It´s time to retire for DayZ

[chris90 54]

Hello Guys.

 

i enjoyed DayZ a lot, almost 400h playtime. 

 

The Genre "Hardcore-Survival" is a great idea and DayZ did a good job showing this to other people.

But i think DayZ is not the way to go, it cant realize all the potential of this Genre.

 

The main reason for this is obviously the engine. When they said they are working on an own engine i thought yeah thats great. But its almost the same engine like Arma 2 and Arma 3. Lets be honest here, this engine cant handle "MMO´s".

 

All this 3 Games have the same issues.

for example: 

1. go Third-Person and pick a weapon, now you can look throw walls by using Q and E.

2. Fists up, look at the ground and walk into a building. Now use "alt" to look throw the wall.

3. Running constantly against a wall leads to desync between client and server. Your character-position for the server is 5 meter behind the wall, yours is in front of the wall.

4. Desync is a huge issue in general. You never know where the hitbox of someone is and shots are so crazy delayed that you and your enemy kill each other most of the time.

5. Hacker all over the Servers.

 

They wanna go beta at the end of the year and the beta lasts for another year. So the game should be "finished" early 2016.

That takes to much time and in my opinion it is not worth working on the game for so long because it uses this clunky engine.

 

DayZ did some mistakes:

- still no cars, okay thats maybe a bad example. But not even a bike yet ? come on.

- the spawn points. Balota -> Electro -> Berezino .. what is next ? not a smart move IMO.

- suicide to get better spawns was one of the biggest problems.

- in some ways you guys made it way to realistic. dont forget that this is a game. Dont trade gameplay for realism, bad choice.

- you guys adding so much stuff but don't fix things that makes it unplayable. 

 

Yeah DayZ is still Alpha and Alpha is the stage to throw stuff in. Thats how it was 10 years ago.

Maybe you should rethink your view of alpha stage if you want people to play your game.

And yes. Its still Alpha -> thats the Problem. It just takes to long.

 

Games like H1Z1 will outshine DayZ. 

 

Bohemia Interactive should try to get rid of this clunky engine.

You will never be able to handle MMO or FPS with this.

 

So Thanks again to DayZ for showing how awesome this Genre is. I had a lot of fun.

But i dont see the point to continue the work on DayZ in consideration of the competition.

Safe your time, Safe your money.

 

 

 

 

[PastorPounder 73]

You made a post about this why? If you are going to go.. then go.

[St. Jimmy 1631]

Your reasons seems like that I won't miss you. So goodbye!

[Frothyboot18 46]

Hahaha i dont wanna throw the alpha card, but its an alpha... Peoples expectations are too high... Its not a full game yet... Hell beta of bf4 was clunky as crap... Then when that game came out, it was still clunky.... I want hackers to try hacking the game now.... So that they can be better dealt with before game release... Think of battle eye as an immune system... For it to know how to fight a cold or flu, it has to get the flu first and overcome it :)

[res 373]

Stop licking DayZ's *****.

 

Yes, it's a great game and fun while it lasts, but some things will never be fixed just because of the engine.

 

Face it, it's shit. They would be off better using the Arma 3 engine. All I see on these forums is people defending the game like if Dean Hall paid their entire family's dinner, since it was lauched. 

 

It's fun, I know, I've playing for nearly 200 hours, but it's glitchy, unrealistic and exploitable fun. And some of that stuff will never be fixed because of the engine, you're all doomed.

 

You will always be able to see through walls, and some of the other game breaking glitches.

 

After the eating and getting a gun, right now, DayZ is just a generic shooter with more choice, movement freedom, and long walks.

 

And that is not just because of the engine, it's also because of how people think when playing, adding more content will do nothing about it. 

[Disgraced 1123]

Your observations about the engine and the similarity in particular between the mod and standalone dayz (I believe they are really the same thing with a few different code blocks for the reason you enumerate), will be met by derision here because these are the true believers.

But they are right. It's better to go if you feel this way.

[joe_mcentire 2074]

DayZ did some mistakes:

- still no cars, okay thats maybe a bad example. But not even a bike yet ? come on.

really?!

 

now i know why soe presented their game with "hej, we have 1000 players, fire and cars!"

 

edit: the wall exploit is indeed a thing that needs to addressed asap :/

Edited April 12, 2014 by joe_mcentire

[nimmerzz 17]

I cant wait until the other games come out and people start to complain about their short comings. DayZ has some issues, sure. But wait until the finished product before you pass final judgement. 

 

People like the OP who put that much time into this then get burned out are whats at fault. Youre playing something not ready for prime and expecting it to be everything for you. We're supposed to be testing it, and any fun being had is just a bonus. 

 

H1Z1 reminds me of house of the dead. It looks way to arcady for me, so far. Then again, it's not done yet... So i'll wait to pass judgement. I hope H1Z1 or other games take away the fast twitch kiddies who want to use their allowance to buy shirts. And leaves DayZ with the core that enjoys the game for what it was worth. The mod was buggy, glitchy, etc. But millions played and loved it. So this is all a step up. 

[gorvi 189]

Hahaha i dont wanna throw the alpha card, but its an alpha... Peoples expectations are too high... Its not a full game yet... Hell beta of bf4 was clunky as crap... Then when that game came out, it was still clunky.... I want hackers to try hacking the game now.... So that they can be better dealt with before game release... Think of battle eye as an immune system... For it to know how to fight a cold or flu, it has to get the flu first and overcome it :)

 

The alpha card is a regulation card.  Who cares if people complain its OP..

[Etherious 907]

Hello Guys.

 

i enjoyed DayZ a lot, almost 400h playtime. 

 

The Genre "Hardcore-Survival" is a great idea and DayZ did a good job showing this to other people.

But i think DayZ is not the way to go, it cant realize all the potential of this Genre.

 

The main reason for this is obviously the engine. When they said they are working on an own engine i thought yeah thats great. But its almost the same engine like Arma 2 and Arma 3. Lets be honest here, this engine cant handle "MMO´s".

 

All this 3 Games have the same issues.

for example: 

1. go Third-Person and pick a weapon, now you can look throw walls by using Q and E.

2. Fists up, look at the ground and walk into a building. Now use "alt" to look throw the wall.

3. Running constantly against a wall leads to desync between client and server. Your character-position for the server is 5 meter behind the wall, yours is in front of the wall.

4. Desync is a huge issue in general. You never know where the hitbox of someone is and shots are so crazy delayed that you and your enemy kill each other most of the time.

5. Hacker all over the Servers.

 

They wanna go beta at the end of the year and the beta lasts for another year. So the game should be "finished" early 2016.

That takes to much time and in my opinion it is not worth working on the game for so long because it uses this clunky engine.

 

DayZ did some mistakes:

- still no cars, okay thats maybe a bad example. But not even a bike yet ? come on.

- the spawn points. Balota -> Electro -> Berezino .. what is next ? not a smart move IMO.

- suicide to get better spawns was one of the biggest problems.

- in some ways you guys made it way to realistic. dont forget that this is a game. Dont trade gameplay for realism, bad choice.

- you guys adding so much stuff but don't fix things that makes it unplayable. 

 

Yeah DayZ is still Alpha and Alpha is the stage to throw stuff in. Thats how it was 10 years ago.

Maybe you should rethink your view of alpha stage if you want people to play your game.

And yes. Its still Alpha -> thats the Problem. It just takes to long.

 

Games like H1Z1 will outshine DayZ. 

 

Bohemia Interactive should try to get rid of this clunky engine.

You will never be able to handle MMO or FPS with this.

 

So Thanks again to DayZ for showing how awesome this Genre is. I had a lot of fun.

But i dont see the point to continue the work on DayZ in consideration of the competition.

Safe your time, Safe your money.

1. Try Hardcore then?

2. Will get fixed eventually.

3. Same as 2.

4. Desync is something due to cilent and server connections not due to the game (Although the engine does act weird sometimes).

5. Cheaters will eventually get banned, it's just that right now BattleEye has been busy updating their database for new releasing cheats.

6. OF COURSE the car thing.....well if you knew anything bout' game development you wouldn't even had typed that horrid statement.

7. Spawn point changes will always happen, they're experimenting. Just because you have to walk now to your favorite military decked out place doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

8. And? You cannot stop people from suiciding to get a better spawn.

9. Sorry but this game came about from ArmA so it's going to be alot of realism stop complaining because you can't have Perks, Burn cards, or Easy Kiddy Mode.

10. Once again you don't know alot about these stages, the team is split into multiple groups so while one of them is fixing stuff another is adding stuff to actually bring content to the game instead of letting it hang.

 

Seriously all I got from this is the usual imprudent rants from people who buy this game like it's some fully released, easy fixing CoD or Battlefield. It's a fucking Early Access game for crying out loud. Go play your Powerpuff girls (2014) and wait til 2015/2016 to come back.

Edited April 12, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet

[gorvi 189]

1. Try Hardcore then?

2. Will get fixed eventually.

3. Same as 2.

4. Desync is something due to cilent and server connections not due to the game.

5. Cheaters will eventually get banned, it's just that right now BattleEye has been busy updating their database for new releasing cheats.

6. OF COURSE the car thing.....well if you knew anything bout' game development you wouldn't even had typed that horrid statement.

7. Spawn point changes will always happen, there experimenting. Just because you have to walk now to your favorite military decked out place doesn't mean it's the end of the world.

8. And? You cannot people from suiciding to get a better spawn.

9. Sorry but this game came about from ArmA so it's going to be alot of realism stop complaining because you can't have Perks, Burn cards, or Easy Kiddy Mode.

10. Once again you know nothing, the team is split into multiple groups so while one of them is fixing stuff another is adding stuff to actually bring content to the game instead of letting it hang.

 

Seriously all I got from this is the usual imprudent rants from people who buy this game like it's so fully released, easy fixing CoD or Battlefield. It's a fucking Early Access game for crying out loud. Go play your Powerpuff girls and wait til 2015/2016 to come back.

 

Hey.  I liked powerpuff girls...

 

[Etherious 907]

Oh BTW this game never stated huge "MMO" style anywhere, plus the ToH Engine can handle a lot of people at the same time. The max is 200 players.

Hey.  I liked powerpuff girls...

 

I do too, but I don't like the new revised one. :3

Edited April 12, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

The next person to smash the ArmA engine is going to receive a full fledged essay on why the engine is the only engine really suited to this kind of game. Until then, I see all your reasons are flawed. And H1Z1 hasn't shown nearly enough to justify all this DayZ doomsday speak (same happened with WarZ, Rust, and Nether), and it'll turn out like those before it.

 

This community is really starting to annoy me.

[LeChat 131]

Oh BTW this game never stated "MMO" anywhere, plus the ToH Engine can handle a lot of people at the same time. The max is 200 players.

I do too, but I don't like the new revised one. :3

 

The official launch trailer begs to differ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0tQIxZUmWw 37 seconds in.

Edited April 12, 2014 by LeChat

[Etherious 907]

The next person to smash the ArmA engine is going to receive a full fledged essay on why the engine is the only engine really suited to this kind of game. Until then, I see all your reasons are flawed. And H1Z1 hasn't shown nearly enough to justify all this DayZ doomsday speak (same happened with WarZ, Rust, and Nether), and it'll turn out like those before it.

 

This community is really starting to annoy me.

Well, actually the community is great but all the *etards managed to flock in too.

[Cap'n (DayZ) 1827]

Well, actually the community is great but all the *etards managed to flock in too.

 

Yeah, but good ones are dime in the dozen. There are thousands of 12 post recent joined naysayers that flock every thread. I find it hard to find positive things any more...

[JonySK 60]

Oh BTW this game never stated "MMO" anywhere, plus the ToH Engine can handle a lot of people at the same time. The max is 200 players.

I do too, but I don't like the new revised one. :3

DAYZ is a gritty, authentic, open-world survival horror hybrid-MMO game, in which players follow a single goal: to survive in the harsh post-apocalyptic landscape as long as they can. Players can live through powerful events and emotions arising from the ever-evolving emergent gameplay.

 

A direct copy from http://dayzgame.com/buy#.U0l5-fl_tGQ. LOL

[Etherious 907]

The official launch trailer begs to differ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0tQIxZUmWw 37 seconds in.

Welp, oops on that one. I don't tend to watch trailers unless it's for Unreal or Halo that's it. In that case, well 200 players is the max that has been reached as far as I know of. OP won't be seeing 1000+ players on Chernarus anytime soon.

Edited April 12, 2014 by DJ SGTHornet

[gorvi 189]

The next person to smash the ArmA engine is going to receive a full fledged essay on why the engine is the only engine really suited to this kind of game. Until then, I see all your reasons are flawed. And H1Z1 hasn't shown nearly enough to justify all this DayZ doomsday speak (same happened with WarZ, Rust, and Nether), and it'll turn out like those before it.

 

This community is really starting to annoy me.

 

Because an engine funded the last 15 years through military contracts for real world simulation is going to get beaten by an engine for f2p games.

 

Some people...

[execpro22 128]

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Weve lost another poor soul to the dreaded alpha monster.......

[Etherious 907]

Because an engine funded the last 15 years through military contracts for real world simulation is going to get beaten by an engine for f2p games.

 

Some people...

Your talking about VBS, Bohemia's Real Reality engine was not made purely because of Military backing.

[ptk (DayZ) 178]

Well of course i "safe" my money, that's why it's in the bank :)

[Caboose187 (DayZ) 3036]

The official launch trailer begs to differ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0tQIxZUmWw 37 seconds in.

Ya but a lot of people see MMO and immediately assume thousands of players on one server which is not the case.  Hell CoD and BF are MMO's now

[Etherious 907]

Ya but a lot of people see MMO and immediately assume thousands of players on one server which is not the case.  Hell CoD and BF are MMO's now

Yea, it's funny too because I bet they havn't even touched real MMO either like TERA (My fav) or WOW...etc..

[Zedertone 378]

 

Games like H1Z1 will outshine DayZ. 

 

Is this a troll, or did you just escape from the the looney bin?

It's ashame people like you buy a game, see these issues and don't even wait until they're fixed but instead complain on the forums like it's going to help or something ? 

Edited April 12, 2014 by Zedertone