Parachuting...

[Karmicdebt 46]

Kinda like the indea of chute taking chest slot. Soldiers parachuting also do not lose all their gear right?

Well a full decked out soldier ready for a jump walks around

(if and when he walks) like an overloaded penguin, but yes a full

compliment of gear can be carried into a jump....

 

 

 

BTW: any former 82nd out there?

Edited May 11, 2014 by Karmicdebt

[Dchil 829]

well dont know about australian paratroopers but  I have 32 jumps out of hueys and

chinooks and another 30 out of fixed wing.granted they were hollywood jumps.

Combat limits on altitude is 600ft. Peace time altitude is 800ft. its possible to jump from 500ft

This along with 52 hours flight time,  Personally I think the maintenance on air vehicles

would be  prohibitively monumental. what is it, 20 hours of maintenance for each hour flown.

I was talking about pilots but I see your point. While it isn't impossible to parachute from a heli it is (most likely) monumentally harder when that heli is plummeting towards the ground.

 

However I was more objecting to (what i thought was) the suggestion that helis should have parachutes in them by default. I'm pretty sure airbourne doesn't leave their parachutes in aircraft when not in use and don't keep extras when in flight (AFAIK you either jump or stay on the transport, no swapping out parachutes) so why would they be in there in the first place? (besides people storing them there when SHTF which i don't really see a reason for)

[Karmicdebt 46]

I was talking about pilots but I see your point. While it isn't impossible to parachute from a heli it is (most likely) monumentally harder when that heli is plummeting towards the ground.

 

However I was more objecting to (what i thought was) the suggestion that helis should have parachutes in them by default. I'm pretty sure airbourne doesn't leave their parachutes in aircraft when not in use and don't keep extras when in flight (AFAIK you either jump or stay on the transport, no swapping out parachutes) so why would they be in there in the first place? (besides people storing them there when SHTF which i don't really see a reason for)

Got your point, a helicopter that is auto rotating is falling slower that a gear laden troopy.

Youre right they dont keep them on board helicopters or any air vehicle for that matter.

Wouldnt trust a chute that had been sitting in a bench seat for a year without 

a rigger lookin at it first.

Edited May 11, 2014 by Karmicdebt

[real meatshield 424]

Also, go play some arma 3 king of the hill, people parachute into the city all day long now because a big ass transport helicopter landing with 10 guys getting out is sorta a bigger target than 10 individual guys bailing out.  Personally, I'd rather land, just in a good spot because as you said you're a sitting duck parachuting, but it doesn't mean you never make it and it's safer for the pilot really.

 

Little birds are good for doing quick inserts, bigger helicopters not so much.

Haha, actually landing that big-ass transport chopper is a lot of fun, and stressful as hell, but well worth the xp and cash when you pull it off for a tactical insertion- worth about 3x as much as a tactical paradrop.

 

KotH is a lot of fun.

[oanj 28]

They have parachutes in dayz.. the one that came out before the one you're playing now. If you want to be cheeky or witty, at least understand what you're getting yourself into.. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAaI9XnS-to

 

And for the love of God dont bring the BF4/COD argument in here.. thats for 12 year olds. 

HAHA good one, This is the forum for the SA..

[Karmaterror 982]

Id like to see parachutes as super rare loot items.  If you store them in your heli then s many players can jump as there are chutes. Would probs have to have a scroll option to equip chute before ejecting. Always good to manage a safe landing (all be it without the heli) when you get shot down :)

[Irish. 4886]

HAHA good one, This is the forum for the SA..

oh, you're 12. My bad. 

[BeefBacon 1185]

Parachutes is a great idea. Obviously they'd only have value if you have a helicopter or if you want to base jump off of the Green Mountain tower for some reason.

 

They should take the backpack slot, but should be storable inside of a backpack (obviously they'd be quite big, but you should be able to store them without wearing them). Maybe there could be civilian and military parachutes - military parachutes are less colourful and they also have a small amount of storage space (equivalent to the courier bag).

[Karmicdebt 46]

Parachutes is a great idea. Obviously they'd only have value if you have a helicopter or if you want to base jump off of the Green Mountain tower for some reason.

 

They should take the backpack slot, but should be storable inside of a backpack (obviously they'd be quite big, but you should be able to store them without wearing them). Maybe there could be civilian and military parachutes - military parachutes are less colourful and they also have a small amount of storage space (equivalent to the courier bag).

The bags you are talking about are called weezie bags or they

were years ago. The bag gets hooked to a bungy cord and has

a pull pin to release it before you PLF. It stacks on your backpack.

 

The military chutes are larger,(cant wear a backpack with it) the

pack goes strapped to your gear and rests on your legs(thus one

of the reasons you walk like a pengiun) Rifles go into a case

wich it almost takes two men and a mule to get it out of.

[Hi Im Brad 57]

well u know i like turtles so i have to agree

[Frothyboot18 46]

Parachutes has always been part of dayz... So no, you cant tell old mod players to go play bf4... Try the mod first, then come back and tell me you dont want prachutes, having the ability to drop right in the middle of a gunfight... Or having the chopper do a fake land, behind some trees then while your enemies try to surround that lz, you parachute behind them? Parachutes make for so e great tactics... Just make it so that the pilot himself cant use a chute... Make it so that you have to actually find a chute to use one...

[oanj 28]

oh, you're 12. My bad. 

Witty.. You can tell you're American...

[BeefBacon 1185]

Witty.. You can tell you're American...

 

• LocationLos Angeles or somewhere outside of NWAF..

 

Excellent deductive work, there. Truly it takes a mind such as yours to know that someone from LA lives in America.

 

Several of your posts have been pretty stupid, bud, including this one. Concluding that someone lacks intelligence as a result of their nationality paints you as a rather dense individual. Don't be dense.

[Irish. 4886]

Just make it so that the pilot himself cant use a chute... Make it so that you have to actually find a chute to use one...

I was thinking about that.. well the 2nd one Ive already discussed but pilots not being able to use them makes sense. But there should be one caveat. You cannot switch out of the pilot seat while in flight, only into it.

 

So if your pilot gets shot, scroll wheel to "eject body" then scroll wheel to "switch to pilot seat." If the heli is going down, the pilot has no choice but to try to land it safely.. which in arma, dayz and take-on you can, with a little practice, even with no main engine you can survive the crash and in most cases even keep the heli intact. 

[LigerRider 82]

I wouldn't mind base jumping off the cherno towers.

[Irish. 4886]

I wouldn't mind base jumping off the cherno towers.

Somehow that had completely slipped my mind.. land on the Balota Airstrip.. 

 

My God that would be such a fun thing to do. I'd die over and over again doing it too. lol

[LigerRider 82]

 I'd die over and over again doing it too. lol

Yes, I'd totally land in the trees and kill myself every time, but it would be worth it!

[TheLast-StaR 16]

I don't see why not. Don't see them being exploited , duped (lol) or anything game breaking. If they could add them without it breaking any thing else I say go for it.

Also I wouldn't mind a parachute spawn.

[oanj 28]

 

• LocationLos Angeles or somewhere outside of NWAF..

 

Excellent deductive work, there. Truly it takes a mind such as yours to know that someone from LA lives in America.

 

Several of your posts have been pretty stupid, bud, including this one. Concluding that someone lacks intelligence as a result of their nationality paints you as a rather dense individual. Don't be dense.

 

Hahah :')

[Frothyboot18 46]

I was thinking about that.. well the 2nd one Ive already discussed but pilots not being able to use them makes sense. But there should be one caveat. You cannot switch out of the pilot seat while in flight, only into it.

 

So if your pilot gets shot, scroll wheel to "eject body" then scroll wheel to "switch to pilot seat." If the heli is going down, the pilot has no choice but to try to land it safely.. which in arma, dayz and take-on you can, with a little practice, even with no main engine you can survive the crash and in most cases even keep the heli intact.

I would rather not have an eject body option, if you get in a heli and dont have a chute, youre going down with the ship... It will make for more interesting gameplay, atleast not while in the air, like kill the pilot while the heli is on the ground then eject body option should be accessible from outside the choppah. Credit should be given to a shooter good enough to kill the pilot from an airborne heli... You make that shot, you kill everyone on board.

It should be balanced though, helis and stuff, its not the best feeling in the world riding a bike on a dirt road then having a blackhawk come down and shoot you with a mini gun....

[Irish. 4886]

I would rather not have an eject body option, if you get in a heli and dont have a chute, youre going down with the ship... It will make for more interesting gameplay, atleast not while in the air, like kill the pilot while the heli is on the ground then eject body option should be accessible from outside the choppah. Credit should be given to a shooter good enough to kill the pilot from an airborne heli... You make that shot, you kill everyone on board.

It should be balanced though, helis and stuff, its not the best feeling in the world riding a bike on a dirt road then having a blackhawk come down and shoot you with a mini gun....

Well, if that was the case.. not everyone on board would die. Those that could bail out would. 

 

And kicking a body out is about the same on the ground as it is in the air.. you undo their harness, disconnect their avionics, open the door and push them out. If it had a long animation, it could be really useful imo. But I could see where some would not want it at all.. it would just be fun trying to do it and dying anyhow because you did not react in time, or you do somehow pull it off at the last second.. epic save, sniper is pissed and fires many more shots. 

[Ludz 17]

i want cliifhanging !!!!

[Katana67 2907]

Made a suggestion thread about this a few weeks ago.

 

One thing's for sure, it shouldn't be an innate item. It should be a looted/crafted item.

 

Your helicopter is going down and you don't have a chute? Tough tits, you're riding that baby into the ground.

 

None of this annoying "ermergerd, choppers done! Let's all bail and then mow down the asshole who rightfully shot us down!"

 

It's funny, helicopters themselves weren't overly ridiculous in DayZ mod. But the systems attached to them (i.e. infinite ammo on restarts, parachutes for all, seeing every object via an insanely good third person view) just made it a bit much. Get rid of all that, replace it with reasonable systems (i.e. ammo which has to be scavenged and that saves on restart, looted parachutes, and a fixed/limited third person radius for helicopters) and we're golden.

 

That said, I would like things like autorotation and controlled descents for helicopters so that it isn't 100% crash or insta-charcoal.

Edited May 12, 2014 by Katana67

[Irish. 4886]

Made a suggestion thread about this a few weeks ago.

 

One thing's for sure, it shouldn't be an innate item. It should be a looted/crafted item.

 

Your helicopter is going down and you don't have a chute? Tough tits, you're riding that baby into the ground.

 

None of this annoying "ermergerd, choppers done! Let's all bail and then mow down the asshole who rightfully shot us down!"

 

It's funny, helicopters themselves weren't overly ridiculous in DayZ mod. But the systems attached to them (i.e. infinite ammo on restarts, parachutes for all, seeing every object via an insanely good third person view) just made it a bit much. Get rid of all that, replace it with reasonable systems (i.e. ammo which has to be scavenged and that saves on restart, looted parachutes, and a fixed/limited third person radius for helicopters) and we're golden.

 

That said, I would like things like autorotation and controlled descents for helicopters so that it isn't 100% crash or insta-charcoal.

Good ideas.. 

 

I would like 1st person only flying. No weapons on helis or planes. No chutes unless you find one first. Auto-rotate in mid-flight removed, and the ability to recover from engine failure (crash land) if done properly. Give us that, and no one will bitch about helis except about how much of a pain they are to fly.

[Katana67 2907]

Good ideas.. 

 

I would like 1st person only flying. No weapons on helis or planes. No chutes unless you find one first. Auto-rotate in mid-flight removed, and the ability to recover from engine failure (crash land) if done properly. Give us that, and no one will bitch about helis except about how much of a pain they are to fly.

 

I think some helicopters should have door guns, but they should require complete ammo boxes/belts (like any other GPMG/LMG) to be operated. That way, helicopters are still harmless when piloted by one guy, but a force to be reckoned with when used by a group.

 

The mod just had it so that it (the UH-1) came standard with 5 or 6 100 round boxes of 7.62x51 for the M240s. That and the ammo regenerated on server restart. Which made the use of weapons on the helicopters completely inconsequential.

 

I think helicopters should be tiered in much the same way that I think weapons should be tiered. You've got the bone-stock single-seater. Then you'd have the full-on scout helicopters (like an MH-6) which could carry a few more people. Then you'd have unarmed helicopters which could transport a group. Then you'd have the military helicopters with door mounted weapons. All in varying degrees of rarity (all of which should be hyper-rare anyhow, and not in working order).

However, I would like to see different configurations available to be installed by the player, like a loudspeaker array.

 

Without any armament, they're really just louder... flying... cars.

Edited May 12, 2014 by Katana67