Farming VS Duping

[wordplayuk@gmail.com 101]

For me farming is ok, at its simplest it's like the reward a group get for effectively holding an objective. Duping is cheating and saying that it's taking advantage of a game mechanic is like saying hitting alt+f4 during a fight is an intended use of a scripted feature. It's just cheese.

At the moment while there aren't intended objectives I think things like area farming can actually add to the game but what do you think, is it considered as bad as duping, is it as frowned upon by the community?

[notemedown 2]

What do u mean by farming?

Going from server to server getting loot in the same area?

Cuz yea, thats bad.

[Yeni 53]

What do u mean by farming?

Going from server to server getting loot in the same area?

Cuz yea' date=' thats bad.

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Thought Farming was having a group take all the loot in an area and pile it away from its spawn, so it can spawn more loot later on. What you're talking about is server hopping.

[wordplayuk@gmail.com 101]

What do u mean by farming?

Going from server to server getting loot in the same area?

Cuz yea' date=' thats bad.

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Thought Farming was having a group take all the loot in an area and pile it away from its spawn, so it can spawn more loot later on. What you're talking about is server hopping.

"a group take all the loot in an area and pile it away from its spawn, so it can spawn more loot later on"

Yea this is what I'm referring to. The groups expose themselves while piling up this loot, and I've seen more than one example of a group having their farm jacked after holding a building or town for an hour. Unlike duping or server hopping and then storing loot out of bounds these operations have to take place in populated areas and over a long enough period of time for opposing groups to pose a real threat.

[LT.Sacred 9]

I think farming is perfectly fine.

[notemedown 2]

Yea, that is fine, never seen it done though.

[Reloading 0]

Done it before, don't think its exploiting. The only areas worth the effort of doing it are pretty risky and you're very exposed when picking up and dumping the loot.

Some places you have to back off up to 100m for the loot to respawn. Some places seem to be based on a timed spawn and you can just sit there.

Pain in the ass moving multiple weapons around though.

[Macenzie 79]

This is more commonly known as "loot cycling". This is taking advantage of how the loot spawns work so loot can be found more efficently.

I see this as acceptable as your group must hold the area for a prolonged amount of time while the looters are vunerable.

This is kinda an equivilent to scavaging IRL, you arn't going to find the good stuff laying on the ground. You need to search through piles of rubble/rubish/items and that takes time. The time it takes to loot cycle sort of simulates that.

[wordplayuk@gmail.com 101]

My team and I team where doing this last night. It was a lot of fun and we got everyone pretty well kitted before losing it all to a group raiding the town we were holding.

But as a straight up player I wanted to know how the community viewed this tactic before I indulged it.

[robjuluk 14]

i dont see this as a problem at all. you are at massive risk while dumping and waiting for the respawn and very easily interupted! no where near as bad as hopping and checking 1 spot in multiple servers. imo people coming and farming with vehicles and then taking it off map is a problem. they can clear so much stuff in a matter of minutes into a few vehicles and just deposit it all off map where no1 can feasibly get to it. they dont need to hang around for a respawn just hit it later as they can basically take everything! they come basically un equipped with full inventory space. no risk except for losing the vehicle, but if they have off map camp they prob have more than one vehicle as once you have one its far far easier to get another!

[KWilt 157]

To be honest, if you don't farm, you're never going to see any of the rare equipment in the game. Hell, I used to ride with a group who loot piled (as we call it) the barracks at NW for about three days straight. They never once saw NVGs.

So if you're against farming, then really, there's nothing to do in this game. Unless you're hella lucky, you're not going to find anything worthwhile. Though it might be a little cheesy, I would say it definitely takes skill to hold down something like a barracks or a grocery store or any other lootable place. They're high-traffic areas, and anybody could roll up on you. If you can successfully defend, you're definitely doing something right.

[Maca (DayZ) 769]

Dont see anybody having a problem with the way you and your group can hold down a location for 10/20 mins. Risk = Reward....

There is alot of work involved in moving loot around, its not like your group is hopping for " Quick reward".

[zipper 69]

To be honest' date=' if you don't farm, you're never going to see any of the rare equipment in the game. Hell, I used to ride with a group who loot piled (as we call it) the barracks at NW for about three days straight. They never once saw NVGs.

So if you're against farming, then really, there's nothing to do in this game. Unless you're hella lucky, you're not going to find anything worthwhile. Though it might be a little cheesy, I would say it definitely takes skill to hold down something like a barracks or a grocery store or any other lootable place. They're high-traffic areas, and anybody could roll up on you. If you can successfully defend, you're definitely doing something right.

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This is false. You do not need to farm to find rare equipment. There is a small list of things I haven't found just hitting each barracks one time. Rangefinder/NVG's/L85/ANPVS-Fal. Of that list the only thing I have really cared about was the range finder. NVG's and the NV Fal are only useful at night, and nobody plays on night servers. Once again you do not need to farm to find rare equipment.

That being said, I also don't see a problem with farming, as you are constantly at risk of being shot. It takes a significant amount of time to do this, and it is usually only done at NWAF, a deadly play to be regardless of how long you are there. I wish there were more places to do this, like 2 more barracks in the NEAF and maybe 1 in Balota. It would make the hot spots even more contested, and encourage people to get away from the damn coast. Ironically, no one wants to go get loot at the NWAF because everybody wants the loot from the NWAF.

[nooblord 8]

THATS NOT FARMING AND THATS NOT DUPING. LEARN YO TERMINOLOLOLGY

[zipper 69]

It is farming and no one is talking about duping anymore. Learn to read what people type.

[HerrEilig 2]

It seems luck is a great part of looting. I keep reading of people who haven't found several rare items in a long time, while some of my squadmates tend to die and on their way back to the rest of us find svds on deerstands and stuff like that.

As it is now, if one of our lucky guys dies we could start bets on the gear he will show up in again...

[zipper 69]

It seems luck is a great part of looting. I keep reading of people who haven't found several rare items in a long time' date=' while some of my squadmates tend to die and on their way back to the rest of us find svds on deerstands and stuff like that.

As it is now, if one of our lucky guys dies we could start bets on the gear he will show up in again...

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This is true. I haven't ever had a problem findings weapons, rare or not. However if someone asked to me find a compass for them, I would rightly tell them to go fuck themselves, as I can never find the damn things. Honestly, in the time I have been playing, I believe I have found one compass. Every other one I have had has been given to me or looted off a dead body.

In the group I play with, we tend to have people that always find the same things on a regular basis (coyote backpack/gps/rare weapons/etc.). Makes me wonder if the game is set up like that.

[xX_fr0st-w0lf_Xx (DayZ) 343]

Farming is fine, there is risk and reward to it. Server hoping and duping are horrible. I hope in time there are a way to counter these.

[KWilt 157]

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This is false.

I'm pretty sure you just proved my point by saying you've never found rare loot (as in' date=' NVGs and rangefinders) without farming. Bet you've never found satchel charges either.

But yeah. Unless you get lucky, or head back after very long intervals, you probably won't find what you're looking for. Unless it's a pretty basic weapon. There are a shit-ton of spawn points across the two barracks in NW alone.

Anyways, that aside, it is mostly luck if you don't farm. And since my luck tends to run in directions I don't want it to (such as getting four FALs and two ANPVSes out of a single helicopter crash [FALs are just too damn loud for me']) I just resort to farming. The only thing I'm really picky on lately is finding NVGs, because I'd like to stop being the only one with them in my group. But since they seem to be rarer than water in hell, I dunno if or when that's gonna happen.

[grrinc 7]

Seems a bit like 'exploiting' to me. I think bullets need to spawn depending on how many are being 'held' and how many players and zombies are alive. If players are stock piling, different items re spawn. Same with food - if there is an excess of stored food, the spawns should adjust accordingly.

[spokely 1]

This is more commonly known as "loot cycling".

Actually everyone calls it farming, so it's more commonly known as farming.

[zipper 69]

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This is false.

I'm pretty sure you just proved my point by saying you've never found rare loot (as in' date=' NVGs and rangefinders) without farming. Bet you've never found satchel charges either.

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Idk I'd consider M4 CCO SD as rare loot. And the SVD Camo/M107/M24/M4 HWS M203/M4A3 CCO/M16A4 ACOG/M16A2GL/M136 RL/Satchel Charges. You do not need to farm to find this stuff, you just need luck. As far as the list of loot that I had not found in the barracks, only two of those items can spawn in the barracks. If you only consider "rare loot" as NVG's, Range Finders and Satchel Charges, you are wrong.

[spinager 152]

Ive seen this. I was at the forestation next to the factory at leek. At the corner ouside was all this loot on the floor. AKM's and mags. AK74's and mags. :D and a bunch of other crap.

[jdz (DayZ) 238]

How is farming fine? It's an other cheap tactic and I hope you all get shot by doing it

[alienfreak 6]

How is farming fine? It's an other cheap tactic and I hope you all get shot by doing it

Actually its engine using. Usually disliked or forbidden in games.

But who cares about that in DayZ? We have dupers, cheaters, 1 man server admins, locked servers, servers restarting to dupe...