Balota Military Camp Moving to New Location! [SenChi Tweet]

[Katana67 2907]

 

My money is on the extreme NW corner of the map, where they've made a clearing in the woods. Good as any one else's guess.

 

This seems somewhat odd to me, as Balota's placement was fine (in my opinion, even though I can count on one hand how many times I've been there) as it was on the north-south axis in the west where the high-value loot locations have been placed (running from Balota, to Pavlovo, to Zelenogorsk/Green Mountain, to Dichina/Veresnik, to NWAF).

Edited August 23, 2014 by Katana67

[Forrelist 236]

I'll guess near the center of the map. probably close to the new Major city getting added.

[Katana67 2907]

I'll guess near the center of the map. probably close to the new Major city getting added.

 

I do think there should be a kind of mid-range military Stary Sobor analog again. Hey, maybe they'll move the tents back to Stary! /grumbles

 

But I'm not sure I'd want it near the new cities. They're already pretty good for loot.

 

That, and there's something to be said for the fact that mid-range police/military loot has become more diffuse anyhow. With a police station in every other town, and UAZ/truck wrecks now spawning AK-101s, Gorka clothing, and ammunition.

[hombrecz 832]

Balota was too good anyway. Isn't it almost better than NWA? Well NWA has lots of hangars, 2x camo building. but Balota has 1 more barracks (if I remember well) and both have a lot of tents.

 

So yes, I'm glad if they remove all that military buildings away from Balota and keep it civilian airfield.

 

Btw I believe AK's will spawn less once there is more weapons to be placed around the spawn points.

 

EDIT: I also hope this can mean we will get spawn points changed as not to be only in north east. This could help to spread folks around the map more and lessen the Berezino clusterf*** of deathmatch.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Hombre

[Tatanko 5591]

So yes, I'm glad if they remove all that military buildings away from Balota and keep it civilian airfield.

I don't think it needs to be completely stripped (leave the hangars, obviously, and keep the prison building as well), but they should move the entirety of the tent camp itself in my opinion. I'd like to see it somewhere other than the West, as I feel there is enough out that way already. I also think it's too close to the base near Pavlovo currently.

 

 

My money is on the extreme NW corner of the map, where they've made a clearing in the woods. Good as any one else's guess.

 

Could be! I check that location every time a new build is released.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Tatanko

[Etherious 907]

Balota was too good and easy to get too. I think it's great that they are moving things around. :D 

[kakysas666 191]

well if they move Balota to somewhere else then we can expect Electro and all South coast spawns coming back. I think it was amazing that Berezino is a cheater clusterfuck, it contained them in one place so that users who don't want to deal with these cheating (mostly american and russian) kids coulds have normal PVP all across the map. Now the cheaters may travel a little bit more, and noticing a ESP hacker is much harder than someone who can teleport.

[Katana67 2907]

well if they move Balota to somewhere else then we can expect Electro and all South coast spawns coming back.

 

But even so, the Pavlovo barracks are pretty damn close to the coast. So I doubt we'll see southerly coast spawns returning. Not to mention that the developers have said that they intend on having folks spawn on the eastern coast.

 

Not sure what cheating has to do with anything being discussed, but cool.

 

 

Balota was too good and easy to get too. I think it's great that they are moving things around. :D

 

Meh, in the mod maybe. But now, with people spawning only around Berezino/Svetlo... it's the longest hike (as the crow flies) out of any high-value location, besides perhaps Pavlovo.

 

And even if they had folks spawning as far south as Skalisty, it'd still be roughly equidistant as a hike from Berezino to NWAF. But you'd have to negotiate two large cities, Cherno and Elektro (which could be filled with other players and zombies). So, I actually think as of now at the very least... Balota is the most out-of-the-way high-value location.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Katana67

[Etherious 907]

But even so, the Pavlovo barracks are pretty damn close to the coast. So I doubt we'll see southerly coast spawns returning. Not to mention that the developers have said that they intend on having folks spawn on the eastern coast.

 

Not sure what cheating has to do with anything being discussed, but cool.

 

 

 

Meh, in the mod maybe. But now, with people spawning only around Berezino/Svetlo... it's the longest hike (as the crow flies) out of any high-value location, besides perhaps Pavlovo.

 

And even if they had folks spawning as far south as Skalisty, it'd still be roughly equidistant as a hike from Berezino to NWAF. But you'd have to negotiate two large cities, Cherno and Elektro (which could be filled with other players and zombies). So, I actually think as of now at the very least... Balota is the most out-of-the-way high-value location.

Hicks just tweeted about him moving some spawns points to Elektro, Kamyshovo, and Pri..(he didn't finish it). Also, that is true with the current spawn points it is far, but I it's still EASY. It's a literal straight line with streets. xD Plus, it's not hard to go around Elektro and Cherno. :3

[DerrocK (DayZ) 39]

 

My money is on the extreme NW corner of the map, where they've made a clearing in the woods. Good as any one else's guess.

 

This seems somewhat odd to me, as Balota's placement was fine (in my opinion, even though I can count on one hand how many times I've been there) as it was on the north-south axis in the west where the high-value loot locations have been placed (running from Balota, to Pavlovo, to Zelenogorsk/Green Mountain, to Dichina/Veresnik, to NWAF).

 

Maybe they want to reintroduce south coast spawns and don't want fresh spawns to instantly get full gear. That would be good imho

[The Carnivore 12]

I wouldn't mind seeing it on the West of Bay Tikhaya, Near the 'convience store' they have there.

[BugZ (DayZ) 49]

When they remove airstrip there will be empty. How they wıll fill there ? I think  they will fill with trees. Any ideas ?

[Etherious 907]

When they remove airstrip there will be empty. How they wıll fill there ? I think  they will fill with trees. Any ideas ?

I think you're misunderstanding what they are doing. They are moving the Military CAMP, the tent city that is next to the airstrip.

Edited August 23, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet

[Katana67 2907]

Hicks just tweeted about him moving some spawns points to Elektro, Kamyshovo, and Pri..(he didn't finish it). Also, that is true with the current spawn points it is far, but I it's still EASY. It's a literal straight line with streets. xD Plus, it's not hard to go around Elektro and Cherno. :3

 

I saw that.

 

Kamyshovo would be fine with me.

 

Elektrozavodsk is borderline for me, it'd still be an 8 kilometer hike to Pavlovo (whereas Berezino-NWAF is less than 8 kilometers).

 

And Prigorodky is unacceptable to me, a measly 5 kilometer hike to Pavlovo? No way.

 

And I'd agree that it's a straightforward trip from Berezino to Balota (in just following the coast) but I wouldn't say easy. Certainly not any easier than a trip from Berezino to NWAF. You've still got to negotiate two of the largest (if not the largest, I don't know anymore) cities in the game.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Katana67

[Etherious 907]

I saw that.

 

Kamyshovo would be fine with me.

 

Elektrozavodsk is borderline for me, it'd still be an 8 kilometer hike to Pavlovo (whereas Berezino-NWAF is less than 8 kilometers).

 

And Prigorodky is unacceptable to me, a measly 5 kilometer hike to Pavlovo? No way.

 

And I'd agree that it's a straightforward trip from Berezino to Balota (in just following the coast) but I wouldn't say easy. Certainly not any easier than a trip from Berezino to NWAF. You've still got to negotiate two of the largest (if not the largest, I don't know anymore) cities in the game.

Ahhhh Prigorodky! That is the one. Also, I guess it's really just up to ourselves and not a general thing. I personally think that Berezino - Balota is easier than Berezino - NWAF, but ehhh oh well. xD I would not mind the old original mod spawns from back when we could spawn with the Makarovs. Kamenka, Kamyshovo, Komorovo, Cherno, Elektro, and Prigoro spawns are okay with me. :3

[Bororm 1156]

I saw that.

 

Kamyshovo would be fine with me.

 

Elektrozavodsk is borderline for me, it'd still be an 8 kilometer hike to Pavlovo (whereas Berezino-NWAF is less than 8 kilometers).

 

And Prigorodky is unacceptable to me, a measly 5 kilometer hike to Pavlovo? No way.

 

And I'd agree that it's a straightforward trip from Berezino to Balota (in just following the coast) but I wouldn't say easy. Certainly not any easier than a trip from Berezino to NWAF. You've still got to negotiate two of the largest (if not the largest, I don't know anymore) cities in the game.

 

I'd just point out there's dubrovka spawns that are barely over 5km to the nwaf.

 

I find the whole thing weird since they were so adamant about keeping balota how it was, to the point of making a mess of spawns into what we have now, just to basically go back on it all.  I'm happy about it if we do get southern spawns back though.  I think they should keep a sorta set amount of spawn points though, and thus remove some of the other ones (rather see them all return to coastal spawns personally but that's not gonna happen).  Just don't want a shit load of spawn locations or meeting up with friends is going to be a real pain in the ass and lead to even more suiciding.

[Katana67 2907]

I'd just point out there's dubrovka spawns that are barely over 5km to the nwaf.

 

I find the whole thing weird since they were so adamant about keeping balota how it was, to the point of making a mess of spawns into what we have now, just to basically go back on it all.  I'm happy about it if we do get southern spawns back though.  I think they should keep a sorta set amount of spawn points though, and thus remove some of the other ones (rather see them all return to coastal spawns personally but that's not gonna happen).  Just don't want a shit load of spawn locations or meeting up with friends is going to be a real pain in the ass and lead to even more suiciding.

 

Yeah, I don't like the Dubrovka spawns either.

 

I don't really think they're going back on anything, aside from a bit of an overstep with saying that Prigorodky (and, arguably, Elektro) are acceptable spawn locations.

 

But I do think they need to make up their minds.

[Bororm 1156]

I guess they aren't going back on it if they didn't pay attention to all the people telling them that instead of moving spawns, they should have just changed Balota to begin with.  Which is possible since they seem so oblivious to the community on a ton of things.

[Katana67 2907]

I guess they aren't going back on it if they didn't pay attention to all the people telling them that instead of moving spawns, they should have just changed Balota to begin with.  Which is possible since they seem so oblivious to the community on a ton of things.

 

Moving spawns was something that they did to test the east-west axis where they're adding cities. And they can't really have people spawning on the southern coast anymore due to the shift from a high-value loot distribution that didn't really make much sense (i.e. NEAF, Balota, Stary, and NWAF) to a well-defined western "promised land" of high-value loot locations.

 

That and there's also the issue of NEAF as well (which is essentially a northeast mirror of Balota), which was changed. So it's consistent in that regard.

 

I can't speak for what the community wants, because from what I've seen... many people want different things. And even then, I can only speak for myself. There's no monolithic "community" that wants one thing.

[hells high 676]

 

My money is on the extreme NW corner of the map, where they've made a clearing in the woods. Good as any one else's guess.

 

This seems somewhat odd to me, as Balota's placement was fine (in my opinion, even though I can count on one hand how many times I've been there) as it was on the north-south axis in the west where the high-value loot locations have been placed (running from Balota, to Pavlovo, to Zelenogorsk/Green Mountain, to Dichina/Veresnik, to NWAF).

 

With the spawns being moved North East I though the Balota base made a lot of sense where it was, it kinda replaced the NEAF. Also you should really check it out more often. Tons of tents, barracks, a couple camo buildings, and some hangars.

[Dagwood 680]

The map is too heavily weighted on the west side for spawns to be brought back to the south coast. Most likely the camp will be moved to the north west to bring some life to the region north of the NWAF. Balota will still be a high yield location with 3 barracks, 2 hangars, 2 jails, and an ATC.

Hopefully the NWAF will be the largest military installation on the map, with smaller installations to the north and south. Because there are already 4 bases south of NWAF, it would make sense to move one or two north of it. Just my 2 cents.

[Bororm 1156]

Moving spawns was something that they did to test the east-west axis where they're adding cities. And they can't really have people spawning on the southern coast anymore due to the shift from a high-value loot distribution that didn't really make much sense (i.e. NEAF, Balota, Stary, and NWAF) to a well-defined western "promised land" of high-value loot locations.

 

That and there's also the issue of NEAF as well (which is essentially a northeast mirror of Balota), which was changed. So it's consistent in that regard.

 

I can't speak for what the community wants, because from what I've seen... many people want different things. And even then, I can only speak for myself. There's no monolithic "community" that wants one thing.

 

Right, their reasoning on the shift from south to north to east to west was largely because of balota (a lesser extent the other additional military bases near zeleno).  Changing balota, and then reintroducing some of those spawns they removed that were too close qualifies on going back on that decision imo.

 

The community can't agree on anything, but it doesn't mean there weren't people who vocalized that instead of changing spawns they should address the root of the "problem," namely balota.  Whether they ignored that, or never noticed who knows but I know I brought it up directly with rocket once on reddit, but in typical rocket fashion he was clueless to what I was even talking about.  It was a topic of many threads here and elsewhere.  Now they've done just that.

 

It's just one of those "I told you so" type of moments for me, since I did try my best to get it noticed at the time even if it failed.

[Deathlove 2286]

Not sure if im down with them destroying classic locations like that. Why not add something different rather than cut and paste? 

[Ultimoses 110]

Not sure if im down with them destroying classic locations like that. Why not add something different rather than cut and paste? 

 

There's no real place for nostalgia when we want a thought-out map. Besides, when the Devs want a new military camp, it makes damn much sense to take the bases we already have and move them instead of adding even more spots for high-end military loot. I'm totally fine with the changes and looking forward to travel to new locations.

[Deathlove 2286]

There's no real place for nostalgia when we want a thought-out map. Besides, when the Devs want a new military camp, it makes damn much sense to take the bases we already have and move them instead of adding even more spots for high-end military loot. I'm totally fine with the changes and looking forward to travel to new locations.

If thats the case they should have not updated, cut, and copied the map exactly the same way the mod version was laid out in the first place  if they wanted a completely different structure of where prior locations are located. Cherno should have moved inland to to some remote location instead of the coast etc if that was the case.

Edited August 23, 2014 by Deathlove