Very is everyone at?

[Death By Crowbar 1213]

While I agree with your logic for getting off the coast, at the end of the day, the whole point of the game is to kill other players.

100% entirely false. Do not pass go, do not collect $100, straight to jail with you!

[Grimey Rick 3417]

100% entirely false. Do not pass go, do not collect $100, straight to jail with you!

 

You guys keep telling yourself that. Enjoy killing mindless, stupid zombies that offer absolutely zero challenge. I can literally spawn fresh, run The Path of the Warrior, get fully geared, and then sit around twiddling my thumbs all in under two hours. That's on a full server too, as most people tend to gravitate around the coast. There is absolutely no challenge in this game other than PvP. Whether or not you can find other things to do like count the blades of grass between towns, organize "Peace Walks", make a camp fire and tell scary stories to your role-playing friends, or whatever else it is that floats your boat, none of that changes the fact that this game is based 100% on player encounters, which 9 times out of 10 turn sour.

 

Whether it's offensive killing or defensive killing, the backbone of DayZ is the PvP. No one has a memorable zombie encounter beyond their very first confrontation with one. You can literally fight three or more zombies at once with your fists. But I guarantee everyone has multiple memorable fire fights they shared with other players. Most people (myself included) started DayZ with the intent of being a nice survivor, letting other like-minded passersby go on their way while gunning down the occasional "evil-doer". After a few days, this outlook generally dissipates and the player is then just looking to kill everyone they see out of boredom, spite, or contempt.

 

They can add barricading, vehicles, whatever. Unless they come up with some sort of reason for players to co-exist and work toward a common goal, this will never change. Period.

Edited July 8, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[sm00tje 88]

The Path of the Warrior,

 

Well, see you at the zeleno/military base and nwaf!

 

edit: Oh my fault if I misunderstood you. You don't walk the path of the warrior? So you litteraly just hang out on the coast/berenzino/neaf - cause I thought that's where the action is?

Edited July 8, 2014 by sm00tje

[hiniberus 122]

Not everyone plays like me, and not everyone plays like you. To me, your version of this game sounds more boring than watching my constipated dog take a shit after he ate the belt from my wife's housecoat.

 

Quoted for being best post in forums, or at least the only one to make me grin like an idiot.

[infiltrator 275]

Killing another player is for food or weapons he /she might have, not for fun or points

 

You don't get to be the judge of that for anyone but yourself. I kill because I find enjoyment in stalking and subsequently killing people in various ways. I almost never have need for their gear. However I don't go around trying to impose MY playstyle on anyone else, I advise you to do the same.

[hombrecz 832]

As the Title says, where is everyone at? Besides the east coast of course. I have no reason to go more inland at NWAF and balota nowadays considering everybody and all the loot i could ever want is on the east coast. And also, Besides to get an M4 and an AK, is there actually a reason to go inland?

 

I'm currently NW of Pushtoska camped near lonely house.

Me and buddy ended up our own journy as we went  Gorka-Elektro-outskirts of Cherno-Balota-military base north of Kamenka-Zelenogorsk-Green Mountain-Vybor-Pushtoska.

 

Before we logged off, we made campfire, put some cow meat on and talked for a bit.

Cooking took quite a long time and before we realised it, meat was burned and my buddy started to throw burned stakes at me out of frustration.

 

Only thing that was bad on the whole journey was the minimum of player interaction we had.

We saw just 1 dude in Elektro firehouse. He was not talking much and typed some mumbo jumbo in direct so we let him go.

Another dude was server hopper in jailbuilding at Green Mountain, but luckily my buddy dispatched him with AKM switfly.

 

-long post-

 

I agree with majority of what you have written, good post, have beanz!

Edited July 8, 2014 by Hombre

[KingOfTime 267]

I'm outside of zelenogorsk. I roam the west and the north. Also, all of you are wrong. The purpose of Dayz is to find a fucking fishing hook. That is the end game. I have a fully kitted akm, minus drum mag, and everything else I could possibly want except  FUCKING FISHING HOOK. ALL I WANT TO DO IS FISH. WHY DO YOU MOCK ME DAYZ? WEAPONS FOR DAYSS...I COULD ARM EVERY "PREPPER" IN AMERICA AND HAVE ENOUGH GUNS LEFT OVER TO START MY OWN ARMY.

[frosti 2165]

I'm outside of zelenogorsk. I roam the west and the north. Also, all of you are wrong. The purpose of Dayz is to find a fucking fishing hook. That is the end game. I have a fully kitted akm, minus drum mag, and everything else I could possibly want except  FUCKING FISHING HOOK. ALL I WANT TO DO IS FISH. WHY DO YOU MOCK ME DAYZ? WEAPONS FOR DAYSS...I COULD ARM EVERY "PREPPER" IN AMERICA AND HAVE ENOUGH GUNS LEFT OVER TO START MY OWN ARMY.

 

I saw fishing hook once on shelves in the office building.

[newguyzombie 122]

You guys keep telling yourself that. Enjoy killing mindless, stupid zombies that offer absolutely zero challenge. I can literally spawn fresh, run The Path of the Warrior, get fully geared, and then sit around twiddling my thumbs all in under two hours. That's on a full server too, as most people tend to gravitate around the coast. There is absolutely no challenge in this game other than PvP. Whether or not you can find other things to do like count the blades of grass between towns, organize "Peace Walks", make a camp fire and tell scary stories to your role-playing friends, or whatever else it is that floats your boat, none of that changes the fact that this game is based 100% on player encounters, which 9 times out of 10 turn sour.

 

Whether it's offensive killing or defensive killing, the backbone of DayZ is the PvP. No one has a memorable zombie encounter beyond their very first confrontation with one. You can literally fight three or more zombies at once with your fists. But I guarantee everyone has multiple memorable fire fights they shared with other players. Most people (myself included) started DayZ with the intent of being a nice survivor, letting other like-minded passersby go on their way while gunning down the occasional "evil-doer". After a few days, this outlook generally dissipates and the player is then just looking to kill everyone they see out of boredom, spite, or contempt.

 

They can add barricading, vehicles, whatever. Unless they come up with some sort of reason for players to co-exist and work toward a common goal, this will never change. Period.

first of all, dayz is sandbox, so everybody is free to play as he likes. if someone likes "the hardness" in the survival aspect, by killing this extreme skilled zeds and looting food and other stuff to not die, than thats cool. kinda wired but cool...

but basicly u are completely right! the main carrying aspect in this game is PVP. that is what the most players do and thats why the most players brought it!

and there is NO reason to tell someone to play BF or COD, because PVP in dayz is way different than in these typical shooters and thats why the game is so interessting for all the players. No PVP, NO SOLD 2 MIO Copys.

 

And hand on heart, how long would someone play a DayZ singleplayer without any goal, just running around killing zeds and looting stuff. and then?

[sm00tje 88]

I'm outside of zelenogorsk. I roam the west and the north. Also, all of you are wrong. The purpose of Dayz is to find a fucking fishing hook. That is the end game. I have a fully kitted akm, minus drum mag, and everything else I could possibly want except  FUCKING FISHING HOOK. ALL I WANT TO DO IS FISH. WHY DO YOU MOCK ME DAYZ? WEAPONS FOR DAYSS...I COULD ARM EVERY "PREPPER" IN AMERICA AND HAVE ENOUGH GUNS LEFT OVER TO START MY OWN ARMY.

lmfao, I get the strange feeling that zeleno is getting more and more popular. Any confirmation on that?

[ld-airgrafix 403]

You don't get to be the judge of that for anyone but yourself. I kill because I find enjoyment in stalking and subsequently killing people in various ways. I almost never have need for their gear. However I don't go around trying to impose MY playstyle on anyone else, I advise you to do the same.

Who is talking about playstyle, u are completely off here.

[KingOfTime 267]

lmfao, I get the strange feeling that zeleno is getting more and more popular. Any confirmation on that?

I never saw anyone. I was only there for a little while, as I only get 17 fps and can't play effectively there.

[frosti 2165]

I never saw anyone. I was only there for a little while, as I only get 17 fps and can't play effectively there.

 

I was with one guy on the Mountain   and there was lots of other guys for some reason. My PC was chocking on 6-12 FPS when we were operating there and he is saying to me "F* this s* my FPS are dropping to 25 I'm logging".

Some people are spoiled.

[infiltrator 275]

Who is talking about playstyle, u are completely off here.

 

You are. You don't get to tell me, or anyone else, why I should kill players, or what should be fun or boring.

[ld-airgrafix 403]

You are. You don't get to tell me, or anyone else, why I should kill players, or what should be fun or boring.

When did i tell you how to play the game?? I dont even know who you are, are u on meds?

[infiltrator 275]

When did i tell you how to play the game?? I dont even know who you are, are u on meds?

 

Are you advocating that you need to know who someone is in order to tell them something, on a forum? Don't resort to petty attempts at insults either, here, let me refresh your memory:

 

Killing another player is for food or weapons he /she might have, not for fun or points 

 

I tend to play this game as its meant to be played, scavenging for food, looting buildings for anything useful to me.

 

Well survival is boring. 

 

Once again, you do NOT get to tell ANYONE what killing other players is justified with, be it food, weapons, fun or "points". And you do NOT get to tell anyone how the game is "meant" to be played, what's fun or what's boring. Because there is no intended way to play the game - it's all personal preference.

 

I have a preference to stalk and hunt geared people. But I'm not a pompous and self absorbed to the point I'm convincing myself and others that the game is "meant" to be played like that. I also won't play dumb and deny ever saying it one page later. 

Edited July 8, 2014 by Infiltrator

[blissandpanic 92]

Whats with the title? Mobile phone auto-correct?  ;)

 

Anyways, both my characters are on the west coast too. Zelen and Pustoshka.

[Karmaterror 982]

This is what makes dayz great, there are loads of types of players...heroes, bandits, medics, suvivalists....everything.

 

While I agree with your logic for getting off the coast, at the end of the day, the whole point of the game is to kill other players.

 

To this I say, why was a hero skin put into the mod?

If that were the case then why not just have the bandit skin?

I think that the designers did intend for both styles to be used from the start, its just one type is insanely high risk. And as it stands in the SA now...no reward ;)

 

I agree that without PvP it wouldn't sell, that creates the tension for survivalists and traders. Without the constant threat of a bandit where would be the thrill. Personally im a survivalist/basebuilder, well waiting for basebuilding lol. Im hardly ever looking for a firefight, just let them happen naturally, or play the avoidance game if I spot first. What id enjoy more is banding together with someone I met and starting a camp that will grow over the weeks, until someone finally finds it and I have two options...

 

1, Play the pissed off survivalist and go searching for my stolen gear, intent on killing these mofos that stole it...PvP option

2, Start over from scratch..Survival option

 

We need PvP and PvP driven squads, but friendly players and other types like basebuilders are crucial to the game. Without them KoSers wouldn't have some stationary targets as they have a chat on the road, Bandits wouldn't have people to dupe into a robbery, camp hunters would have nothing to hunt ect ect :)

[Knight05 (DayZ) 10]

I'm sorry but if you did a poll and asked the playerbase how many people would stay if they removed the pvp element like 15% or less would stay i bet.  The bottom line is you can only collect so many cans of beans, shoot so many zombies, and run endlessly for hours etc. Zombies aren't gameplay they are an nuisance in the way of pvp. Assume you and your whole team of pve'ers have the best possible gear in the game and you have already tried every element of the game, making a fire, fishing yadda yadda, then what? Are you seriously going to say lets go to cherno and shoot zombies from a window for 3 hrs etc?

 

PVP and the danger of losing your gear and someone always logging in or running into town next to you is what gives people a rush and keeps the fun going. He was absolutely correct in saying no pvp= no game= no sales. You can bitch about Call of Duty all day long but the bottom line is, all the survival and fun features is an attractant for people to bring them to the game, but PVP is what KEEPS THEM here. And if not then they are usually QQ carebear bambis who get shot over a can of beans and are generally bad at pvp so they complain pvp ruins the game.

 

I never met someone who was GOOD at pvp that complained about KOS, or that pvp was lame or ruining the game. The exact opposite actually.

[Grimey Rick 3417]

This is what makes dayz great, there are loads of types of players...heroes, bandits, medics, suvivalists....everything.

To this I say, why was a hero skin put into the mod?

If that were the case then why not just have the bandit skin?

I think that the designers did intend for both styles to be used from the start, its just one type is insanely high risk. And as it stands in the SA now...no reward ;)

I agree that without PvP it wouldn't sell, that creates the tension for survivalists and traders. Without the constant threat of a bandit where would be the thrill. Personally im a survivalist/basebuilder, well waiting for basebuilding lol. Im hardly ever looking for a firefight, just let them happen naturally, or play the avoidance game if I spot first. What id enjoy more is banding together with someone I met and starting a camp that will grow over the weeks, until someone finally finds it and I have two options...

1, Play the pissed off survivalist and go searching for my stolen gear, intent on killing these mofos that stole it...PvP option

2, Start over from scratch..Survival option

We need PvP and PvP driven squads, but friendly players and other types like basebuilders are crucial to the game. Without them KoSers wouldn't have some stationary targets as they have a chat on the road, Bandits wouldn't have people to dupe into a robbery, camp hunters would have nothing to hunt ect ect :)[/quote

]For the most part, I agree with you. However, being a hero still involves PvP. I was a hero for a long time until I realized how shitty bandits were getting. I joined the Dark Side in an attempt to bring balance to banditry, killing, maiming, robbing and harassing as needed.

I have no qualms with people playing a certain way. For all I care, if someone wanted to run around Chernarus collecting sticks and then compare their length and girth to.his penis, that'd be just fine to me... until said [weird] dude makes a post on the forums claiming this game isn't about PvP, but instead the endless search for a perfect replica of your shlong.

Every other activity in DayZ is secondary. There are many fun things to do in the game besides murder other people, but to say a game with AKMs, M4A1s, MP5-Ks, and a fuckton of ammo laying around when all that's needed to dispatch zombies is a melee weapon isn't about PvP is lying to yourself. :3

EDIT: Stupid phone. -_-

Edited July 8, 2014 by Grimey Rick

[Putts_UK 28]

While I agree with your logic for getting off the coast, at the end of the day, the whole point of the game is to kill other players.

 

No the point of the game is to survive. Of course some times you have to kill to survive.

 

Ps I am in Cherno at the moment as had been in the north for too long missed the old towns 

[KingOfTime 267]

I'm sorry but if you did a poll and asked the playerbase how many people would stay if they removed the pvp element like 15% or less would stay i bet.  The bottom line is you can only collect so many cans of beans, shoot so many zombies, and run endlessly for hours etc. Zombies aren't gameplay they are an nuisance in the way of pvp. Assume you and your whole team of pve'ers have the best possible gear in the game and you have already tried every element of the game, making a fire, fishing yadda yadda, then what? Are you seriously going to say lets go to cherno and shoot zombies from a window for 3 hrs etc?

 

PVP and the danger of losing your gear and someone always logging in or running into town next to you is what gives people a rush and keeps the fun going. He was absolutely correct in saying no pvp= no game= no sales. You can bitch about Call of Duty all day long but the bottom line is, all the survival and fun features is an attractant for people to bring them to the game, but PVP is what KEEPS THEM here. And if not then they are usually QQ carebear bambis who get shot over a can of beans and are generally bad at pvp so they complain pvp ruins the game.

 

I never met someone who was GOOD at pvp that complained about KOS, or that pvp was lame or ruining the game. The exact opposite actually.

PVP is an integral part of the Dayz experience, although the beginning of your post provides a great reason to make zombies more numerous and difficult to deal with.

 

I was with one guy on the Mountain   and there was lots of other guys for some reason. My PC was chocking on 6-12 FPS when we were operating there and he is saying to me "F* this s* my FPS are dropping to 25 I'm logging".

Some people are spoiled.

If you knew what my rig is, you might consider me spoiled lol

[hleVqq 139]

DayZ is not about PVP, it's just that PVP is the most entertaining thing to do in the current stage of the game according to many, myself included.

[Ken Bean 175]

If you honestly have a hard time surviving in the Mod or Standalone, then perhaps to you I can recommend Dora's Carnival 2: Boardwalk Adventure. I got it for my five year old, and he loves it!

 

Has been a while since you played the mod last time, right? The mod atm is pretty hard with patch 1.8.1.

 

And in regards of the stand alone, don't know what your longest survival time is but last time my character got killed it was because of a very lucky zed, who just killed me with one hit while I was prone trying to switch to the hatchet. (Yep, should have worn a helmet, still was kick-ass unexpected). If you become too recless, you'll certainly die.

[irl-calibre 744]