Soooo about Hardcore

[cejota14 130]

I play because I have to wait like 500 seconds to join another regular server after the dsync kick me out. But yeah, is pretty badass...I usually play on first person on Regular too, but it fucks with my FPS...so I use 3rd for improvement on that aspect

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Lol absolutely none of that is true. Nice strawman.

 

Nice informative reply.

 

How is none of that true? That's imply false "I'm not buying some gadget just to have a human feature in the game" well, that's true my friend I'm not going to.

 

And if people sitting in a window in real life don't stand out to you in broad daylight, you should get your eyes tested.

 

 

And you can't hear footsteps from realistically far away that is completely true if someone wearing like 50 pounds of gear who has hiking boots runs down a street 20m away you should be able to hear them stomping about but you can't unless they're in the same house as you or within handcuff distance.

 

I would just take third person view as a semi realistic representation of how you could understand your surroundings with your senses, it's still bullshit granted but IRL you wouldn't have to look round walls to see if people were running around nearby you'd hear them moving and you'd hear them talking to their partners.

 

What would be really cool at least in hardcore is if you could sit down and focus your senses, basically just hearing so that you could hear people moving or talking nearby. Sort of like in The Last Of Us but less informative and not looking through walls.

 

 

Hardcore is still not any more realistic anyway, not that it can't be more of a thrill.

[born2thrill (DayZ) 1]

I'm not saying I set it up correctly, just that it felt weird.

 

Anyway I can't get one for 30 AUD, that I am sure of, not in Czech republic anyway.

The stuff that's imported from US is often almost 50% more expensives due to taxes.

 

And not sure what you mean by building one? Something MacGyver style?

 

http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/142001-free-alternative-to-track-ir-a-guide/

[St. Jimmy 1631]

And if people sitting in a window in real life don't stand out to you in broad daylight, you should get your eyes tested.

I agree that sounds should be improved but this doesn't sound right to me. If you don't really focus on windows it's hard to see people. I don't see how anyone could stand out from there. Edited May 6, 2014 by St. Jimmy

[born2thrill (DayZ) 1]

The only way you are going to have peripheral vision in fps games is to fork out 24k for 1 of these, i plan on getting one after ive payed off my mortgage lol

 

http://3xs.scan.co.uk/configurator/vrx-imotion-multi-screen-full-motion-simulator

Edited May 6, 2014 by born2thrill

[agentneo 337]

hardcore is good . Empty night time servers mean no kill on sight. :D

Edited May 6, 2014 by AgentNe0

[stryker007 39]

This game is constantly blowing the realism trumpet... 3pp really needs to be gone on all servers!

[hombrecz 832]

This game is constantly blowing the realism trumpet... 3pp really needs to be gone on all servers!

 

Nah, they went the authenticity over realism way, so sorry, 3rd person will most likely stay.

Anyway was playing on 1st person servers recently and I always could find some with good ammount of people (so over 2/3 of max capacity), so I really can't see what the problem is?

 

You don't like 3rd person, you don't play it.

[cels 43]

Nah, they went the authenticity over realism way, so sorry, 3rd person will most likely stay.

Anyway was playing on 1st person servers recently and I always could find some with good ammount of people (so over 2/3 of max capacity), so I really can't see what the problem is?

 

You don't like 3rd person, you don't play it.

Pretty much.. Brian Hicks recently said 3rd person isnt going anywhere and I believe Dean even said they have some fixes coming to 3rd person down the line.

I play both.. and like you said if people dont enjoy it, dont play it.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

I agree that sounds should be improved but this doesn't sound right to me. If you don't really focus on windows it's hard to see people. I don't see how anyone could stand out from there.

 

In that case I guess it would be difficult with the shade but it's more the bland colours everything has nothing really stands out but movement, in real life you should be able to notice a scope or gun barrel poking out even though your eyes don't zoom in. There's no kind of realistic detail to the players or the terrain so hardcore mode/first person view isn't any more realistic or authentic really.

 

More of a challenge doesn't make it realistic.

[soulfirez 901]

In that case I guess it would be difficult with the shade but it's more the bland colours everything has nothing really stands out but movement, in real life you should be able to notice a scope or gun barrel poking out even though your eyes don't zoom in. There's no kind of realistic detail to the players or the terrain so hardcore mode/first person view isn't any more realistic or authentic really.

 

More of a challenge doesn't make it realistic.

Is 1pp realistic not overly so as no one has produced a game (or a screen for that matter) that allows naturaul viewing as our eyes would see..

 

But is it more realistic damn right it is can you in real life see over an 8 foot wall without climbing it ?nope, can you in real life see behind you without turning around? nope can you see your ass while walking?nope, can you see through a door way without walking through or looking around it with your head inside ?nope. But you can in 3pp so these are extremely unrealistic features so spare me the bull shit....

 

Could they do things to make 1pp more realistic yeah and perhaps they will (like audio) it is still early alpha. But i have to ask stop pissing down peoples backs and telling them its raining.

 

As note i am not against 3pp if thats how you like to play by all means enjoy playing it that way but when you speak bull you get told your speaking bull.

[BeefBacon 1185]

 

It's different because you have no peripheral vision, 

 

No different to any other game. 3pp only provides peripheral vision a meter or two to your left and right. If you compare 1pp and 3pp you'll notice the only difference is that in 3pp you can see your back - there's no change in FOV.

 

You get used to 1pp. It's much more rewarding in my opinion.

[UltimateGentleman 355]

Is 1pp realistic not overly so as no one has produced a game (or a screen for that matter) that allows naturaul viewing as our eyes would see..

 

But is it more realistic damn right it is can you in real life see over an 8 foot wall without climbing it ?nope, can you in real life see behind you without turning around? nope can you see your ass while walking?nope, can you see through a door way without walking through or looking around it with your head inside ?nope. But you can in 3pp so these are extremely unrealistic features so spare me the bull shit....

 

Could they do things to make 1pp more realistic yeah and perhaps they will (like audio) it is still early alpha. But i have to ask stop pissing down peoples backs and telling them its raining.

 

As note i am not against 3pp if thats how you like to play by all means enjoy playing it that way but when you speak bull you get told your speaking bull.

 

 

Just as bullshit as the limited vision in first person, not just left and right up and down too TV screens just don't fit how a human sees the world.

Hardcore isn't any more realistic just because you can only play in first person one restriction doesn't make stabbing morphine in to your broken leg and fixing it any more legit it's still the same unrealistic game.

 

I can't look over and 8ft wall or round a door in real life but I can hear people moving around or hear them breathing, or I could look under the door.

Can I do that in hardcore?

No.

 

People are far too hard to see in first person because they so unrealistically blend in with bushes and other things the textures in this game make it way too difficult to discern whether or not somebody is standing in a freaking tree when obviously in real life the branches would part and clothes kind of stand out compared to leaves(ghillie suits are fine with this though)

 

So I like to be able to look over walls because the game is so unrealistically bullshit overall.

 

Plus it's nice being able to avoid groups of KoS bandits as a fresh spawn because all bugs aside they ruin the experience completely.

You can't see people who would stand out in real life so no first person is not more realistic, or realistic at all.

If it was you'd see your characters nose and most of their body, not just when you look down.

 

All first person is, literally, is looking through a different camera.

That it does not accurately convey how a human sees through their eyes makes it not at all realistic.

[Dagwood 680]

Colors don't stand out enough so I move my perspective a foot over my head to make the colors more vibrant? Wut??

If anything, 3rd person eliminates this color vibrancy problem you seem to be having because they won't be standing in your LOS on the bush or window anyway since they will be peaking around said cover without physically being in view.

I must say, a well constructed rebuttal, sir. Have my rotten kiwi.