trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 Now that nades will be added I have some suggestions: 1. Make it so we can Kamikaze ourselves. Imagine group of bandits come to handcuff you etc. Before they do you pull the pin...while they stand around force feedin you fruit and crap the nade goes off and kills everyone uget the last laugh! Alternatively in a bandit hold up situation you could offer o leave your pack on the ground for them and then leave the area. While the bandit rummages through the pack it explodes killing them Finally in in dire fire fights/KOS whore. Trigger it to blow you and ALL your gear to kingdom come go out with pride knowing the KOS guys get nothing. For the above to work you would need to be able to detonate nades without removing them from your pack (just like how we load ammo into clips) 2. Fishing. Throw nade into pond and watch them all float belly up! 3. Ruined nades should be duds and not explode. Use ruined nades to bluff/threaten others. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Now that nades will be added I have some suggestions: 1. Make it so we can Kamikaze ourselves. Imagine group of bandits come to handcuff you etc. Before they do you pull the pin...while they stand around force feedin you fruit and crap the nade goes off and kills everyone uget the last laugh! Alternatively in a bandit hold up situation you could offer o leave your pack on the ground for them and then leave the area. While the bandit rummages through the pack it explodes killing them Finally in in dire fire fights/KOS whore. Trigger it to blow you and ALL your gear to kingdom come go out with pride knowing the KOS guys get nothing. For the above to work you would need to be able to detonate nades without removing them from your pack (just like how we load ammo into clips) 2. Fishing. Throw nade into pond and watch them all float belly up! 3. Ruined nades should be duds and not explode. Use ruined nades to bluff/threaten others.There is already a feature where if the grenade is not worn/pristine they won't work. Edited July 2, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 2, 2014 I like the idea of holding onto grenades with the pin pulled, or maybe just letting them down without throwing them. Grenades as duds are also an idea I like, not only would you bluff for them, but you'd also throw a grenade quickly thinking you would be able to save yourself, only to realize that it doesn't go off. Fish aren't actual objects in the game world, they're just generated after using fishing rods. Plus, tossing a grenade in the water would likely disturb the fish and they'd move away from it, not to mention the reduced effectiveness of the blast considering the pressure of the water. You could probably catch a few fish by doing this, but you'd also be able to shoot them with guns and spear them with melee weapons, so it'd be better that they become actual animals in the game world first, that way any means of killing could be used on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadWookie 573 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Personally I think being able to blow yourself and your gear up just because you get KOSed is ridiculous. Welcome to DayZ man, where if you dont KOS you get KOSed. Besides if you get in a firefight with someone who KOS's then why/how would you pull out a nade and blow yourself up? Shoot back! And even if you were to throw a nade in a small pond with fish the shrapnel from the nade would make the fish inedible. Aside from that, I like the ideas for killing bandits. Edited July 2, 2014 by MadWookie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TiggyPooh 134 Posted July 2, 2014 Nade + Rope + Tape = 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Personally I think being able to blow yourself and your gear up just because you get KOSed is ridiculous. Welcome to DayZ man, where if you dont KOS you get KOSed. Besides if you get in a firefight with someone who KOS's then why/how would you pull out a nade and blow yourself up? Shoot back! And even if you were to throw a nade in a small pond with fish the shrapnel from the nade would make the fish inedible. Aside from that, I like the ideas for killing bandits. Not complaining about being KOS But if you were in a situation u knew u were going to die...would you really pass up the opportunity to blow all your loot to pieces just to piss off your pursuers? Like say you kill of 2 out of three bandits but now your legs are broken and the other is reloading behind cover and your out in the open...etc I would suspect even the most vicious KOS bandit would opt for this when killed just for one final laugh it goes both ways. I think having that option would loads of fun. It isn't like grenades will be common on the experimental it sounds like most were found at heli crash sites. Edited July 2, 2014 by trev186 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 I like the idea of holding onto grenades with the pin pulled, or maybe just letting them down without throwing them. Grenades as duds are also an idea I like, not only would you bluff for them, but you'd also throw a grenade quickly thinking you would be able to save yourself, only to realize that it doesn't go off. Fish aren't actual objects in the game world, they're just generated after using fishing rods. Plus, tossing a grenade in the water would likely disturb the fish and they'd move away from it, not to mention the reduced effectiveness of the blast considering the pressure of the water. You could probably catch a few fish by doing this, but you'd also be able to shoot them with guns and spear them with melee weapons, so it'd be better that they become actual animals in the game world first, that way any means of killing could be used on them. Forget even dropping it on the ground. Just pull the pin put it back in the pack and it explodes IMO In regards to fish. Just have the pond spawn the fish when a nade explodes in the middle. There are some very small ponds the fish would not have to run. I know it isn't super realistic but have you seen their idea for a fishing pole? That rope is like super thick no way you could fish with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadWookie 573 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Not complaining about being KOS But if you were in a situation u knew u were going to die...would you really pass up the opportunity to blow all your loot to pieces just to piss off your pursuers? Like say you kill of 2 out of three bandits but now your legs are broken and the other is reloading behind cover and your out in the open...etc I would suspect even the most vicious KOS bandit would opt for this when killed just for one final laugh it goes both ways. I think having that option would loads of fun. It isn't like grenades will be common on the experimental it sounds like most were found at heli crash sites. And this is why the DayZ community is full of assholes who piss other people off and in return to getting pissed off they piss off other people by doing what happened to them. I'm sure you have been pissed off by someone who just kills you for no reason hence the reason for wanting to blow up your gear and I can understand that. If the grenade system is anything like Arma II or III you will be able to blow yourself up with a nade for sure. This is more of an honor subject than what they will or will not put into the game, if someone kills you in a firefight you should say gg and move on, no reason to make them waste their supplies when your just going to blow yourself and your gear up. I'm going to refer to COD for a second and say that's the "Cowards way out". Edited July 2, 2014 by MadWookie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadWookie 573 Posted July 2, 2014 Nade + Rope + Tape = Craft rope into string with a knife then Grenade + String + Duct Tape? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 Craft rope into string with a knife then Grenade + String + Duct Tape? i thought someone mentioned in another thread that they were able to hook the nades up to the Rabbit traps in the experimental so this may actually be possible....lay little grenade traps all over the server and then log off and someone else gets blown to bits hours later running into a tent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadWookie 573 Posted July 2, 2014 i thought someone mentioned in another thread that they were able to hook the nades up to the Rabbit traps in the experimental so this may actually be possible....lay little grenade traps all over the server and then log off and someone else gets blown to bits hours later running into a tent. Grenades better be super fucking rare if thats the case. cx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 Grenades better be super fucking rare if thats the case. cx I think they are heli crash sites...which that for now would make em very rare...the real problem would be item dupers.. they could create hundreds of em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 Also worth showing this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0tFLUgi93k Unless they fixed the throw animations in the latest patch then throwing nades will likely be the last thing you want to do with em....the guy in this video outruns the items he throws... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadWookie 573 Posted July 2, 2014 They would have to fix the throwing animation if they were to add aircraft such as Bi-Planes or choppers, because if they keep the tick rate that low flying in a aircraft would look like your an AI pilot from the mods. Unacceptable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted July 2, 2014 Desperately needs this. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadWookie 573 Posted July 2, 2014 Desperately needs this. Amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilgrim* 3514 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) ..//... Plus, tossing a grenade in the water would likely disturb the fish and they'd move away from it, not to mention the reduced effectiveness of the blast considering the pressure of the water. You could probably catch a few fish by doing this..//... You don't know about dynamiting fish ?grenade or dynamite fishing will catch you ALL the fish in the pond or stretch of river - has been a common - infamous - practice in various places at various times - that's why it's illegal (everywhere) . You throw in your grenade - ALL the fish are killed by concussion, they float to the top.Much easier than any other form of fishing, unfortunately. Don't you have one of those little 'Special Forces Survival Manuals' that are so cheap and common these days ? And so useful. Every hardcore player should have one. And the casual players should have one too. blast fishing Edited July 2, 2014 by pilgrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmer 77 Posted July 2, 2014 Sad thing is a majority of players don't know this but Just because you pull the pin on a M67 Frag grenade Doesn't mean it will explode, a M67 Frag grenade has TWO safeties first is the pin Which releases the first safety Then There is the Spoon which holds the fuse and stops it from striking so Unless you fully let go of the grenade it will never blow up as long as your holding the Spoon down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Sad thing is a majority of players don't know this but Just because you pull the pin on a M67 Frag grenade Doesn't mean it will explode, a M67 Frag grenade has TWO safeties first is the pin Which releases the first safety Then There is the Spoon which holds the fuse and stops it from striking so Unless you fully let go of the grenade it will never blow up as long as your holding the Spoon down. What I am saying is pull the pin and let go of the spoon by drop it back into your pack to blow yourself and others up. not like it has to be thrown Edited July 2, 2014 by trev186 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasmer 77 Posted July 2, 2014 What I am saying is pull the pin and let go of the spoon by drop it back into your pack to blow yourself and others up. not likely it has to be thrown Ah, Just the way you worded it gave me the impression that you ment "Cook it till it blows" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trev186 389 Posted July 2, 2014 Ah, Just the way you worded it gave me the impression that you ment "Cook it till it blows"no though in the experimental they did mention there is a timed improvised butane grenade/bomb which would follow that mentality :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TiggyPooh 134 Posted July 2, 2014 This is going to be fun! Booby Trap that bandit body you just killed and wait for him to come back to get his stuff. :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irish. 4886 Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Just this. Because it would make me feel like this: Edited July 2, 2014 by lrish 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GunnyITA 107 Posted July 2, 2014 Does anybody know if the granade kills also through walls? Example, the range is quite good, but if i know someone is throwing a grenade and i'm covering behind a wall, will i die anyway or i'm safe?I'm not surprise that a game with so many bugs still have to fix at this kind of thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadAsh (DayZ) 1513 Posted July 2, 2014 I think they are heli crash sites...which that for now would make em very rare...the real problem would be item dupers.. they could create hundreds of em. Indeed. They are already fast becoming a problem: (around the 5 min mark onwards) This game is soon to become bandit nade duping pandemonium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites