DayZ Admin Controls?

[A_6_year_old 6]

I've found that through my admin console I can't seem to do that much the basic controls I have found is.

Kick 

Ban

Restart

Stop

Start

 

This brings an issue that I can only ban people if we find out their ingame names and so finding that is near impossible if I have to get near them and say they are hacking with m4s unlimited ammo. Anyone know is there some kind of console that admins can use etc?

[real meatshield 424]

Admin controls are VERY limited right now. Apparently vilayer provides a little more than gameservers, but if you can ban with your GSP you are a step beyond what gameservers will allow me to do.

 

About the only way to get them is as you said- get close. Kill them, and then go interact with their corpse. It might tell you their name when you check for pulse, but if they have already logged then all it will tell you is unknown entity.

[A_6_year_old 6]

You think this would be fixed asap though so admins could stop hackers and the like? Not complaining just think we need to bring it up as an issue

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

You think this would be fixed asap though so admins could stop hackers and the like? Not complaining just think we need to bring it up as an issue

The problem is proving it. All a hacker has to do is report you for admin abuse if you don't have concrete evidence.

[A_6_year_old 6]

Item report maybe? A system so it copies the list of the persons items before disconnecting them in order to see bugged ammo etc?

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

Item report maybe? A system so it copies the list of the persons items before disconnecting them in order to see bugged ammo etc?

As far as I know, there is no log system and bugged ammo is not a hack but a glitch so reporting an exploiter is even harder because it's in alpha and the game is full of exploits.

[A_6_year_old 6]

Guess you'll have to trust the admins and leave the server if they are bad but at the same time I understand why I guess they can't trust admins. People are too susceptible to anger and making rash mistakes

[byrgesen 1341]

The problem is proving it. All a hacker has to do is report you for admin abuse if you don't have concrete evidence.

 

As far as I know, there is no log system and bugged ammo is not a hack but a glitch so reporting an exploiter is even harder because it's in alpha and the game is full of exploits.

 

 

Thats where the Battleye logs come into play.

If they are set up correctly, they will log EVERYTHING thats happening on the server, and voila, you have your proof.

So the question is now, is the BE filters set up correctly on the SA server's yet? They are most likely still working on setting them up.

I am not an admin, but ive hosted many Arma II and III servers, so i know my way around.

 

Do you paying admins have acces to the battleye logs? Or is that restricted to BI perhaps?

Have you noticed any automatic kicks? That ussually indicates a player trying to do something BE filters wont allow.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Byrgesen

[kichilron 8550]

Guess you'll have to trust the admins and leave the server if they are bad but at the same time I understand why I guess they can't trust admins. People are too susceptible to anger and making rash mistakes

 

 

You simply can't do both. You can not be an Admin with the appropriate tools to have an overview of your playerbase and be a player at the same time. It opens up to abuse and noone can resist that.

 

One can say what they want about it, but if you have the powers you can not be a player.

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

You simply can't do both. You can not be an Admin with the appropriate tools to have an overview of your playerbase and be a player at the same time. It opens up to abuse and noone can resist that.

 

One can say what they want about it, but if you have the powers you can not be a player.

I had a Rust server, please don't hit me, and it was ridiculous with what I could do.  God mode, teleporting, giving myself whatever item I wanted.  My friends new I could do whatever and always asked me to spawn stuff for them, needless to say, I stopped renting.

[real meatshield 424]

You simply can't do both. You can not be an Admin with the appropriate tools to have an overview of your playerbase and be a player at the same time. It opens up to abuse and noone can resist that.

 

One can say what they want about it, but if you have the powers you can not be a player.

In general I would have to agree. Being admin on my ARMA3 server running wasteland, I can do *anything*.

However, truth be told, I havent even logged in as admin in weeks. Logging in, teleporting to the gun shop, giving myself 20 grand to play with, then spawning an attack chopper in front of me...the novelty wore off quick. Tabbing out and using EPMRcon is all I need to do, and it still allows me to play and have fun.

Probably helps that I'm an old fuck and find it more fun to actually play the game, as opposed to playing god mode to win.

[A_6_year_old 6]

You simply can't do both. You can not be an Admin with the appropriate tools to have an overview of your playerbase and be a player at the same time. It opens up to abuse and noone can resist that.

 

One can say what they want about it, but if you have the powers you can not be a player.

It's called self control and very few gamers have it

[dutchhell 6]

When my friend was inside a firefight at the airfield he get kicked by the admin and was killed by him.

So please remove the waiting time when kicked, and logout time when kicked....!

[xalienax 621]

I'd rather run the risk of a few abusive admins then have entire servers effectively "hijacked" by a hacker untill BE gets him in the next wave. sorry thats not acceptable to eb be paying 70-100+$ /mo and have to allow hacking/gltiching/exploits under your freaking nose because a few pubbers playign for free are fearful of admin abuse.

[dutchhell 6]

I'd rather run the risk of a few abusive admins then have entire servers effectively "hijacked" by a hacker untill BE gets him in the next wave. sorry thats not acceptable to eb be paying 70-100+$ /mo and have to allow hacking/gltiching/exploits under your freaking nose because a few pubbers playign for free are fearful of admin abuse.

 

You are right. but it can be bought. I just hate it when I go inside a new server get kicked for no reason and wait again 200sec…! get kicked on airfield and get killd and again 200sec….!

I haven’t seen a hacker inside the game. Only unlimited ammo / People inside not accessible rooms. I get kicked by admins more and more. And wait again 200sec… for no freaking reason.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Dutchhell

[xalienax 621]

You are right. but it can be bought. I just hate it when I go inside a new server get kicked for no reason and wait again 200sec…! get kicked on airfield and get killd and again 200sec….!

its not perfect. i have no delusions about that. ive on both sides. i was an admin for NWO when we had to jam packed vanilla official hive servers running. I had to spend more time reading logs and explaining to players that i clodnt do anything about everything the lost in the entire server getting nuked because hosting agreement restrictions. I dont envy admins at all. That said, there are those who are abuseive, there are those who use it to give thier caln or irl firends unfair advantage. ive been on the bad side of that too and its not fun. But at the end of the day, i packed up and left that server and forgot it ever existed. simples.

[miqueloz 33]

I'd rather risk hackers than admins with hack-like powers. The former are rare (and I've not yet seen anyone obviously hacking), the latter would literally be on every server. No-go on a game with persistent characters.

[Etherious 907]

I'd rather risk hackers than admins with hack-like powers. The former are rare (and I've not yet seen anyone obviously hacking), the latter would literally be on every server. No-go on a game with persistent characters.

All the servers? That's kind of a super exaggerated assumption but ok. I will admit it would be alot but not EVERY single one.

[miqueloz 33]

All the servers? That's kind of a super exaggerated assumption but ok. I will admit it would be alot but not EVERY single one.

All the servers have admins.

[real meatshield 424]

All the servers have admins.

But NOT all are badmins.

[ZomboWTF 527]

You think this would be fixed asap though so admins could stop hackers and the like? Not complaining just think we need to bring it up as an issue

there are many admins out there allready misusing the few tools they are given

 

restarting servers to hope for an admin killed getting his gear back

kicking players then killing them while they are in the logout animation

kicking players because they aren't in the same clan

 

banning i have not encountered yet,

 

the problem is: with more power for the admins, more abuse will be made

 

and btw: that m4 and SKS ammo "hack" is an exploit, not a hack,

banning for that may get your server reported, though i hate ammoglitchers, too,

just an informative warning

 

when private hive are coming out, i will probably host one, since i don't trust anyone else to be a legitimate admin and not abusing the admin powers

[Etherious 907]

there are many admins out there allready misusing the few tools they are given

 

restarting servers to hope for an admin killed getting his gear back

kicking players then killing them while they are in the logout animation

kicking players because they aren't in the same clan

 

banning i have not encountered yet,

 

the problem is: with more power for the admins, more abuse will be made

 

and btw: that m4 and SKS ammo "hack" is an exploit, not a hack,

banning for that may get your server reported, though i hate ammoglitchers, too,

just an informative warning

 

when private hive are coming out, i will probably host one, since i don't trust anyone else to be a legitimate admin and not abusing the admin powers

That ammo thing is not an exploit, it is legitimately a hack. To be more correct, it's memory editing function within some hacks going around. Also, you have not encountered banning because we can't.

[HIHBGaming 14]

Also, you have not encountered banning because we can't.

 

We are allowed to ban but if we do we need to be able to back that ban up. Some GSP's will give you access basic logs as well as having a ban list but I'm sure there is a detailed log somewhere we just don't have access to it yet.

 

I refer you to the DayZ Multiplay Wiki.

Edited May 15, 2014 by R.Neville

[ZomboWTF 527]

That ammo thing is not an exploit, it is legitimately a hack. To be more correct, it's memory editing function within some hacks going around. Also, you have not encountered banning because we can't.

i thought these unlimited ammo stacks were made with a glitch using the protector cases and 300 round cases,

something with taking ammo out of a mag in the protector case or something...

 

guess i was mis-informed then

Edited May 15, 2014 by Zombo

[miqueloz 33]

But NOT all are badmins.

And I never claimed otherwise. However, like I said, if every server has admins with hack-like powers, then there's going to be a substantially larger amount of badmins than there are hackers currently. It's easy for good admins to abuse powers as well. When they're angry, tired, think someone is hacking, whatever. Just a little "show names/locations", just this once, to confirm something or the other... and legit players are screwed over.