Bigbadchuck 97 Posted July 11, 2014 I started playing SA about a month ago and have to say I love it. I am by no means a pro yet but have learned to really enjoy sniping. Having died to a snipers bullet many times now I figured I'd give the role a shot. Patience is the best attribute a sniper can have and it does pay off. I try to stay clear of the air fields and instead tend to hunt fire and police stations. I am currently using an AKM scoped with a bipod. Now I don't care what you feel about Kos or anyone's option on what I'm doing but where does the community in general stand on lone snipers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) AKM (Ingame) is not a sniper. :P Edited July 11, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 11, 2014 Killing from distance less then 700 meters is not sniping. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbadchuck 97 Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe not a sniper rifle in the classic sense of a long gun, but it works just fine for medium range engagements. On a side note. Are there any Add ons for the game that don't conflict with the tos that are worth getting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe not a sniper rifle in the classic sense of a long gun, but it works just fine for medium range engagements.On a side note. Are there any Add ons for the game that don't conflict with the tos that are worth getting? Teamspeak. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miki_grom 69 Posted July 11, 2014 Killing from distance less then 700 meters is not sniping.This is my new signature,to piss on all so called "snipers",you Sir have my beans.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foxdie_01 121 Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) SN Killing from distance less then 700 meters is not sniping. Disagree. Killing above 700 meters makes you a marksman.Killing from [any range from] a concealed location makes you a sniper. [edit] Edited July 11, 2014 by foxdie_01 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted July 11, 2014 SN Disagree. Killing above 700 meters makes you a marksman.Killing from a concealed location makes you a sniper. A sniper is a highly trained marksman who operates alone, in a pair, or with a sniper team to maintain close visual contact with the enemy and engage targets from concealed positions or distances exceeding the detection capabilities of enemy personnel. These sniper teams operate independently, with little combat asset support from their parent units. Snipers typically have highly selective and specialized training and use high-precision/special application rifles and optics, and often have sophisticated communication assets to feed valuable combat information back to their units. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper So we both were 50% right I guess 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 11, 2014 Killing from distance less then 700 meters is not sniping.Sniping at any range in dayz is not sniping. It is far too comically easy to snipe in dayz. Even arcade games like battlefield have harder sniping even though it is not realistic. Hyper realistic shooting would fix this though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Ruffles 74 Posted July 11, 2014 Sniping at any range in dayz is not sniping. It is far too comically easy to snipe in dayz.Even arcade games like battlefield have harder sniping even though it is not realistic.Hyper realistic shooting would fix this though.I would say it was easy if this game didn't have ridiculous gun dispersion. Its pretty much impossible to hit a target above 500 M in your first shot, and by the time you make your second shot, the player is most likely already aware if he has his game volume on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kakysas666 191 Posted July 11, 2014 Well, anything above 600 is good, but sniping begins at 700-800 meters. Above 900 is impossible to hit unless target stands still for a minute so you could take at least 5 shots at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgieBest 7 Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) AKM is not a sniper. LOL :P A sniper is a marksman who often operates alone and engages the enemy from concealed locations. Also, distance isn't a defining feature, unless you're a COD fan boy and think that sniping is only about getting head shots from the biggest possible distance. Edited July 11, 2014 by GeorgieBest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted July 11, 2014 Damn, we got some hoopty-ass elitists up in hurr, na mean?I am a sniper. My farthest shot was ~900 or so metres from the top of one of the tall apartments in Chapaevsk to the single barracks door on the Balota airfield.While that was my farthest kill ever, I'm no less proud of much more clutch shots I've made from a third of that distance while being pursued or counter-sniping. I've made some pretty nice shots with a window of maybe one or two seconds as a player crosses an open area in a building of which I have line of sight.I'm not really trying to contribute to a pointless debate, but I feel that a sniper has to make both longer and shorter shots. Some of the shortest shots I've made have been my most challenging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgieBest 7 Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Damn, we got some hoopty-ass elitists up in hurr, na mean?I am a sniper. My farthest shot was ~900 or so metres from the top of one of the tall apartments in Chapaevsk to the single barracks door on the Balota airfield.While that was my farthest kill ever, I'm no less proud of much more clutch shots I've made from a third of that distance while being pursued or counter-sniping. I've made some pretty nice shots with a window of maybe one or two seconds as a player crosses an open area in a building of which I have line of sight.I'm not really trying to contribute to a pointless debate, but I feel that a sniper has to make both longer and shorter shots. Some of the shortest shots I've made have been my most challenging. Agreed, a marksman doesn't care about the distance his target is, the only thing that matters is hitting it. Edited July 11, 2014 by GeorgieBest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grimey Rick 3417 Posted July 11, 2014 Again, a marksmen doesn't care about the distance his target is, the only thing that matters is hitting it.Obviously you can't read as I was defending your position. Also, it's marksmAn.My whole post discussed how distance isn't the defining factor of sniping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiskilleAcronym 43 Posted July 11, 2014 Good for you! You must be a true sniper using that scoped AKM (wink wink) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 11, 2014 I would say it was easy if this game didn't have ridiculous gun dispersion. Its pretty much impossible to hit a target above 500 M in your first shot, and by the time you make your second shot, the player is most likely already aware if he has his game volume on. not the case with the mosin or b95. From my understanding the Mosin actually is far more accurate in game than a real life mosin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bigbadchuck 97 Posted July 11, 2014 Ok so maybe I was wrong. Guess you have to have a long gun and a LRS and only make kill shots at a mile or more to be a sniper. Guess I'll settle for ambush KOS'er. But waiting in cover for someone to come by is still the funest aspect of this game so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insane Ruffles 74 Posted July 11, 2014 not the case with the mosin or b95. From my understanding the Mosin actually is far more accurate in game than a real life mosin.? Mosin accuracy goes up to 1000 M, some even higher. I own a Mosin that was just shipped from Russia a couple of years ago, and that thing is accurate as hell. When I was shooting on a 300 m range, the bullet actually traveled up instead of dropping. Remember, the M44 variant was basically a Mosin that was able to fit a scope, and it was very accurate. Some people go out and buy beat-up Mosins for 100 dollars and then call them PoS rifles. Their stopping power and accuracy is what helped drive the German war machine back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgieBest 7 Posted July 11, 2014 Obviously you can't read as I was defending your position. Also, it's marksmAn.My whole post discussed how distance isn't the defining factor of sniping. No, I was fortifying your point, perhaps I should have said "agreed". Yeah, bad grammar there, sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cullis 7 Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Killing from distance less then 700 meters is not sniping. This game has pretty crap weapon modelling. A random* 70 years old Mosin found.. somewhere, firing the basic machinegun ammo isn't going to provide better accuracy than 2-3 minutes of arc, which translates to 3" dispersion at 100 yards... and almost two feet at 700 meters. *it's not the sniper variant, because that one comes with a PU scope. Mosins are not bad rifles, but they are neither really good, and unless someone is real lucky and gets one with a great barrel, not particularily accurate.. Poor safety design, unsafe bolt design (if the case ruptures, and you're not wearing safety glasses, say goodbye to your eyeball) ..etc. Edited July 11, 2014 by Cullis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 11, 2014 ? Mosin accuracy goes up to 1000 M, some even higher. I own a Mosin that was just shipped from Russia a couple of years ago, and that thing is accurate as hell. When I was shooting on a 300 m range, the bullet actually traveled up instead of dropping. Remember, the M44 variant was basically a Mosin that was able to fit a scope, and it was very accurate. Some people go out and buy beat-up Mosins for 100 dollars and then call them PoS rifles. Their stopping power and accuracy is what helped drive the German war machine back. Range and accuracy are not the same thing. In game the mosin is more accurate than the 5 ish moa a real life mosin is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zombie Milkman 167 Posted July 11, 2014 all I know is, give me an airburst weapon and I make most of you give up sniping for Lent. Kidding aside, this is one of the few games where sniping makes logical and moral sense, provided the survivalist setting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 11, 2014 all I know is, give me an airburst weapon and I make most of you give up sniping for Lent. Kidding aside, this is one of the few games where sniping makes logical and moral sense, provided the survivalist setting.Heh xm25 or the Israeli 40mm version ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Offtopic: I want some more variety in sniping weapons. And if not at least more scope designs and peripherals to go with both new and possibly existing weapons. Although the only gun i can think of even worth of sniper at the moment is the Mosin but the damage i hear is bad at the moment against people. Maybe a nice pair of military range finders for help with snipping distance. We have a huge variety already of close to mid ranged warfare weapons as is anyways. OHh! Also maybe like with the handguns a freaking rifle carry bag would be awesome! Snap one of those things on your back with your pack and your good to go rather than sling it over your arm. Even a back pack with a rifle slot would be nice, Edited July 11, 2014 by Deathlove Share this post Link to post Share on other sites