Improvised Rifle Scope

[energeticsheep 95]

INTRODUCTION

 

Well, this is my first actual suggestion within the DayZ community, therefor I hope to make this suggestion worth while.

So..- Lets get to it!

 

Throughout playing DayZ, although it was always kind of easy to find let's say a 'Long Range Scope' of kinds, I always wondered what it would be like if  DayZ was more of an "Improvise to Survive" sort of game.

One thought triggered another, leading me to wonder if duct tape actually had a use. I browsed multiple forums and the DayZ Standalone Wikipedia in order to find a use, however I did not find anything.

 

THE SUGGESTION

 

I was thinking of a makeshift Binocular Scope in which you need three easy to find items which are as followed;

 

• BINOCULARS (obviously)
• HACKSAW
• DUCT TAPE​

The makeshift optic should be attachable to weapons such as the Blaze 95, Mosin Nagant and the SKS.

 

In order to make the item attachable you must first have the specified items and drag the Hacksaw onto the Binoculars in your inventory and it will cut the Binoculars into two halves which will take up two individual inventory spaces. You then must drag the singular binocular onto the duct tape (or vice versa) which then makes "Makeshift Binocular Optic' (or something along those lines). 

Then, it will work like any other optic. This means you can just drag it onto your Blaze 95, Mosin Nagant or SKS and it will attach.

The texture should look as if a few layers of duct tape are wrapped around the top of the binocular and around the weapon. In my opinion, it should look tacky as I'm sure you would be in a hurry for obvious reasons (inb4 zombie apocolipsssss).

 

So yeah, that's basically my suggestion. Post your opinions, I'd love to hear them. 

 

- EnergeticSheep

[nl 986]

Are you serious? You really think you could make a bino work as a scope, keeping it zeroed with ducttape...well if I ever encounter a sniper I hope it's you with your binoducttapelongrangescope.

I know this is just a game but this is so far deviating from reality I wonder if you are trolling.

[Dchil 829]

And for recticle?...

 

 

 

 

Shit doesn't work that way, mate.

[-Gews- 7443]

Are you serious?

[-Gews- 7443]

If you have no scope just using the iron sights... if you have no iron sights just point the thing in the general direction. Either way is better than binoculars and duct tape...

[energeticsheep 95]

I never said it needed to be zeroed. It's improvised, meaning surely it won't be as good as an actual scope. There was no need to react in such a negative way. I'm fine with your opinion, but saying I'm trolling because of a mere idea, pathetic.

 

However, I understand the flaws and I thank you for the responses. 

 

 

And for recticle?...

 

 

If you look down the Binoculars it has a Cross which spans across the entire glass in which the center can be used as a reticle.

Edited April 29, 2014 by EnergeticSheep

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

There is little to no chance to ever see your target in that thing. But you have my beans just because, for once, someone isn't trying to request an overpriced and unrealistic gun accessory.

Edited April 29, 2014 by Lady Kyrah

[terminal_boy 860]

Did you sleep through Physics at school?

[energeticsheep 95]

Did you sleep through Physics at school?

Actually I got an A, but I'm pretty sure the subject of binoculars being used as a weapon scope doesn't really categorize under physics.

[energeticsheep 95]

There is little to no chance to ever see your target in that thing. But you have my beans just because, for once, someone isn't trying to request an overpriced and unrealistic gun accessory.

 

I understand your point, and thank you.

 

It's not meant to be entirely beneficial. Not everything within this game should be beneficial because of the fact it's apocalyptic. If everything was beneficial there would be no god damn zombies. I'm not expecting the optic to be used often, but it's a cool feature which if you're trying to fix yourself up a makeshift optic because you can't find for example a PU or Long Range Scope then there's an easy to make option.

[terminal_boy 860]

Well, there's this little thing called parallax that turns telescopes (like the one you've suggested improvising) into poop unless you have both lens aligned perfectly.

And while duct tape is epically good at sticking stuff together, it's rather unlikely to hold your device together and/or to a full bore rifle under recoil.

[-Gews- 7443]

I never said it needed to be zeroed.

 

Having it even 0.5 degrees out of alignment will send the bullet flying over 2.5 feet off-target at 100 yards.

 

Even if you managed to somehow tape it on right, the slightest bump or shake would render it worse than useless. And recoil is more than a slight bump.

 

So just use these handy metal bits provided with the rifle...

 

[energeticsheep 95]

Having it even 0.5 degrees out of alignment will send the bullet flying over 2.5 feet off-target at 100 yards.

 

Even if you managed to somehow tape it on right, the slightest bump or shake would render it worse than useless. And recoil is more than a slight bump.

I hope you realize this is a game.. a game in which zombies have more or less taken over. Not everything has to be realistic to the tee, there are flaws in this game which are not realistic, I'm sure we can both agree and will most likely not be changed as they make the game better overall.

[energeticsheep 95]

Well, there's this little thing called parallax that turns telescopes (like the one you've suggested improvising) into poop unless you have both lens aligned perfectly.

And while duct tape is epically good at sticking stuff together, it's rather unlikely to hold your device together and/or to a full bore rifle under recoil.

 

Then make the scope incredibly finicky, after every 10 magazines or so the duct tape will tear off or release because of the pressure it has to withstand due to recoil.

Edited April 29, 2014 by EnergeticSheep

[nl 986]

I never said it needed to be zeroed. It's improvised, meaning surely it won't be as good as an actual scope. There was no need to react in such a negative way. I'm fine with your opinion, but saying I'm trolling because of a mere idea, pathetic.

 

Okay I apologize for calling you a troll, maybe it was uncalled for. But I still think it's a very unrealistic idea.

What use is a scope if you don't intend to have it zeroed? You'd be better of spotting your target with your un-hacksawed bino and aiming your iron sights in the general direction.

[energeticsheep 95]

Okay I apologize for calling you a troll, maybe it was uncalled for. But I still think it's a very unrealistic idea.

What use is a scope if you don't intend to have it zeroed? You'd be better of spotting your target with your un-hacksawed bino and aiming your iron sights in the general direction.

 

It's makeshift, it's not intended to be beneficial, but at least it allows for you to see a good distance without having to switch from Bino to Gun. Plus you can always account for bullet drop. Not everything required zeroing, it's just there for assistance.

[nl 986]

It's makeshift, it's not intended to be beneficial, but at least it allows for you to see a good distance without having to switch from Bino to Gun. Plus you can always account for bullet drop. Not everything required zeroing, it's just there for assistance.

I'm sorry, you really make no sense at all.

[energeticsheep 95]

How are real scopes unrealistic? I have friends that own real EOtech scopes for airsoft and lots of people use stuff like that for hunting.

I'm sure they were relating to the fact that the majority of weapon accessories are military grade or used for hunting; what if someone didn't have access to this and they were scared to hit up an airfield; simple, you can find hacksaws, duct tape and binoculars everywhere.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Are you serious? You really think you could make a bino work as a scope, keeping it zeroed with ducttape...well if I ever encounter a sniper I hope it's you with your binoducttapelongrangescope.

I know this is just a game but this is so far deviating from reality I wonder if you are trolling.

 

 

 

Are you serious?

 

 

McGuyver would succeed in making one... :lol:

You just forgot some thread ( human hair is the best ) for the crosshairs and of course the almighty swiss army knife.

[-Gews- 7443]

I hope you realize this is a game.. a game in which zombies have more or less taken over. Not everything has to be realistic to the tee, there are flaws in this game which are not realistic, I'm sure we can both agree and will most likely not be changed as they make the game better overall.

 

So should we be able to improvise planes from random warehouse materials? Because I saw it on MacGyver.

 

Binocular scopes are not a "slight" departure from authenticity.

 

 

It's makeshift, it's not intended to be beneficial, but at least it allows for you to see a good distance without having to switch from Bino to Gun. Plus you can always account for bullet drop. Not everything required zeroing, it's just there for assistance.

 

 

"Zeroing" in real life and "zeroing" in DayZ are two different things.

[energeticsheep 95]

I'm sorry, you really make no sense at all.

 

Zeroing is not necessary by twisting a knob on a weapon, you can manually zero your rifle by firing off rounds which you can trace to it's impact zone, thus adjusting it so you can near that impact zone closer to your target. You don't need to use Page Up and Page Down or whatever you have it binded too.

[energeticsheep 95]

So should we be able to improvise planes from random warehouse materials? Because I saw it on MacGyver.

 

Binocular scopes are not a "slight" departure from authenticity.

 

 

 

 

"Zeroing" in real life and "zeroing" in DayZ are two different things.

 

Improvising planes is off-topic, if I'm honest. I couldn't give a damn about MacGyver, I'm just saying it's a feature which would be cool to see added. Within a Zombie Apocalypse, business' will evidently go out of business. I don't know if you're aware, but that means no more weapon sights being manufactured by EOTech and Aimpoint.. The realism is there, perhaps the method isn't correct, but that's for people to test. There's features in DayZ i'm sure not many people like, and this may be one of them, but still, it's realism.

 

Also, I beg to differ. Zeroing in real life and DayZ are the same, although in DayZ you press two keys whereas in real life you turn a small dial (depending on what rifle you're using). Some optics don't even have zeroing in real life. Plus, this would be a quickly thought up piece of kit which anybody could have quick access too, even if it isn't good, it's still something.

Edited April 29, 2014 by EnergeticSheep

[nl 986]

Zeroing is not necessary by twisting a knob on a weapon, you can manually zero your rifle by firing off rounds which you can trace to it's impact zone, thus adjusting it so you can near that impact zone closer to your target. You don't need to use Page Up and Page Down or whatever you have it binded too.

In a way that's true, but you just said that your setup would only last for a few shots, suggesting it would deviate fast, good luck with hitting your (moving) target. Of course in a game they could make it a stable setup for 10 shots but it is so far from reality that I really don't like your idea. I am all for creative ideas and suggestions for the developers but let's stay as close to reality as possible (well that's my wish anyway).

[energeticsheep 95]

In a way that's true, but you just said that your setup would only last for a few shots, suggesting it would deviate fast, good luck with hitting your (moving) target. Of course in a game they could make it a stable setup for 10 shots but it is so far from reality that I really don't like your idea. I am all for creative ideas and suggestions for the developers but let's stay as close to reality as possible (well that's my wish anyway).

Noted. 

 

In response however, I'm just throwing out ideas to try and see if the idea catches on. Personally, I like the idea although 10 shots is honestly crap and not worth while, but what i'm trying to get across is the fact that it won't last long, even if it is more than 10 shots. Let's say 10 magazines, so basically 50 rounds with a Mosin. That's stable enough to me.

[-Gews- 7443]

Some optics don't even have zeroing in real life.

 

"Zeroing" refers to the initial sighting-in process.

 

"Holding zero" means the scope doesn't shift around randomly and throw the point of impact off.

 

You don't "zero" at zero meters, you might zero at 200 meters, or more often something like "3 inches high at 100 meters".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll put it this way... to someone who is doesn't know anything about physics it might seem like a reasonable idea that a cannon ball would fly straight up until it "ran out of steam", then suddenly plummet to the ground.

 

Scholars actually believed and taught this in medieval times. To someone today, with even rudimentary knowledge of physics it's an absurd concept.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And so with firearms and the idea of duct-taped scopes crafted from half a pair of binoculars...