2014

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106.html

 

Best Graphics Cards For The Money: August 2014

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

 

Useful stuff. BTW, we're still in mid-September so there are not monthly reviews for September 2014 yet.

Edited September 10, 2014 by bonesnap