alsmir 255 Posted May 23, 2014 It was garbage anyway with current dispersion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted May 23, 2014 It was garbage anyway with current dispersion.But look at it this way. Now that its a rare item ONLY from heli crashes they might make it take priority with fixing its damage and dispersion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Etherious 907 Posted May 23, 2014 Pretty rad, but I think there are a few factors that need to happen before it (helicopter spawns) can be effective. Likewise, I think there are a few things that need to happen as well with regard to the weapons. 1. Helicopter spawns need to actually spawn useful weapons. Right now, there's no real utility in using an M4 versus an SKS versus an AK versus a Mosin. There aren't enough "high-end" weapons included to justify a fully significant helicopter spawn. In other words, I won't go searching for helicopter crashes unless something useful/extraordinary spawns there. And the M4 just isn't that useful/extraordinary by comparison to weapons spawning elsewhere. 2. Magazines, first, should be separated from ammunition. I don't necessarily want to find a full magazine every time I come across one. Second, I'd like to see STANAG mags, 5.56x45, and M4 attachments still able to spawn outside of helicopter spawns (albeit at a lower rate). 3. Helicopter crashes need to be divorced from server restarts. They need to be randomized and/or dynamic, only. Server restarts, ostensibly, will become infrequent. So they need to be dynamically allocated to the server.They do spawn at Random. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted May 23, 2014 Maybe this hopefully means the m4 is about as high tier as the game will get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted May 23, 2014 Maybe this hopefully means the m4 is about as high tier as the game will get. Be careful of what you wish for. Mods will definitely add awesome weapons from A3 and people will stop playing vanilla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
energeticsheep 95 Posted May 23, 2014 The majority of the ARMA 3 default weapons sucked anyway, the MXM and what not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted May 23, 2014 Be careful of what you wish for. Mods will definitely add awesome weapons from A3 and people will stop playing vanilla. People are going to stop playing vanilla anyway. First mod that adds some realism so it feels more like the mod and everyone will leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scriptfactory 620 Posted May 23, 2014 First mod that adds some realism so it feels more like the mod and everyone will leave. Doubt it. There is a reason why 3PP mode is so popular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cuddly_rabbit 102 Posted May 23, 2014 Good call on the M4 spawn locations. It was really weird to see M4s everywhere. It was not fitting the background setting.About the magazines: Realistically, they should only be found at the crashsite. Finding such a site would be like a jackpot, but the chance to find it should be very low. So... lucky guy, if you get it. You have a gun, magazines and ammo. I do not see a problem in that.About the cheated magazines: Why not... ... make a patch that catches all the users of the cheated ammo... and after an announcement to delete that kind of equipment (like 1 week, or 2)... bans all players that own them, or... reset their chars randomly 10 times with a black death-message "Cheating doesn't pay - 9 more to go", or... random punishment for being part in a gamebreaking cheat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted May 23, 2014 this is great news, now the m4 actually makes sense in the CZ. Sa vz.58 makes a lot more sense in the CZ, yet it might not get added :-(.Would be cool if they created sorts of NATO outpost somewhere far north west, where players could satisfy their NATO equipment needs. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorkmorgan 191 Posted May 24, 2014 Sa vz.58 makes a lot more sense in the CZ, yet it might not get added :-(.Would be cool if they created sorts of NATO outpost somewhere far north west, where players could satisfy their NATO equipment needs.Im with you there, a vz 58 and vz 52/57 would be so great in this game 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben127 0 Posted May 25, 2014 Glad to see that they are now only spawning at Heli-sites. :thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Maybe this hopefully means the m4 is about as high tier as the game will get.It already isn't the highest end weapon. Even as it stands, 'high-tier' is a very vague term, because it can mean either; most effective (it really isn't in most cases), most advanced (definitely most customizable, but not exactly advanced), or whatever.Technologically, the FNX-45 is more advanced functionally and attachment wise (Pistol MRDs are very recent), and the AKM is arguably more effective as a select-fire rifle (Yes, it's on experimental, but so is the changed M4 spawn) as it is more accurate, more powerful, more common, and has a 75Rnd magazine vs a 60 round magazine. If they'd add the M203 and fix change the dispersion, then it'd probably be the game's high-end weapon (although the AKM could still use the GP-25, so...) Regardless, I'm sure some more high-end weapons will get in, but your terminology is very vague and needs clarification. Edited May 25, 2014 by Chaingunfighter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
