sapioit 2 Posted July 30, 2014 I'm not against having a tank or an armoured helicopter, or something a bit overpowered, but the ammount of effort needet to get one up and running would have to be overpowered too, meaning that you would need like an entire squad to get a tank working, or a armoured helicopter, but it would need tons of fuel... like for the tank / armoured vehicle 1 KM 2 Jerry Cans (called JCs for the ease of writing) and the fuel tank of 3 JC (so you will need to get a grab on some JCs before trying to use it to travel) and for the armoured helicopter should be like 4 JCs/KM, fuel tank of 12 JCs for the small one (for four people) and 6 JCs/KM, fuel tank of 16 JCs for the big one (12 people)... and the armoured vehicles / tank should be verry slow, too... I think, this way it would not be so overpowered, as it would require a lot of work to get one working... and definetly not for "normal" transport purposes... more like for going throughout the middle of the hell (AKA on top of Cherno with 20+ people shooting at you) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnyoneInCherno? 187 Posted July 30, 2014 There should of course be military aircraft It would only make sense, no? BUTThey should have NO ammo. They should have the pods, and the guns, but ZERO of the actual rockets fired from such places. AT MOST rare small stashes, maybe in counts of 10, of 12.7 mm, for DSHKS. BUT THAT IS IT. This allows for there to be a realistic level of vehicles, but they just wont be terribly useful other than for transport and a mock intimidation. Like giving a musket rails and synthetic furniture. Looks scary, but its not really dangerous at all (LOOKIN AT YOU CNN) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigor Mortis (DayZ) 141 Posted July 30, 2014 A C-130... for real? That thing would leave the map space in like 20 seconds.... How about zero winged aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 30, 2014 A C-130... for real? That thing would leave the map space in like 20 seconds.... How about zero winged aircraft.Small prop planes like the Cessna or AN-2 are not going to be able to traverse the map in 20 seconds, but they're fixed wing. They may have a slight speed advantage over some helicopters (although the AN-2 is slower than most modern helicopters) but there are very few places that they can land and even fewer to take off from, most of which are high traffic and generally dangerous locations.As for a C-130 or Boeing 747, the map is probably too small for them, I agree. But I don't see what's so bad about fixed wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColdAvoral 20 Posted July 30, 2014 Myself, I would love to see some IMZ-Ural or Dnepr Motorcycles, Denpr shut down a while ago AFAIK but IMZ-Ural are still going strong. Motorcycles seem like a smart choice, given the fuel economy compared to cars, along with the size. I'm biased however, as a fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilgrim* 3514 Posted July 30, 2014 M1A2 Abrams ?? M1A2 !!! Abrams ???? Abrams ???? M1A2 !!! wha ? M1A2 Abrams ?? M1A2 !!! wha ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mixmastajingles 31 Posted July 30, 2014 TOO MANY MILITARY VEHICLES. GOT ITYou started it. I just want a Jeep. Steps to Jeep it like a bauwse.1. Cruise coastline getting 13/mpg2. Pick up hot chicks on coast3. Bang hot chicks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stielhandgranate 480 Posted July 30, 2014 Main battle tanks? Attack Helicopters? The only military vehicle I see working is the MRAP. This isn't wasteland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crazzekiff 93 Posted July 30, 2014 OP should try Arma 3. He obviously wants pewpewpew simulator with military. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dominykaskinderis 6 Posted July 30, 2014 Honestly, there should only be 6 or so civilian vehicles.Going with the "alternate brand name" schtick, For Civilian vehicles, I'd want: BicycleMopedJetski "Chetsy"Small BoatPickup: "Fjord Z150 Truck"SUV: "Hand-Over" as this lad over here has said, i agree with him that only a couple of vehicles should be added to the game. this is because its ment to be a zombie game and vehicles should be rare. if we have all the vehicles the poster of this topic has said, it would be more like a racing game because you could pick the cars that you want because there would be so many, you are ment to get happy when you see any working vehicle and look after it and if there were that many, people wouldnt look after the vehicles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigor Mortis (DayZ) 141 Posted July 30, 2014 Small prop planes like the Cessna or AN-2 are not going to be able to traverse the map in 20 seconds, but they're fixed wing. They may have a slight speed advantage over some helicopters (although the AN-2 is slower than most modern helicopters) but there are very few places that they can land and even fewer to take off from, most of which are high traffic and generally dangerous locations.As for a C-130 or Boeing 747, the map is probably too small for them, I agree. But I don't see what's so bad about fixed wings.I agree that my exaggeration of 20 seconds is crazy, but it's still ridiculous to have winged aircraft designed to travel hundreds if not thousands of miles in an area of only 225 km^2, or 15 km on each side. So, what do you do when you reach the edge of the world in your 100+mph travelling airborne vehicle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 30, 2014 I agree that my exaggeration of 20 seconds is crazy, but it's still ridiculous to have winged aircraft designed to travel hundreds if not thousands of miles in an area of only 225 km^2, or 15 km on each side. So, what do you do when you reach the edge of the world in your 100+mph travelling airborne vehicle?Well, obviously a bigger map would be better for large scale aircraft, but the whole point of smaller planes would be that they can be useful, but you have to make some careful decisions because they don't have a lot of room to operate in.I'm not saying let's add F-16s or C-130s or B-52s or Boeing 757s, but do you really think a small piper aircraft is going to be detrimental to gameplay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pale1776 375 Posted July 30, 2014 as this lad over here has said, i agree with him that only a couple of vehicles should be added to the game. this is because its ment to be a zombie game and vehicles should be rare. if we have all the vehicles the poster of this topic has said, it would be more like a racing game because you could pick the cars that you want because there would be so many, you are ment to get happy when you see any working vehicle and look after it and if there were that many, people wouldnt look after the vehiclesI want a METRIC SHIT TON of vehicles. Along the roads, piled up at road blocks, checkpoints... BUT I want only a few to run, like about the number in Vanilla DayZ. Others, I want to be in shitty condition, so it would take a ton of time to repair them, like Vanilla DayZ. And a few scrap metal cars. I would also like to sit in those rusty vans. Imagine finding one 200 meters off a dirt road, lighting a fire at the door, listening to the world... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dominykaskinderis 6 Posted July 31, 2014 Well, obviously a bigger map would be better for large scale aircraft, but the whole point of smaller planes would be that they can be useful, but you have to make some careful decisions because they don't have a lot of room to operate in.I'm not saying let's add F-16s or C-130s or B-52s or Boeing 757s, but do you really think a small piper aircraft is going to be detrimental to gameplay?a small helicopter would be nice, but would have to make sure its rare as you can travel fast around the map Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 31, 2014 a small helicopter would be nice, but would have to make sure its rare as you can travel fast around the mapWell I mean, obviously there should only be a few helicopters around. Making vehicles "rare" is different in the sense that you don't have to search as hard to find them versus regular loot. What should be done is making all of the necessary parts rare, making helicopter maintenance and fueling difficult, and finally making piloting the helicopter or utilizing many of its features difficult (as in Take On Helicopters, which the DayZ engine is mainly built on)I personally wouldn't be opposed to a few large transport helicopters like an Mi-17 or Mi-8, or maybe an S-64 Skycrane for lifting, as the game's top tier helicopter aircraft (I'm not particularly fond of having gunships or attack helicopters, though), but requiring more maintenance. Otherwise, a few small helicopters that could be armed with GPMGs (like the PKM, M249, or M240) would be fine, as long as proper shooting mechanics were induced. I mean, people are quick to jump on the; "armed vehicles ruin the game!" train because the mod's vehicles that were armed were built for military combat rather than difficult survival, but if they were properly introduced then actually getting in a Huey and flying down the coast unloading on freshspawns would not be a simple task (nor efficient one). That being said, it could be a great advantage to those who were willing to put time in maintaining and learning their tools. Anyway, by "piper aircraft" I was implying small planes, like Cessnas. We weren't debating over helicopters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted July 31, 2014 The only armed "military" vehicles that I'd like to see implemented should be unarmed to start. In other words, you have to go out and find that M2HB for your HMMWV. You've got to go out and find that .50 BMG ammo, box, and links. Same goes for door-mounted machine guns for helicopters, which I believe should be the limit of weaponry for aircraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigor Mortis (DayZ) 141 Posted July 31, 2014 Well, obviously a bigger map would be better for large scale aircraft, but the whole point of smaller planes would be that they can be useful, but you have to make some careful decisions because they don't have a lot of room to operate in.I'm not saying let's add F-16s or C-130s or B-52s or Boeing 757s, but do you really think a small piper aircraft is going to be detrimental to gameplay?I guess I'm not completely against the idea, I just see it creating more problems than I think it would be worth. If they do put them in, I really hope they make it hard as hell to land them in random locations (roads, fields, etc). I'd love to see a bunch of people trying to get an aircraft running, then crash and burn on the first landing :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaingunfighter 917 Posted July 31, 2014 The only armed "military" vehicles that I'd like to see implemented should be unarmed to start. In other words, you have to go out and find that M2HB for your HMMWV. You've got to go out and find that .50 BMG ammo, box, and links. Same goes for door-mounted machine guns for helicopters, which I believe should be the limit of weaponry for aircraft.That seems fair enough. What I'd really like are civilian pickup trucks and machine guns like the PKM or DShK that you can mount on said pickups. Hell, they even existed in ArmA 2 so some of the trucks could have NAPA or CHzDK or even CDF insignias on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d.walker43 196 Posted July 31, 2014 SUGGEST OTHER VEHICLES FOR MORE IDEAS!!!Mostly great ideas. Only have 2 things to say.1: We don't need nearly that many military vehicles. Those should be rare, and only more common things such as Humvee's, trucks, etc. We don't need tanks and BTR's in-game. You wouldn't find any of those laying around in real zombie apocalypse.2: I think there should be several different types of ATV's. 4 wheelers, 3 wheelers, off-road bikes, etc. All I saw on the list was standard 4 wheeler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a_ruttle 199 Posted July 31, 2014 The most 'armed' a vehicle should get is a Pickup truck with a PKM bolted on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pvt_Larry (DayZ) 98 Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Shopping cart, and a passenger can fire a makarov? Seriously though, I'd go for the shopping cart, since I play Dayz as a homeless nomad, I might as well look the part. Edited July 31, 2014 by Pvt_Larry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted August 1, 2014 That seems fair enough. Yeah, I mean a very under-mentioned issue with helicopters in the mod was that their ammunition respawned on server restart. That, and they came with machine guns as standard, loaded, with zero maintenance requirements or chance of being damaged/less effective/inoperable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rybec 339 Posted August 1, 2014 Even better than mounted guns would be enabling small arms use while riding. That way we're not even worried about mounted guns at all anymore.Don't even say "engine limitations!", that shouldn't be an excuse when making a standalone game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nario (DayZ) 2 Posted August 2, 2014 Honestly, there should only be 6 or so civilian vehicles.Going with the "alternate brand name" schtick, For Civilian vehicles, I'd want: BicycleMopedJetski "Chetsy"Small BoatPickup: "Fjord Z150 Truck"SUV: "Hand-Over"To add to that Roller-skatesScooterSkateboard Think about a guy in his briefs with nothing but a clown mask and axe roller-skating towards you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Calvin Candie 189 Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) Pick-up would be nice. you could store stuff in the back and mount your tent on the cargo area. Edited August 2, 2014 by Calvin Candie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites