irl-calibre 744 Posted April 21, 2014 The lore is irrelevant in this game. Anyone can be a bandit even some one in there damn underwear. He can wear whatever he pleases and still be a hero. Just because ppl dont play the way you want them to doesn't mean they have to abide by good or evil with certain clothing. whatever.. good luck all you heroes in da payday masks you rock!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deathlove 2286 Posted April 21, 2014 cause the lore says so, in the game for Years bandits wore masks - now in standalone everything is by choice, you can wear what ever you want, but there are thousands of people who have played this game for years who view payday masks negatively - even if you just think " they're cool" they are saying something more whether you like it or not..Well guess what? I guess its going to take ppl to change that now isnt it?whatever.. good luck all you heroes in da payday masks you rock!!I do fine but its you that should worry if you try and open fire on me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidsnake 275 Posted April 21, 2014 Never ever trust a person that does not communicate. * If players like this don't communicate then kill them, because they generally don't talk / type for a good reason. Be very cautious of players that only type, it might mean they don't want to talk. Thus it could a "squeaker", always "kill on sight" squeakers. * But try to give players that type a chance, but keep an eye on his actions. I don't have a mic, so i type. What troubles me is that I litterally never get a response. I have yet to talk with a player rather than talk to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 21, 2014 whatever.. good luck all you heroes in da payday masks you rock!! Your damn right we do! Good day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 21, 2014 I don't have a mic, so i type. What troubles me is that I litterally never get a response. I have yet to talk with a player rather than talk to them. As long as they make some sort of effort at communication then i will be fine. But if you see someone in a firehouse pick up thier fire axe after typing "hey there." Then we gots a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidsnake 275 Posted April 21, 2014 As long as they make some sort of effort at communication then i will be fine. But if you see someone in a firehouse pick up thier fire axe after typing "hey there." Then we gots a problem.I seriously think something's wrong with the communication system. Even when I give players weapons, I can't even get a thank you out of them. The best communication I've ever had was a guy flipping me off when I held him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 21, 2014 I seriously think something's wrong with the communication system. Even when I give players weapons, I can't even get a thank you out of them. The best communication I've ever had was a guy flipping me off when I held him up. Lol i actually met a guy who knew how to do that before he knew how to type xD. Anyway i just let them know to press "/" then i act depending on thier response. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidsnake 275 Posted April 21, 2014 Lol i actually met a guy who knew how to do that before he knew how to type xD. Anyway i just let them know to press "/" then i act depending on thier response.I suppose I should try that myself. I always assumed everyone knew about side chat, but apparently non-Arma/mod players don't even have a clue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) I suppose I should try that myself. I always assumed everyone knew about side chat, but apparently non-Arma/mod players don't even have a clue. Yeah when i first started i actually kept expanding this group of people i just met with more people after telling them how to type. Looking back it felt pretty awesome running with like eight guys who all happened to be new. I don't really remember how we all died. Some of us ended up breaking off in search of loot and im pretty sure i caught a bullet or two a little afterwards. Anyway it was a good time. Edited April 21, 2014 by Murlough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Powell (DayZ) 734 Posted April 21, 2014 I wear smart camo that isn't military basically all green. I don't wear an M4 either, thats asking for trouble. No helmets or masks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mancomb 131 Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Here's a little story about an experience I had that just goes to show that it really doesn't matter what someone is wearing (in fact, if they're wearing hardly anything, they're probably a decoy): I started out near the shipwreck, so I decided to explore it to see what I could find. After doing so, I managed to find a blue checked shirt, a blue cabbie hat a blue backpack, some food and a wood-splitting axe. At that point, I decided I would just roam around and see who I could find, thinking that, if I didn't have a gun, I wouldn't be such a prime KoS target. I traveled for a bit, until I came across the smaller Northeastern airstrip; since I had run into other people almost every time I explored this area (or any other airfield, for that matter), I decided to take position a little ways away in the bushes and scope the area out to see if there was anyone there. After only about 10 seconds, I saw 2 people run towards the jailhouse building. A few seconds later, I saw them and a third person exploring the control tower. I could see that one of them only had a melee weapon as I did, and wasn't wearing any clothes (besides the default undergarments). At that point, I figured it was probably a group of friends that were just roaming as a pack to avoid being KoSed, and that they were probably relatively harmless. So I decided to approach the airstrip (cautiously, of course). As I did, the one with no clothes came around the corner of the jailhouse building and apparently saw me approaching, so I waved and said hello. He returned my gesture, so I figured all was well. I approached him and struck up a conversation. I saw that he had nothing except a UN helmet and a baseball bat (most of the people I've encountered wearing UN gear were helpful, so I assumed the same of him). He said they were just roaming around looking for stuff, and I said I was basically doing the same. As I was talking to him, I turned the camera to see one of his friends behind me with a rifle on his back and a fire axe in his hands, apparently at the ready, like he was about to attack me. So I turned and said hello to him as well, as as I did, he started strafing around me in a circle. This seemed suspicious to me, so I turned with him so that I kept facing him. He then put his axe away, so I figured I was out of danger. I was apparently wrong, because, as I continued the conversation, the nearly-naked one put up his fists and punched me in the head, knocking me unconscious. When I came to, all of my gear was gone (including my clothes), having been replaced with the UN helmet and the baseball bat that the first guy had. To make things worse, I was bleeding. Since I didn't even have a shirt to tear into rags, I decided to head into the jailhouse to see if I could find any rags or bandages. As I rounded the corner of the hallway, I came upon another person (I'm assuming the 3rd one in the party), who instantly drew his pistol and killed me on sight. Edited April 21, 2014 by Mancomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qww 287 Posted April 21, 2014 every aspect of the situation woudl affect how i interact with another player, or if i interact at all. of course how they are equiped would be one aspect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Milk 195 Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Never ever trust a person that does not communicate.* If players like this don't communicate then kill them, because they generally don't talk / type for a good reason. Be very cautious of players that only type, it might mean they don't want to talk. Thus it could a "squeaker", always "kill on sight" squeakers.* But try to give players that type a chance, but keep an eye on his actions. So you discriminate people based on real life characteristics???I wear a bandana, beige wool coat, chest holster, and hunter pants. I don't carry m4's, don't like them. Edited April 21, 2014 by Space Milk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Since the majority of my player encounters take place at either 200m or more, or, end up with me just getting shot without knowing where from... no, clothing doesn't really matter to me. As an aside, can anyone actually cite an instance where one has been spotted when one is using a "white" character? I always see folks running "black" characters as if they are somehow more difficult to see. For my account, it makes zero difference. I've never said to myself, "Oh yes! Found him! If only he'd've had a "black" character!" I used to run a boonie based on the fact that it was supposedly harder to see versus a MICH helmet. Which I'm marginally sure is bullshit. To the above, who negatively regards players who don't use voice, I don't use voice (EDIT - Sorry, my retard sentence structure got the best of me). I don't want to listen to the majority of people's voices. More than willing to interact with you via text, more than willing to NOT shoot you in the head. Blame DayZ mod with its unfettered sidechat. Edited April 21, 2014 by Katana67 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qww 287 Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) i think it does make a difference, thats why id like to see face paint in game, if you are in middle of woods, scanning an area and theres a military spec character prone, facing you, mayeb they are just 100 or less m away. and you are also prone, with low visibility cause of grass or bushes. a white face will stand out more to me, ecpecially if i dont know exactly where im trying to look for the player. camoflage works, i think a character stands out more in a game than in real life, i still think camo in game is extremely useful,also a helmet reflects sunlight light a bit i think, same as a does a fireaxe even when painted green . where as a boonie of course wont and the camo pattern on it is good too Edited April 21, 2014 by qww Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Space Milk 195 Posted April 21, 2014 To the above, who negatively regards players who don't type, I don't type. I don't want to listen to the majority of people's voices. More than willing to interact with you via text, more than willing to NOT shoot you in the head. Blame DayZ mod with its unfettered sidechat.I never negatively regard players who don't type. I asked one person if he discriminates based on age, because all squeakers, tslking or not, and all people not talking are squeakers, are kos, which I thought was immature. I don't type, but that doesn't mean I am not going to kill unarmed freshspawn because they type. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katana67 2907 Posted April 21, 2014 I never negatively regard players who don't type. I asked one person if he discriminates based on age, because all squeakers, tslking or not, and all people not talking are squeakers, are kos, which I thought was immature. I don't type, but that doesn't mean I am not going to kill unarmed freshspawn because they type. Sorry, I wrecked my own sentence structure with that one either way. Fair enough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sobieski12 835 Posted April 21, 2014 I never negatively regard players who don't type. I asked one person if he discriminates based on age, because all squeakers, tslking or not, and all people not talking are squeakers, are kos, which I thought was immature. I don't type, but that doesn't mean I am not going to kill unarmed freshspawn because they type. If you have no problem trusting children in DayZ that is your opinion. I've done plenty of tests back in the mod and standalone to know the signs of who is trying to survive and to those that just want instant action. * Squakers / Children have no patience and are only looking for instant action. Thus hearing someone talk is quite important for me in weather or not I should trust someone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sobieski12 835 Posted April 21, 2014 If I'm a fresh spawn and you have something I want, I'll go for the kill, regardless. Everyone is a bandit in SA, it's ridiculous and I won't waste any more energy trying to help people other than the odd survivor. Once I even told some guy with broken legs I'd help him and searched for some splints/morphine. I came back to tell him I found a rope and I only needed sticks and he just attacked me... I have genuinely lost faith in the SA community. I remember that there was this hero vs bandit thing going on in a lot of the mod servers, but that's nowhere to be found in SA.Sometimes I avoid players, most of the times I run into players without the option to avoid I hold them up (or kill them if they have a gun drawn and pointed at me). I have given my victims gear and I have taken gear from them, it all depends on my mood I guess. Clothing doesn't make much of a difference to me, unless the guy's wearing a mask/gasmask or if he's fully geared with a helmet. Without a helmet is okay, but fully geared with helmet just rubs me the wrong way and makes me trigger happy. Not sure why. Btw "The End" Here is the vid I promised. Have some faith and don't always "Kill on Sight". ;) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidsnake 275 Posted April 22, 2014 Btw "The End" Here is the vid I promised. Have some faith and don't always "Kill on Sight". ;)Thanks for that. Maybe someday I'll have a similar experience. I know I would've assumed the other guy was his buddy and looking to kill me as soon as I'd see him peeking into the house. I guess I'm a bit too careful, because I would've missed all this friendliness. I'll try being less intimidated by every fool with a gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irl-calibre 744 Posted April 22, 2014 Well guess what? I guess its going to take ppl to change that now isnt it?I do fine but its you that should worry if you try and open fire on me. why should people change? it's set in this game - masks, like the toothbrush moustache are not a signifier of "goodness" in the world, don't like it? tough shit - you're not going to change the attitude, I have no doubt there are thousands of people who will kill you on sight in this game for wearing a mask, that's just the way it is, but you rock it if you want and be a hero, just stop fucking crying when you're kos'd. cause you were mistaken for a bandit. The discerning heroic person in Dayz does not cover their faces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) why should people change? it's set in this game - masks, like the toothbrush moustache are not a signifier of "goodness" in the world, don't like it? tough shit - you're not going to change the attitude, I have no doubt there are thousands of people who will kill you on sight in this game for wearing a mask, that's just the way it is, but you rock it if you want and be a hero, just stop fucking crying when you're kos'd. cause you were mistaken for a bandit. The discerning heroic person in Dayz does not cover their faces. Ohmygawd, seriously your point is silly. People will kill you if you have nothing. People will kill you simply because they want to kill you! The mask will NOT make a difference. Btw No one is crying in this whole thread (this is at least the second time ive said that). Andthis heroic person can do or where whatever the fuck they want. Edited April 22, 2014 by Murlough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeChat 131 Posted April 22, 2014 I'll admit - I always assume that people in camouflage (and this is rather hypocritical of me, since I've resorted to wearing only camouflage on HC servers and I don't KOS) or people wearing for instance all black and/or wearing gasmasks/payday masks, are people who KOS. That's just my assumption, I don't base my actions on assumptions though, except that I tend to stay away from those type of people. Same goes for people with no pants and raincoats and/or helmets of various kinds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murlough 192 Posted April 22, 2014 I'll admit - I always assume that people in camouflage (and this is rather hypocritical of me, since I've resorted to wearing only camouflage on HC servers and I don't KOS) or people wearing for instance all black and/or wearing gasmasks/payday masks, are people who KOS. That's just my assumption, I don't base my actions on assumptions though, except that I tend to stay away from those type of people. Same goes for people with no pants and raincoats and/or helmets of various kinds. I just hope people will become more open minded when i comes to how players dress. Maybe ill only walk around with a pistol that people won't instanly assume im gonna kill em. Also in my experience if someone is walkong around with nothing on i usually watch them from a distance. They are usually pretty funny and random. Just dont get in there sight or theyll shoot ya dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irl-calibre 744 Posted April 22, 2014 Ohmygawd, seriously your point is silly. People will kill you if you have nothing. People will kill you simply because they want to kill you! The mask will NOT make a difference. Btw No one is crying in this whole thread (this is at least the second time ive said that). Andthis heroic person can do or where whatever the fuck they want. that is your miscomprehension yes "some" people will just kill everything, but there are thousands who will kill clown masks specifically, because they are bandit masks & who wouldn't have killed you otherwise. if you can't grasp this then you don't really know much about the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites